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Hello, and welcome back to Maximum Power, the Blake 7 podcast that's full of thieves, killers, mercenaries, and psychopaths.

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I'm Psy.

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I'm Cole.

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I'm Mark, and I'm feet.

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And which one of us got a close-up on which of those words?

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That's what I want to know, Mary?

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We'll take bets.

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So it's December the 21st, 1981.

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We've had 12 weeks of exciting adventures, a new format that's finally coming to its own, characters that we have grown to love, cherish.

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And now they're all going to be taken away from us because it's time for us to talk about Blake.

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We are one of 2 episodes, discussing Blake on maximum power because we decided that having a group of 9 of us on one episode would be far too much.

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So today you've got the UK version of maximum power, coming together to do their episode of Blake, and we hope that we draw different conclusions to the Australians and see it in a completely different way.

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But of course, we've got the advantage over them in that, although 3 of us have seen this episode many times, we have Mark, who has seen it for the very 1st time this week.

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So I think we're going to throw this over to Mark 1st to say, how did you find it?

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Yeah, so I watched it for the 1st time last night.

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I wanted my reaction to be as fresh as possible.

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I really, really enjoyed it.

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Obviously, the ending was pretty shocking.

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I don't think I was expecting that.

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I know obviously I've seen a lot of talk on social media over the years about the impact that the last episode had on people, especially kind of a formative age.

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And I suppose thinking about it since then.

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It is dystopian fiction, which always has an unhappy ending.

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So I don't know, you know, that I was, I should have been expecting anything differently.

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But yeah, the way it builds, seeing Gareth Thomas back as Blake is, is absolutely brilliant as well.

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I really, really enjoyed having him back.

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Maybe of, like to see him interact with the characters a bit more, but then you couldn't have, you couldn't, couldn't have played out the way that it did.

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And I suppose my only disappointment. is that Cervlon isn't in it, which, um, it'd be interesting to talk about what the kind of the, you know, the fan consensus or what the backstage reasons were for that.

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But I was fully expecting as the camera panned around that control room at the end.

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And there was Federation troops kind of coming in from every doorway for one of them to reveal Servland stepping in and kind of smiling triumphantly or something like that.

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So that was, That was something quite shocking, even on top of everything else that happened when the credits were all.

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I was like, oh, where's Avalance, a moment of triumph?

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Yeah, I think it is better without her.

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I think it works so much better without her because I think it would just, it would just be this camp moment of her walking in in a spectacular dress, sort of walking over all their bodies and just sort of laughing and turning away.

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And I think that would have wrecked it.

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I really do.

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I think the last 5 minutes of this episode is some of the best ever television on the BBC, the best ever.

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And I keep, I've been thinking, what, what shows that I've watched have better endings in terms of quality and not being like a mess, like, I don't know, some people think lost is a mess at the end.

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The expanse. galactica.

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I think so, but that's that's Swan Si is still working his way through.

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But I agree.

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I agree.

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That's another.

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But I agree, actually.

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But do you know that, like, I think it is so...

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Well done, the last 3 or so minutes, the editing, the lighting, the sound design, and I was thinking when I was watching this earlier, again, I should, I really want to stop watching this because I don't want it to ever degrade in my mind and get bored of it.

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But it didn't happen.

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I actually felt more moved this time, just that it is, I love bleak and dystopian endings.

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Of which Westgor has one, so spoiler alert there.

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But I think it's much better without her.

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It's much darker.

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It's much bleaker.

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It, it, it just, it leaves the ending more ambiguous.

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We're saying this, if you really are Colin, because we haven't seen you for a year.

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And suddenly we found you on this podcast episode.

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I'm the clone.

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Are you really a clone, of course. the clone of the clone full of blood.

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I'm full of blood.

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What does that what?

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That's what that's what Gareth Thomas says he has in his chest thing on the on the commentary.

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But we are getting ahead of ourselves so much.

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I wanted serve lad to pop up during the end credits, actually.

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That would have been great.

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Avon.

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Well, that's what I think.

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I think just a moment of her locking eyes with Avon and Avon realising that he's been beaten by her.

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And even maybe her picking up Aurak because that's ultimately all they've achieved is...

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Oh, that's why she is.

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The credits should have been Aurac just sitting in a forest going, fucking hell, where are they?

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There's just some crows nesting, you know, the most intelligent thing ever created in the universe.

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And he's going, I don't believe it.

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Um, yeah.

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I mean, as much as I would have loved to serve on there, I can see it would have been like terminal 2 this time, it's terminal.

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If if Servlan had just come back and it had been the same climax with a different ending.

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So yeah, I can see how they were trying to not to not just repeat last year because that was a perfect climax for a confrontation reserve land.

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So yeah, I could see why they went that way. we have rather got ahead of ourselves.

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We not just going to talk about the last 30 seconds.

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Well, sorry, what do you think of the last?

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It's absolutely perfect.

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You're quite right.

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I think the clue to this is the line that Villa says, where he says, sooner or later, we're going to drop into one of these holes in the ground and we're never coming out.

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And that's it.

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The Federation, getting the better of them without it being Servoland, without it being Travis, without it.

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It's just a 17 year old kid in charge of a federation platoon who finally defeats them.

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And it's so good that it's the faceless federation that we've seen in the way back doing the massacre in an underground bunker.

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Oh my god, I just thought of this.

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And then this is mirrored at the very end of the series with them in an underground bunker being massacred by...

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It's the only time.

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It's the only times in the series, the 1st episode on the last episode where they've shot straight.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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They finally.

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Yeah, they've learned how to do it.

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But yeah, or have they?

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Well, that's the good.

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That's a discussion for later.

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Yeah, just I think it's brutal and it's bleak and it's absolutely the way this show should finish.

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But anyway, the episode... with lots of rather funky music from old Dudley.

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Good form for the...

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It like he knows it's the last episode and he's giving it his all.

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It starts very much like terminal where the atmosphere is suddenly all slightly wrong.

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And so it starts in a very season 4 way with the with the wonderful model shot of Scorpio in the bunker coming up.

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And then as soon as it exits the rock, the whole thing blows up brilliantly and it just undercuts you all the way through this episode, which is what I know.

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And I think that's it.

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Yeah, and I think they're really, they're deliberately playing with that.

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This isn't Tracy fucking Island with that because, because there's a bit of that when it's taking off.

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It's very Thunderbird 2.

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It's takeoff everywhere, and we're going through the same bit again, and kids love that sort of thing.

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But this is Blake 7, so we're just going to blow the bloody place up.

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I think model work is very good in this.

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Very, very good.

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Yes.

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Sometime. we'll get on to other bits with the Scorpio, but like I just thought it was turning around and going up.

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I had, you know, I've not seen all of this season again recently.

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So I just sort of thought, yeah, that's really, really good.

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And I think compounded the death of, Hang on.

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Ziona, was that, was that the girl's name?

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Last week, yeah.

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It compounded the death of Zion because the reason they sent her back down was to try and salvage the base.

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But Avon's kind of such a tactical thinker.

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Surely he was already thinking, well, the base is compromised now because we don't know if Zukan told the Federation about it, and if not somebody else would.

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So, did they really need to send her down to her death?

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So I thought it was a thing that, um, that could have been picked up with Tarrant there as well.

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I mean, there's a little bit of that, isn't there, where Terrant is not comments about Zukan and the man who kills his own daughter and things like that.

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So the continuity, as you would expect from Chris Boucher is very good.

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And we're, we're, it does feel like we're picking up minutes after they've, they've done this and and off they go.

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But I mean, quite what their prospects are, they've got Scorpio, they don't seem to have packed anything to take with them.

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So know where they're going and what they're going to do some after this.

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I don't know if they had any kind of plan, but fortunately, anyone did.

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Well, it's got increasingly desperate the last few episodes because, you know, lots of them have sort of ended, you know, in them just screwing up, basically, we get endgame to Belkoff and we get, um, we've just made Servolan Ridge, uh, and then they just do it up all the time.

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And it's just like they have nowhere else to go.

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They keep making mistakes.

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Like, for example, why not leave those bombs as traps?

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So when the Federation do find them, you could take it out.

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I don't know, maybe they ran out of trap equipment, but they had bombs.

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It just compounds the fat, you know, it's like Una once said, is that, you know, Avon's continued misfortune in his life.

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That's what the whole thing is about.

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Yeah, Blake's lucky.

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Avon isn't.

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And that's, well, totally.

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Exactly.

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So fun.

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That's spoilers.

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I can actually stop sitting spoilers at some point.

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Yeah, we could actually say not do spoilers at all now because Marcus see the whole thing.

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I would say, I really appreciate everybody's efforts in not spoiling in the end because it was definitely worth it, yeah.

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I remember the episode where Gatton dies.

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I can't remember if you were on that one or if we were just talking about his death at some other and you were saying something and everyone was just like, oh boy.

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You're like, yeah, it's amazing that they would actually kill one of their central characters on this show.

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I'm paraphrasing, but that was the joke.

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And I think everyone else was just like, yep, yep.

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I think so, we were, we've been over a couple of walks over the years and I've kind of gone to you.

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Does he know?

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Has he does he actually know?

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don't know.

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Is he just humouring us?

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Yeah.

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We've had that.

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Yeah, he's just...

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He's just humouring us Of course he knows.

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Doesn't everyone know?

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Isn't this on the primary school curriculum?

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all die.

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Or do they?

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Avon really does go full slightly drunk Tom Baker in this 1st scene where he's revealing his mad plan.

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And Glynis Barber is fantastic standing up to him.

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She's the one who just got the fire and took to really stand up to him.

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I love that opening conflict between the 2 of them.

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Her freshness in the team still is the thing that makes her the one, the one, I guess, who isn't used to putting up with his shit.

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So she's like the one who's more likely to just flat out defy him to his face.

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There's some great line delivery though.

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Like Darrow has really reached a point of whatever line he can overexaggerate, he will.

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It's just like, I am just popping out to Tesco for some milk.

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On the commentary track, they, on the DVD that he, he even, it's so funny, the contrast between him and Gareth Thomas has a vague recollection of ones having been in some show called Blake's something or other.

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It's kind of watching things happen and it does jog memories for him.

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So he has got some things to say.

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But Darrow's a whole other thing, but then there's one bit in this scene where he's watching on the commentary and he finishes off his own line because he likes it.

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You can just imagine watching it with him for real and that being exactly what he'd do and it would be absolutely perfect.

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You can tell that Chris Boucher's back because the dialogue is insanely good all the way through this.

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I, half my notes are actually just quotes of lines that are worth mentioning.

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I'm from, but then figureheads are easy to come by.

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Any idiot can be one.

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The dialogue is really, really good here.

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It's like the final swan song for everyone.

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Everyone gets some really good meaty stuff to deliver, which is good.

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There's a shot on the bridge early on that I don't think we've seen before. sort of on the side and it looks like there's a bed or a bunk in the foreground and then there's the seat.

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Yeah, the hammocks.

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They have hammocks down the front in one episode, don't they?

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that they sort of, well, not hammocks, but sort of, like lounges, recliners kind of thing.

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Yeah, lounges.

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I might be wrong, but it's only for a few seconds, but it looks like there was sort of a bed and I wonder if that's what it was supposed to be or maybe I've imagined it.

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Perhaps that's the one thing they've taken from the zenon base is all the...

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Bring the camp base.

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We're all going to have to sleep somewhere on this ship.

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Right.

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But yeah, I mean, we've got Mary Rich back as well. directed half of the 1st half of the season, or not even more than half, in fact.

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So, and then she comes back to do the final episode, yeah, is really, really fantastic.

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It is fantastically well directed.

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Like the one scene where they're in that hut that they find and Dana's casting a shadow on Sulin and they keep moving in and out of these shadows.

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They don't have the budget to show ships flying over them.

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So they just show them looking up. like unlike a fan blowing leaves at Paul Darrow and stuff like...

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You know what?

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Again, like the server line thing.

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I think that's better because you would have had some crappy CSO ship and it wouldn't look good.

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But the, the, seeing their reaction is more interesting a little bit.

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Um, and her use of very little music, right?

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You get the whole ship going out and then the gun run.

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Yeah, planet.

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It's just Liz Parker.

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I think she's probably the star of the show, particularly.

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And again, when you get to the final 3 minutes or so, you get the siren, and then you get an extra siren, and then it stops when it zooms in on Avon at the end.

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That sound design is Fabulous.

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It's just brilliant good off to her.

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I think she's the real, you know, her and Mary Ridge really make it.

214
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Definitely, yeah.

215
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And the tone of it, it's starting with Dudley Simpson going crazy, I'm blowing up the bass, and you get your big dramatic thing at the start.

216
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And then the tone of it is that thing of things gradually slipping out of control and the sense that things are gradually going wrong.

217
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Because the one thing that did surprise me when I 1st sort of, so I think I just missed this when it went out.

218
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I didn't know the show was ending and I didn't know it was the last episode.

219
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I watched it most weeks, but it was just sort of if we weren't in that week, then I wouldn't or something.

220
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So I saw it for the 1st time in the 90s on VHS.

221
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And I think I'd been told sort of what was happening, but I still didn't quite believe it.

222
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I wasn't sure if I'd got that story straight.

223
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But, um, the fact that it's not building up to a crescendo big shootout.

224
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Here they come.

225
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It's not, you know, a Lord of the Rings style, which obviously for obvious reasons.

226
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But budgetary wise, if nothing else.

227
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But yeah, that they do all the loud big stuff in act one and then it gets just gets quieter and darker.

228
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Yeah.

229
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But Gouda Prime, Planet of Cheese is the only thing I can think of every time they mention it.

230
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I don't why name your planet after a cheese?

231
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I don't understand what you're doing there, Chris.

232
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It has felt like this season, it sort of started off and they were kind of reclaiming everything they had where they got the teleport back and then they got the star drive that made it one of the fastest ships and and then the 2nd half of the series was all emissions failing and them not getting any of their objectives and everything and then kind of ultimately sort of coming to this and yeah, having nothing left and the last desperate thing is to try and recruit Blake and then that going disastrously wrong as well.

233
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It's yeah, it sort of felt like a bit of kind of a roller coaster. was quite optimistic to start off with and then, uh, the 2nd half very, very much bad, bad run of form.

234
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So should we talk about Blake himself because this is an episode that is very much about him.

235
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And I think this is possibly Gareth Thomas's best ever performance in the show.

236
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He's been away for the best part of 2 years.

237
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He's been back for a couple of lines in terminal.

238
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And in that time, It really feels like Blake has changed since Star one.

239
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And he hasn't necessarily learnt any lessons and he's still as mistrustful of people, but he's not, he's actually more mistrustful of people than he used to be.

240
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Whereas he seemed always a bit naive previously.

241
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Now he's gone to the other lengths, and this is what ultimately ends up in his death because he doesn't trust the one person who actually, he probably should.

242
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And I think it's a tremendous performance.

243
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I know in the, he's got his wonderful scar down, down his face and the slightly closed eye, and the original plan from Chris Boucher was to give him an eye patch to show.

244
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That he's become like Travis.

245
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And to give you that bit of extra thing, is he with the Federation?

246
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Is he?

247
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Because there's all of that all the way through.

248
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Is he?

249
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Which side is he on?

250
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And yeah, and that just that mirroring.

251
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And I think Gareth Thomas said, no, no, no, that's just a step too far.

252
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Just give me a scar.

253
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It's enough to suggest it.

254
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The iPad will be a bit on the nose if that's not.

255
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And he's very different in this.

256
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His voice is much more rounded.

257
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I don't quite know how to put it, but he's giving a warmer voiced performance.

258
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It's less RP, basically, is what you're saying.

259
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Yes, yes, yes.

260
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That too.

261
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Yeah, that.

262
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But then also, and also because when he's pretending, yeah, and when we 1st see him and we cut Mary Ridge doesn't hang about, his name's in the flipping credits.

263
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She's not teasing us with that.

264
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He's straight to him, there he is, cooking a rabbit.

265
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Pretending to be now, it's pretending to be a bounty hunter with some other people who really are bounty hunters in order to catch someone who really is a rebel, but she's pretending to be in the federation, although we'll come to...

266
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It's like Smiley's people on acid.

267
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Please explain it because... am I stupid?

268
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you know, when I was watching it.

269
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I was like, what, what, what?

270
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I thought you were going to explain it.

271
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This is sort of part of his ruse, is that he is going to be the big rebel leader and lead it back.

272
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But for the moment, while he's on Gouda Prime, as the core of his base.

273
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Acting as the bounty hunter is an act.

274
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Diva calls him out on this and says you don't have to do the big bounty hunter thing and it's an indulgence on Blake's part like he wants to play this this role and do this because then when he captures people.

275
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He can screen them to see whether he, whether they're worthy of joining him or not.

276
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He's got a better idea.

277
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That's how I understand it.

278
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Yeah, he wants to do it personally, doesn't he?

279
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He doesn't he doesn't trust divas people to properly screen them because a federation officer mightn't get through or something like that.

280
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Oh, and so it's people of the Federation.

281
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So it's people that the Federation have put a price on their head that mean that he wants to get in touch with them and try and recruit them.

282
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Yes, and see wherever that.

283
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And also, it's just struck me.

284
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We haven't got Jacqueline Pierce, but we have got diva.

285
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David Collins.

286
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Oh, we haven't got Jacqueline Fierce, but we have got server light.

287
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Alan is an interesting character, isn't she?

288
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Refers to herself with a 3rd person sometimes.

289
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Yes, this is Sasha Mitchell, who is 17 when she records this.

290
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Wow, bless her.

291
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She hasn't really done a huge amount of acting. and is wins the part. and it's going to, it's going for that late 70s, early 80s thing of the, of the young female revolutionary, isn't it?

292
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that Leela comes out of and um, um, Avalon and, you know, and Palfrey's character, um, um, earlier in series two. are both from that mould too, aren't they?

293
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Yeah.

294
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Yeah, and she's got the fabulous early 80s haircut.

295
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I remember very well. from older people around me and...

296
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Oh, I thought you were saying you had it.

297
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No, I didn't.

298
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I had a terrible haircut.

299
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In 1981.

300
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You don't want to see that.

301
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Did you have a mullet?

302
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Hope you had a mullet.

303
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I had a primary school. ambulance of decency.

304
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But I think she's really, really good.

305
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Yes.

306
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Yeah, really impressive for 17.

307
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She's obviously been fast tracked through the Federation ranks, hasn't she then?

308
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Mm-hmm.

309
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Well, but then I see put, oh, that's parallel with Servoland.

310
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Yeah, in there, because that's what you were talking about.

311
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She was Servant's daughter.

312
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Oh really?

313
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Yeah.

314
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Sasha Mitchell revealed this and said, this is what she was told, but then those bits of the script got cut out.

315
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This is why it's better.

316
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Do you know?

317
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All these things that could have been cliches.

318
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Serverland, the eye patch, him being the daughter.

319
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It just makes this self-referential thing. you know, whereas this is not.

320
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It's just a very clean.

321
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Uh, ending.

322
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It's a show enough for Dr. Pierce as the 3rd longest serving cast member that she didn't have a more dramatic or memorable exit.

323
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Because I think in warlord.

324
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She just sort of sets a bomb and flounces out, doesn't she?

325
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I don't think it's so it's a shame.

326
00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:14.759
Yeah, that there wasn't something, even if they didn't want to use her in the finale, that the last episode didn't have something bigger for her, maybe.

327
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Yeah, I mean, they said the reason that she wasn't in the last episode was because they'd used up all her contracted episodes and that was it.

328
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And that's coming from the script editor.

329
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Who could have shifted this around if you want?

330
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Yeah, they go, oh, sorry, we've run out of Cerverland.

331
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I think it's really...

332
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Serve hours.

333
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Right.

334
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But yeah, I mean, so yeah, Blake is in a fascinating position here.

335
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And I think it's one of his best costumes ever.

336
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It's how many eight.

337
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Yeah.

338
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No, yeah.

339
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But there's still...

340
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Or is he Falstaff?

341
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The fat drunk.

342
00:24:02.220 --> 00:24:05.400
I think he's Falstaff, yeah, now I'm thinking about it.

343
00:24:05.460 --> 00:24:07.319
Shakespeare, he wants to do Shakespeare. right.

344
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We'll give you the tragic, the tragic loner who thinks he's really special and isn't.

345
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And that's...

346
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So what I wasn't sure about was...

347
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Did he, in some way, deliberately reveal himself so that Orak could find him?

348
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:31.259
Because that would have made more sense, but I don't remember that being said.

349
00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:35.039
Because the thing they were all just like, oh, yeah, well, obviously he's on that planet.

350
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I'll just figure it out.

351
00:24:35.819 --> 00:24:37.859
Yeah, but he hasn't been able to find it because it's the finale.

352
00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.579
Yeah he's been able to find him for all these years until fairly recently.

353
00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:47.519
So I wondered if Blake had done something that he knew Aurak would be able to pick the trail up in some way off.

354
00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:57.599
Because otherwise, it does seem like he is at some point expecting the, well, some of his old crew and their new friends.

355
00:24:57.660 --> 00:25:07.980
When he, you know, he said, oh, I'm going to go and check out this crashed ship and then, so it's either that or he doesn't know it's them until he is a slave, say Tarrant.

356
00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:14.039
And then he's maybe just kind of heard about them, I guess, that Terrence joined Avon.

357
00:25:14.099 --> 00:25:15.779
Oh, my God, I'm in a Blake.

358
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:17.039
I in a Terry Nation series.

359
00:25:17.099 --> 00:25:19.740
He's something he realises at that moment.

360
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:25.319
But then in that case, didn't he meet someone called Tarant in the 1st episode, actually. wasn't there a mirror?

361
00:25:25.380 --> 00:25:29.819
Isn't there a bit just before Avon shoots him that he says, I arranged all this?

362
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He says I've I set all this up and I've been waiting for you, Avon, which it could just be that he thinks, well, I know Avon's going to be out there recruiting people and he'll get it eventually.

363
00:25:40.259 --> 00:25:43.859
But if Blake didn't instigate the event.

364
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:48.059
What does Avon think that Blake's done to betray him?

365
00:25:48.180 --> 00:25:53.519
Because otherwise they've done anything, everything to get that has been under their own volition.

366
00:25:53.579 --> 00:25:55.259
It's a great point.

367
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:57.180
It's what Terence says, isn't it?

368
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Terrence says he's sold us, Avon, even you.

369
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That's right.

370
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He believes Tarran over Blake because...

371
00:26:07.019 --> 00:26:11.579
And both of the things, and what Blake says is deliberately really ambiguous.

372
00:26:11.700 --> 00:26:16.799
And, like, you would really struggle to come up with words that ambiguous when it's on this point, like your head. not quite sure.

373
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He sort of goes, yes, it was all me or meaning, I've faked it all to get your attention, but from Avon's point of view, he's confessing that it's all him that he's has become a Federation sellout, I think.

374
00:26:31.259 --> 00:26:31.559
Yeah.

375
00:26:31.619 --> 00:26:41.519
Yeah, but yeah, never, never give extremely ambiguous dialogue when someone with a grudge against you is pointing a gun at your chest. one of the central messages of Blake 7, I think.

376
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If someone says...

377
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I get the impression that Aurak always knew where Blake was.

378
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He was just waiting for someone to actually say, Aurak, tell us where Blake is.

379
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Ask him nicely enough.

380
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Yeah.

381
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There's a nice bit, or I can slave get a little bit of interactions, but before they get shot down by the space dodges.

382
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:07.740
There's a little bit of that, which is like a last little gasp of comic relief.

383
00:27:07.740 --> 00:27:10.619
Yeah, yeah. lovely, isn't it?

384
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.079
Slave gets some really good lines in this, actually.

385
00:27:13.140 --> 00:27:18.599
So I love the way he says, I can find no flight controls, master.

386
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:21.960
The ground is very close.

387
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:29.700
And it's like slave was like right.

388
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:34.259
And all, you know, Aurac was being, you know, presumptuous and up, you know, really up itself.

389
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.640
Slave is like, uh, I'm just going to set the alarms off to get your attention, guys.

390
00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:42.180
And then he goes, and by the way, we're under attack.

391
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.400
Yeah, you're approaching the crime.

392
00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:47.039
Yeah, perfect comic timing.

393
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.380
I like this.

394
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:59.220
They've got a nice final scene as well. like Zen did, not quite as moving, but that he, he did, you know, kind of, he said, oh, I hope, basically you're not dying as well.

395
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.119
And then and then uses his name, which they just normally says master, doesn't he?

396
00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:04.259
Yeah.

397
00:28:04.259 --> 00:28:22.740
And, and, and it's, um, it's sort of very fitting for this particular episode that that, or slave's final words are given to, I think he's actually, Tara's unconscious or while, while he's saying them. whereas at whereas Zen got this heroic death of a god, slave is just like, oh, don't mind me, I'm just going to quietly die.

398
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.019
Terribly sorry for inconvenience.

399
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:33.240
And it is, and yeah, so it isn't a dramatic height like Zen's departure was, but it is, yeah, it's fitting in sort of poor old slave.

400
00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:34.019
Yeah.

401
00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:35.039
Yeah.

402
00:28:35.099 --> 00:28:40.440
But yeah, those space dodgems that are they to shoot you for the attack, of all the things, they could never have taken down the liberator.

403
00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:47.220
They've got like registration plates on them or, you know, like 45 dash 6 or something.

404
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.380
Shall we talk a bit about the ship crash?

405
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:50.519
Yes.

406
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.539
Tarrant really does become the marina assertis of this episode.

407
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.740
He's given the car keys for the 1st time.

408
00:28:58.859 --> 00:29:06.660
And I, I, I, like, because stuff generations was 13 years later, which is a strange thing to say anyway.

409
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.599
They crossed a ship in that one, a bunch through a bunch of trees.

410
00:29:09.660 --> 00:29:16.680
And A, it's very, very similar, and B, the effects, the difference in the effects is not that much.

411
00:29:16.740 --> 00:29:23.339
You watch Star Trek Generation, and it's like, okay, those are those are definitely model trees and obviously they're model trees in this.

412
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:33.539
But it's, it's, it's done really well and it cuts at the right time and then the ship kind of starts to fall down a crevice or something and then in front of the camera.

413
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.799
And starts flying around and moving, moving down and sort of falls down.

414
00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:42.119
We get the ramp, the same ramp, the same ramp from liberated, demise.

415
00:29:42.180 --> 00:29:55.079
I think they did a great job considering. you know, where they sacrifice doing these shots of looking up and seeing ships or whatever, and you get those dodging car things, but they did a really good job, really good job.

416
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:59.460
And the oil and everything comes inside it is really cool as well.

417
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:03.900
You get the impression without showing us that it's been just rent open and yeah, it's great.

418
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.259
Yeah And I think this is as well as being the finale.

419
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.980
This is the Blake 7 Christmas special because Scorpio is destroyed by Christmas trees.

420
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.220
It's like a Christmas tree, smash in through the window.

421
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:19.319
Taryn gives an amazing scream as he slides down that ground.

422
00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:20.640
Yeah, just enough.

423
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.980
But it wasn't on the cover of the radio times though.

424
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:39.420
I mean, but before that, we've got Paul Darrow's masterclass of the ship is bucking across in various ways and he's throwing himself against the set all the way across.

425
00:30:39.420 --> 00:30:44.759
Every biggie is skipping across him with Aorak in his hands as well.

426
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.759
Slaves console the whole lot.

427
00:30:47.819 --> 00:30:57.599
I must tell the listeners Colin treated us to an amazing recreation of this scene in his room with a laundry basket. flinging his way from, if I can turn that into a GIF, I will.

428
00:30:57.660 --> 00:30:58.259
You will not.

429
00:30:58.259 --> 00:30:59.279
Will not.

430
00:30:59.339 --> 00:31:01.019
Okay, I'll go.

431
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.619
You got friends in high places, you'd have me banned from the internet if I did that.

432
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:10.319
But it's that bit where he, I was, I'd forgot more he says to Taryn.

433
00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:17.039
Uh, because I thought he was going to say, you know, thank you, Taryn, but no, that's not that's not what Ivan would say.

434
00:31:17.099 --> 00:31:27.299
Uh, just like, uh, because he says good luck to everyone else. sort of just goes, goodbye, you know, and it's, again, great, great line.

435
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:37.440
And then when he's down on the planet, Avon is when he finds the rest of them, he's in that zone of, oh, fuck, this has gone really badly wrong, hasn't it?

436
00:31:37.500 --> 00:32:02.099
You know, they kind of like serene about it and then sort of he doesn't, like, takes a lot to move him, but you can tell he's affected by it in a way, and that, which leads up to that very, very cool smile right at the end of the episode, which we'll get, we'll, uh, 4 years of been leading. leading up to that smile, that kind of like, uh, you know, oh, this is just, this has just been a bit of a laugh, hasn't it?

437
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:02.460
You know?

438
00:32:03.420 --> 00:32:11.819
And the when there's the great confrontation where Villa is demanding, well, they're all acting away in the shed.

439
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:19.980
And it's Michael Keating's got that look on his face that he's thought of something that other people haven't, which is, where's Tarrant, admittedly, is not the 1st question you would ask.

440
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:27.539
Seeing that Avon hasn't even got a witty repost of an answer is like a, oh, that's this is, he's losing it here.

441
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.960
He's not, he's not even just saying equip to distract them.

442
00:32:31.019 --> 00:32:32.279
Yeah.

443
00:32:32.339 --> 00:32:38.940
I love the way Villa keeps going back to that and he's waiting for the answer and he keeps saying, where's Taryn?

444
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.819
If you're here, where's Tara?

445
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:45.660
It's that constant, you're going to have to tell us what's gone on.

446
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:57.240
And this is after Sulin's wonderful bit where I've got to say, where she turns around to him and said, if you've set us up, I really could be quite annoyed.

447
00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:59.640
And you believe her?

448
00:32:59.700 --> 00:33:00.420
You believe it.

449
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:01.200
He's in trouble with her.

450
00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:01.740
Yeah.

451
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.099
Because Phil's the only one showing any concern, isn't he?

452
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:16.019
Because, like you say, Col, when Avon teleports off the ship, He doesn't say thank you or, you know, he kind of, uh, anything for Taron potentially sacrificing himself there.

453
00:33:16.140 --> 00:33:22.740
It's like the end of last week that when Dana doesn't offer Tarrant any comfort when his girlfriend's just been killed.

454
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:31.380
And then even when the, when they get attacked in the little shed, and villas unconscious, as Sulin just goes, is he dead?

455
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.900
It's just, there's not, but not in a way like, oh, is he dead?

456
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:35.220
It's just like, is he dead?

457
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:36.900
Either way is fine for me.

458
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.059
So yeah, it's nice, nice.

459
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:49.859
I think Villa is the one that's sort of concerned about Tarrant, and he gets a couple of little bits where he's the one that realises that Avon's found Blake, and he's the one that thinks about teleporting off the ship.

460
00:33:49.920 --> 00:34:02.460
And if he didn't have those bits, he'd just be such a complete idiot by this stage, like he's got like worse, as the series has gone on, they treat him more of an idiot and he seems to be a bit more of an idiot.

461
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:08.159
Like when they do the joke about, you know, did Zukon tell a federation and he says, what about the wine?

462
00:34:08.219 --> 00:34:09.780
And he doesn't even seem to be joking then.

463
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:10.920
He seems to have...

464
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.500
He needs to be doing that quite, quite earnestly.

465
00:34:13.619 --> 00:34:31.199
So, I think another thing about this episode, it would have been nice, maybe if you had one last chance to use his skill set of lock picking and that kind of thing, maybe even to get into a flyer or to get into the base at the end or something like that, because as this has gone on, he's been the butt of the jokes quite a lot, hasn't he?

466
00:34:31.260 --> 00:34:33.119
I know there's always been an element of that.

467
00:34:33.179 --> 00:34:36.179
But it does seem like he's treated as the fool more than he used to be.

468
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.719
And yeah, right at the end, he's the hero.

469
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.880
He's the one who knocks Arla out.

470
00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:52.860
He's the one who disarms her and knocks her out and is the 1st one to sort of step forward and say, oh, I'm harmless and he takes, yeah, he does that.

471
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.000
That's a really big hero moment for him and quite right too.

472
00:34:57.059 --> 00:34:59.159
I think of all of them standing there.

473
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:00.599
He's the one who deserved that.

474
00:35:00.659 --> 00:35:02.579
Hitting a 17 year old girl.

475
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.280
Come to a different.

476
00:35:05.340 --> 00:35:10.139
He does apologise, and he immediately apologises, even though she's just shot his mate. in front of him.

477
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:10.980
Don't really sorry.

478
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:16.320
If you, I don't know if you notice, but if you watch back, I've only just picked up on it now, it's when Darrow shoots his wife.

479
00:35:16.380 --> 00:35:19.980
She's kind of, goes, oh, that really hurts.

480
00:35:24.659 --> 00:35:28.920
You can imagine discussions in the Darrow household about that.

481
00:35:28.980 --> 00:35:31.739
How do you hear from Darrow?

482
00:35:31.739 --> 00:35:33.119
I'm going to have to shoot you this week.

483
00:35:33.179 --> 00:35:35.699
My wife has been murdered.

484
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:39.900
By me.

485
00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:55.920
I really like the scene, that scene of Blake and Tarrant talking, although they're at night, you know, and it's sort of just before sunrise.

486
00:35:55.980 --> 00:36:02.340
And apparently that was the last scene they ever shot because they got all the action sequences that you get them in the bag 1st in case anything goes wrong.

487
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:09.239
And that, yeah, that was pointedly the last scene they ever filmed, those 2 together, when them having never met before.

488
00:36:09.300 --> 00:36:16.139
It was a, but, um, but their mutual, their perms both started making me think of Harry Enfield's scousers.

489
00:36:16.619 --> 00:36:18.659
Calm down, come.

490
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.139
It was a particular point in time to experience that.

491
00:36:23.340 --> 00:36:26.400
And we found out about Jenna, or do we?

492
00:36:26.460 --> 00:36:27.420
Do we believe him?

493
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.219
Sally Nevette.

494
00:36:29.940 --> 00:36:32.280
Very doesn't. very wisely.

495
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.019
Not happen.

496
00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:35.280
But it's lovely.

497
00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:44.760
And I think that's a really nice scene because he's obviously looking for a reaction from Tarran at that moment where he mentions a young smuggler of his acquaintance.

498
00:36:44.820 --> 00:37:03.719
Her name was Jenna, just to see with her, A, whether Avon's told him tales of what they used to do on the Liberator before he took it on and B, to see, obviously, sort of a character moment, see, oh, yeah, if you know about Jenna, then you know, then you're definitely the Tarrant, I think you are.

499
00:37:03.780 --> 00:37:07.079
Didn't mention about Gan to him because like, well, they wouldn't have told him about that.

500
00:37:07.139 --> 00:37:08.340
They would have told him about Gam.

501
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.280
No point, that name were a bit cropped up.

502
00:37:11.340 --> 00:37:12.059
But maybe Jenna did.

503
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:13.139
Let's test on it on that.

504
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.159
Yeah, because Callie gets a mention as well, but yeah, Gan's the only one that doesn't get a mention.

505
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:17.579
That's right.

506
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:18.480
Yeah.

507
00:37:18.539 --> 00:37:18.960
Yeah.

508
00:37:19.019 --> 00:37:20.280
Poor old can.

509
00:37:20.579 --> 00:37:23.099
Yeah, I don't think it's true.

510
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:30.719
Jenna is alive somewhere and she's the only one and she'll, she's probably back on earth killing everyone else.

511
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.260
No, they're all dead.

512
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:35.219
Oh sorry.

513
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.360
Alrek's still alive.

514
00:37:39.420 --> 00:37:40.800
Yes, that's right Yeah, yeah.

515
00:37:40.860 --> 00:37:41.400
Yeah.

516
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:42.179
He's still there.

517
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.000
We should pop down to Yatley Heathwood and see if we can still there.

518
00:37:45.059 --> 00:37:50.159
Maybe it's filled up with water and farmyard. forest animals and squirrels are just drinking out of it.

519
00:37:50.219 --> 00:37:53.400
Well, his brain continues.

520
00:37:53.880 --> 00:38:02.639
It's calculated the precise meaning of the universe and the answer to the question, meaning it life, and then the squirrel comes along and just does a little drink out of it.

521
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.800
It's like a, look, a blue plaque on one of the trees saying this, yeah, this is where Aurak fell.

522
00:38:13.860 --> 00:38:18.900
I was thinking that the only thing they've really achieved is keeping Aurak out of the Federation's hands for 3 years.

523
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:20.880
That's...

524
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.920
That's some total of all...

525
00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:27.300
Or I could have been being extremely unhelpful and patronising to the Federation instead.

526
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.760
I haven't actually done anything useful for them.

527
00:38:29.820 --> 00:38:30.360
I don't know.

528
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:37.079
So Blake suddenly announces to Tarrant that actually I've, ha, ha, I've captured you.

529
00:38:37.139 --> 00:38:38.219
I'm actually a bounty hunter.

530
00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:41.219
And like, and diva plays along with it.

531
00:38:41.219 --> 00:38:43.679
And it's like, why?

532
00:38:43.739 --> 00:38:45.300
It is.

533
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:46.980
Oh, but that's the test, isn't it?

534
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:48.420
That is the test is.

535
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:50.579
Can you put up with this nonsense?

536
00:38:50.820 --> 00:38:52.500
For some reason.

537
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.119
Yeah, for some reason.

538
00:38:54.900 --> 00:39:02.460
Yeah, and that's exactly why Taryn doesn't get to see like when he like rushes off behind the bit of scenery.

539
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:05.639
They all sort of go, hey, we got him, you know.

540
00:39:05.699 --> 00:39:08.219
He just, you know, it's good to see that.

541
00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:11.699
It's why the whole thing goes wrong at the end because he does...

542
00:39:11.699 --> 00:39:14.460
He was like, are you sure this is a good idea?

543
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.880
It's like, yeah, what's the worst that could happen?

544
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:18.480
Exactly.

545
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:23.219
Ocean credit sequences, diva waking up going, I told you.

546
00:39:24.420 --> 00:39:28.440
It's very, it's like sitcom structure that, isn't it?

547
00:39:28.500 --> 00:39:39.059
some characters know some things and then there's there's like double meanings, like you say, what Blake says so that they go off and think, yeah, that's that's a completely different meaning.

548
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:46.920
So, yeah, that's what occurred to me. the thing in sitcoms sometimes you think, God, if you just sat down and just spoke to each other and communicated effectively.

549
00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:49.380
Uh, yeah, yes.

550
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:55.199
Yeah, then the Tarrant comes back with a gorilla suit. dry cleaners.

551
00:39:56.940 --> 00:39:59.280
Not that type of gorilla.

552
00:40:04.260 --> 00:40:06.300
Blake's good life.

553
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:17.159
I did think, well, talking of the good life, it did strike me that, well, she is very young playing, what's her name, Alan.

554
00:40:17.219 --> 00:40:30.119
I just think who, if they cast a bigger name as someone, and that meets me, that made me think, imagine, um, Penelope Keith as, as the, as the buddy in this, as Alan.

555
00:40:30.179 --> 00:40:31.079
I would have just loved that.

556
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.440
The biggest stars of 1981.

557
00:40:34.739 --> 00:40:35.340
Yeah.

558
00:40:35.340 --> 00:40:36.059
Yeah.

559
00:40:36.300 --> 00:40:38.219
She's probably too busy.

560
00:40:38.340 --> 00:40:38.880
Probably.

561
00:40:38.940 --> 00:40:40.800
But they could have come out too expensive.

562
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.699
Again, I think it...

563
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:51.480
I mean, I think it would be hilarious, but it works because like there's only 3 extra characters.

564
00:40:51.539 --> 00:40:52.920
You don't know who they are.

565
00:40:52.980 --> 00:40:55.019
You're not focussing on the fact that they're a big star.

566
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:57.119
You don't know if they're going to switch either way.

567
00:40:57.179 --> 00:41:02.219
But sort of, you know, fantasy Blake 7 recasting, we can get to that inner retrospective, I think.

568
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:03.960
A lot of that.

569
00:41:04.980 --> 00:41:07.139
Pollings is very good.

570
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.619
If he wasn't, it would be in trouble.

571
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:11.219
Yeah, yeah.

572
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.739
Because he and he's the one who's got that job.

573
00:41:13.739 --> 00:41:15.719
Like when Blake says to him, indulge me.

574
00:41:16.380 --> 00:41:22.739
We've got to believe that Diva does think Blake's rather ridiculous scheme despite the fact that it's frustrating him.

575
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:26.460
It's all right then, and him sort of playing along with it.

576
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:27.840
Tells us to play along with it too.

577
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:31.739
Or at least to give it a degree of credence why anyone would play along with it.

578
00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:44.280
Because if, yeah, if he was, if you didn't have that conviction and just sort of ordinariness that he, that he has this really hard to pin down, then, then the episode would struggle without him doing that that well.

579
00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:55.980
This is Blake's been doing what Avon's been trying to do this season as well, and hasn't he's been trying to recruit people to the cause and kind of build a bit of a bit of a rebel, well, rebel.

580
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:57.420
He actually says rebel alliance, doesn't he?

581
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:58.619
Star Wars.

582
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.840
I think it's the only time I've heard him say that.

583
00:42:00.900 --> 00:42:04.679
He says, um, they needed sort of a leader of this, this rebel alliance.

584
00:42:04.739 --> 00:42:10.619
So Blake's kind of been doing that on Galda Prime and the people he's bounty hunted.

585
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.980
Uh, you know, seeing which ones that would be sympathetic to the cause and everything.

586
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:25.500
So, yeah, it is frustrate, they almost get what they need, which is another base, a figurehead for the, for the, for the alliance, and it just, yeah, it just falls apart.

587
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:33.059
Well, no, I suppose because Ireland's already, presumably at that point, contacted the Federation and to send the troops in, hasn't she?

588
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:33.960
So that's...

589
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:36.719
Yeah, she's been sent to investigate it anyway.

590
00:42:36.780 --> 00:42:37.860
Yeah, it's in there.

591
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:39.059
It's in their sights.

592
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:39.420
Yeah.

593
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:40.380
Yeah.

594
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:41.940
So yeah, it wouldn't quite have worked.

595
00:42:42.059 --> 00:42:46.440
That it just proves to the fact that they're actually both a bit crap.

596
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:51.719
At this rebel stuff and they're not going to pick it anywhere.

597
00:42:51.780 --> 00:42:54.239
Yeah, the Federation deserves to win.

598
00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:56.039
I mean, who are these idiots?

599
00:42:59.940 --> 00:43:05.099
Would Blake have done so well if he hadn't had the liberator on his side in the early days.

600
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:05.639
Who knows?

601
00:43:06.059 --> 00:43:15.539
And and teleporting here there and everywhere, and still they manage to cock everything up, despite the fact that you can just beam that beam straight down into anybody's headquarters whenever you want.

602
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.760
Beep down, blow it up.

603
00:43:17.940 --> 00:43:19.679
Get out.

604
00:43:19.739 --> 00:43:21.179
Yeah, you know, yeah.

605
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:37.019
I think what you've alluded to, Pete, is that we only see squibs go off on Blake, don't we?

606
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.960
So he's the only one that seems to finish dead.

607
00:43:40.019 --> 00:43:45.000
So was this just in case it came back, they could say the others were stunned?

608
00:43:45.059 --> 00:43:48.119
Because they all, it sounds like a gunshot, doesn't it?

609
00:43:48.179 --> 00:43:58.619
They don't sound like laser blasts and then they all, so they get a slow motion falling down, but there's no sign of bullet hole or blood on any of them.

610
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:04.260
So if that was a deliberate ploy in case what I thought, just in case we come back, we can say they all got stunned and captured.

611
00:44:04.380 --> 00:44:11.820
Well, Chris Boucher says, as much as he was concerned, he was writing a cliffhanger, not an absolute end.

612
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:16.440
And he, I think he hadn't decided exactly how he was going to resolve it, but he's always hinted, hasn't he?

613
00:44:16.500 --> 00:44:21.599
Is he just, is he still, did he spend his entire rest of his life just dropping hints that he would have come up with something?

614
00:44:21.659 --> 00:44:22.860
that he hadn't.

615
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.960
I think he did say something like, you know, he would have found a way to bring some of them back if they signed back on again.

616
00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:35.460
But I think I think the fact, I think this is definitive, and I don't like, you know, this is the way it ended, right?

617
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:53.099
And to me, But I, uh, I take the point that, uh, about the guns, but, but actually, I don't, I can't remember there being blood in any of the other shootings and the, the, the federation guns don't tend to have, you know, the, stun setting, uh, Mr. Riker.

618
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:56.400
Do you know, they, it's always, they always just kill people.

619
00:44:56.460 --> 00:45:16.320
Um, and they, they, they, they, they, Sorry, I was going to say, the one time that they, um, that they specifically don't kill people is a plot point in Project Avalon where they've got special issue guns that just knock people over or whatever and don't kill them.

620
00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:19.679
So they don't have a generally a stun facility.

621
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:24.119
I'm just, I'm just like, I'm really glad it ended like this, right?

622
00:45:24.179 --> 00:45:30.780
I, you know, because the quality of the 4 seasons has always been really, really high.

623
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:31.860
Right?

624
00:45:31.860 --> 00:45:33.179
And it gets better.

625
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:39.179
This, you know, it's a really, really strong run of episodes towards the end of this season as well, that it goes out on a high.

626
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.820
It doesn't have a chance to go.

627
00:45:41.820 --> 00:45:46.679
Star Trek, next generation, season 7 and just go out on a just like a mess, do you know?

628
00:45:46.739 --> 00:46:00.480
It's really, uh, uh, uh, and and having not plotted it like that and to have written it like a cliffhanger, it means you can, like you do, you almost do a Stephen Moffatt and throw everything at it and fuck it, we'll think next year.

629
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.900
But they, uh, it means they just went, they just went for it.

630
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:06.119
And I think it went for it.

631
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.739
And it is great to fantasise about what if they came back and they weren't dead and what does it mean?

632
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:16.019
And like, oh, and, um, you know, they all get up at the end and go, oh, that was fun.

633
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:16.739
That was another test.

634
00:46:17.699 --> 00:46:24.840
Or all the cabbages scrolls back and it's like, well, now then, okay, those 1st set of clones we made of ourselves. quite and convincing.

635
00:46:24.900 --> 00:46:26.760
Let's make some more clone masters.

636
00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:29.699
There's all sorts of things you can come up with.

637
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:35.579
But yeah, it wouldn't then be the one of the greatest endings of a TV series of all time that everybody talks about.

638
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:36.840
So yeah, you wouldn't really want that.

639
00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:41.880
I love that, but even the start of the scene doesn't scream, this is it.

640
00:46:41.940 --> 00:46:43.980
This is the beginning of the, unless you know.

641
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:45.360
And unless you're watching the time.

642
00:46:45.420 --> 00:46:53.219
In fact, and watching it when I watched it the other day for the 1st time in a few years, it had that effect of, oh, we're here.

643
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:56.699
It's this scene already, nothing's been going ramping, ramping, ramping, ramping up.

644
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:58.440
It's being dramatic.

645
00:46:58.500 --> 00:47:03.480
But then suddenly they all run in and it's like they've arrived in a scene that they're not meant to be in yet.

646
00:47:03.539 --> 00:47:09.420
Because of that, because it's not been doing that structural stuff that you expect from a grand cretendo finale.

647
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:19.500
That's what's so unnerving about it, as well as, like you said, Elizabeth Parker's special sound is just is always really good at that eeriness.

648
00:47:19.619 --> 00:47:24.960
No, that was my immediate reaction as well, which I text to you guys was, well, that escalated quickly.

649
00:47:25.019 --> 00:47:50.880
Yeah, we sort of had a plan where I might record my instant reaction or kind of over the final scene, but I kind of didn't realise it was the final scene and then I was just kind of hooked by it and it was over and I was like, oh, I didn't, I didn't record anything because, yeah, it just, it just happens and plays out and it's, although it's a bit of a sort of a feeling of doom right from the beginning of the episode, that, that particular crescendo doesn't, uh, Yeah, and they all just die together as well.

650
00:47:50.940 --> 00:47:52.679
It's not like throughout the episode or anything, is it?

651
00:47:52.739 --> 00:47:55.320
It's all just one after the other, really relentless.

652
00:47:55.380 --> 00:47:56.099
Yeah.

653
00:47:56.159 --> 00:48:09.659
I wonder if there was other, because we could have, Tarron could have died in the crash, then one of the, one, a Villa could have got killed by the, by the, by the people on, when they were hiding in the shed. and they could have just picked off one, until you left with it, left with only Avon at the end.

654
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:10.679
That would be perfectly...

655
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:18.179
I straight for a perfectly sensible way of doing it, but giving them all the last shoot at the big shootout at the waggons in a circle.

656
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:21.780
Yeah. moment that is suddenly, but it's sprung upon them.

657
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.280
They don't really know what room.

658
00:48:23.340 --> 00:48:25.619
They're just in this room and then suddenly they're all being killed, you know?

659
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:26.340
It's yeah.

660
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:27.960
And it happens that quickly.

661
00:48:28.019 --> 00:48:33.420
It's that thing of the, you know, we got a decent amount of federation guards, like they're all flooding in.

662
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:34.500
There's at least 10 of them.

663
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:39.360
And they, the whole circular motion, like they're completely surrounded.

664
00:48:39.420 --> 00:48:40.800
There's no way out.

665
00:48:40.860 --> 00:48:49.079
And normally in episodes of Blake 7, as you say, Servolam would walk in and go, well, I see you have discovered my secret base, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

666
00:48:49.139 --> 00:48:52.559
And then they'd be like, lots of exposition and da da da.

667
00:48:52.619 --> 00:48:59.940
But, It's not what you expect at all because it's uh, it is so shockingly and quickly delivered.

668
00:49:00.059 --> 00:49:02.579
I think the slow mode does work.

669
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:09.719
Uh, because you are kind of, otherwise you're thinking, well, what just happened and it's very, very clear what has happened.

670
00:49:09.780 --> 00:49:18.239
And it gives each of the actors, their big close-up and their deaf mean something sort of televisually.

671
00:49:18.300 --> 00:49:22.500
Do you think they all practised their death faces the night before they were?

672
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:23.280
They must have, I would.

673
00:49:23.340 --> 00:49:25.559
One day in the Axon Hilton.

674
00:49:25.739 --> 00:49:28.019
Josette really got...

675
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:28.619
Yeah, absolutely.

676
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:30.360
I think she wins.

677
00:49:30.420 --> 00:49:33.599
They should have got some tips from the lady in Assassin, shouldn't they?

678
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:35.760
That would...

679
00:49:37.380 --> 00:49:42.840
And then there's just that amazing moment as Paul Darrow, or even Avon, maybe.

680
00:49:42.900 --> 00:49:47.820
Look, Avon looks Blake straight in the eyes and says, don't, don't you want me?

681
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.380
Just joining in with the human league at the UK.

682
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:53.099
I knew you'd say that.

683
00:49:54.179 --> 00:49:56.340
Got to complete the series.

684
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.000
It's a great number one to go out with.

685
00:50:00.059 --> 00:50:01.079
It is.

686
00:50:01.139 --> 00:50:02.460
Five years later on.

687
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:03.480
You've got the world at your feet.

688
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.639
But everything keeps crescendoing in the direction as well.

689
00:50:08.699 --> 00:50:09.420
Yes.

690
00:50:09.420 --> 00:50:11.219
It's like you get all...

691
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.460
And then it stands over...

692
00:50:14.940 --> 00:50:28.800
Blake's body and while they're still coming in, he's looking down and you see him on the ground and it's looking back up and then the lights sort of come up a bit and the sound stops, all the alarms go off.

693
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.039
And it's just slowly, what's going to happen?

694
00:50:32.219 --> 00:50:40.199
And so the question is, guys, what, I mean, I, you know, canonically, I think the ending is, they tend to shoot him.

695
00:50:40.260 --> 00:50:51.480
Um, but, uh, the fact that it's left like that and it, you know, oh, he suddenly ducks and shoots 10 of them and rolls under, what's the other alternative?

696
00:50:51.539 --> 00:50:54.360
What would be, what would be the, the?

697
00:50:54.420 --> 00:50:57.599
I mean, what happened that didn't Paul Darrow write a book?

698
00:50:57.659 --> 00:50:59.219
Did he explain what?

699
00:50:59.219 --> 00:51:02.820
Free books, explaining how he got out of it.

700
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:03.480
I don't know.

701
00:51:03.539 --> 00:51:04.380
I've not read it.

702
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:08.219
Or was it just somehow Avon escaped.

703
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:08.460
Yeah.

704
00:51:08.460 --> 00:51:16.260
That's what you could think if they had been united and they hadn't had that misunderstanding.

705
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:18.840
They could have worked.

706
00:51:18.900 --> 00:51:27.719
It could have stood together and they would have had some warning maybe that the Federation was coming if Daryl's wife had still been alive and they could have...

707
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:29.099
Yeah, she was about to warn them, would they?

708
00:51:29.099 --> 00:51:32.460
They could have potentially, you know, kind of defended themselves or locked the doors or something.

709
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:34.800
So it's just that frustration, isn't it?

710
00:51:34.860 --> 00:51:42.659
That, that, the way, the way they were mistrustful of each other and the misunderstanding and all that all led in many different ways to their downfall.

711
00:51:42.780 --> 00:51:50.639
And how do you think Darrow plays that finals, that the shooting of Blake specifically, because it looks, his face is just hot fear.

712
00:51:50.699 --> 00:51:51.960
He looks, what am I doing?

713
00:51:52.019 --> 00:52:01.980
He looks like he's, and I guess it's because at that moment he, because he's misunderstood, um, the ambiguous statement from Blake and because Tarrant has told him Blake's definitely betrayed them.

714
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:03.780
He's just completely believed that.

715
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:12.539
But I think after he's pulled the 1st shot, it's like he already regrets it, but he's like in for a penny for a pound.

716
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:13.860
I think it just went off in his hand.

717
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.380
In the struggle.

718
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:24.960
That's part of me that thinks he can't quite believe that he's actually he's actually done it.

719
00:52:25.019 --> 00:52:27.480
I'll do it again.

720
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:41.039
He plays it completely shocked when he actually sees Blake from across the room like, there's his friend, his enemy, this person that he's built up in his head in lots of ways.

721
00:52:41.099 --> 00:52:49.380
And then the way he reacts, he wrecks so quickly with the gun and shoots him down. like, I can't believe it.

722
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.719
And then he shoots him again, just to make sure.

723
00:52:52.559 --> 00:53:02.519
It's, yeah, it's really interestingly, interestingly played by Darrow and a lot of, there's a lot going on on his face that you can't quite work out.

724
00:53:02.579 --> 00:53:03.539
Yeah.

725
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:09.300
Yeah, because he's not just angrily scowling or, you know, which would be a straightforward thing to do.

726
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:10.800
It's different to that.

727
00:53:10.860 --> 00:53:11.639
Yeah.

728
00:53:11.699 --> 00:53:17.159
It's about as emotional as you've seen him when he says, have you betrayed me?

729
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:24.780
Like that, he's normally much more kind of reserved, isn't he, and cool, and that's, yeah, probably about as...

730
00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:26.099
Yeah.

731
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:27.300
Yeah.

732
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:31.679
And then, like, instead of saying, no. says, I set all this up.

733
00:53:31.739 --> 00:53:33.780
Terence doesn't understand.

734
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:35.639
No, bloody Tarrant.

735
00:53:35.699 --> 00:53:37.260
It's actually his fault.

736
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.199
Yeah, because he just, yeah, Hannah was right all along.

737
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.219
If he'd only died in the crash.

738
00:53:45.300 --> 00:53:47.639
The rest of them must be fine.

739
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:52.440
I love the way the debt sounds, like, jumping right back.

740
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.980
But I love that during the crash where his little the desk sort of trundles across the room.

741
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:57.960
I mean, Saturday.

742
00:53:58.019 --> 00:54:00.480
It's not technical, desk is a rock console.

743
00:54:00.539 --> 00:54:01.500
That's the word, isn't it?

744
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:01.800
Yeah.

745
00:54:01.860 --> 00:54:03.659
It's like they're all on wheels.

746
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:04.199
Oh, no.

747
00:54:04.260 --> 00:54:05.099
Yeah.

748
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:15.059
I think that, um, yeah, what actually happens is Avon shoots out the lights and shoots a sprinkler and so, and then it's all chaos with water everywhere.

749
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:15.840
It's pitch black.

750
00:54:15.900 --> 00:54:20.820
Everyone's shooting their stun guns into the air and everybody crawls away to escape.

751
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:23.820
That's a great theory, but it's bollocks.

752
00:54:25.019 --> 00:54:28.260
Well, we've missed you this series, Cole.

753
00:54:29.099 --> 00:54:30.960
I've missed you.

754
00:54:31.019 --> 00:54:44.639
Also, I have to say, sort of direction wise, Mary Ridge's choice to do the jump cut, to the close-up, the ever closer up close-up of Chris Barrow. is amazing.

755
00:54:44.699 --> 00:54:49.139
It shouldn't work and it really, really does.

756
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:54.000
Like I said before, I think that's some of the best 5 minutes of TV.

757
00:54:54.059 --> 00:54:55.679
Mm-hmm, you know?

758
00:54:57.179 --> 00:55:00.420
And the light, yeah, on the light and the music and then the smile.

759
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:14.820
It's just that is the only shot that the, and he gets to, he's, I think Avon is, is, I think he's smiling because he's actually living in a world that doesn't have Blake in it suddenly. and suddenly he's he's suddenly the most important.

760
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:26.280
Yeah, he's suddenly the most important person in the rebellion or the most, and even though it's only going to, he knows that he's beaten Blake, he's lived 30 seconds longer than Blake did.

761
00:55:26.340 --> 00:55:27.360
That is so he's the way.

762
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:28.380
That is a great theory.

763
00:55:28.619 --> 00:55:30.599
It's bollocks though.

764
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:43.980
He's smiling because he's realised how ridiculous this whole thing has become and how fatalistic his entire life has been and it's all been for nothing and how much he's screwed up.

765
00:55:44.340 --> 00:55:46.019
I agree.

766
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:47.159
I think that's a great theory, by the way.

767
00:55:47.219 --> 00:55:47.579
I really do.

768
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:49.440
You're one, you know?

769
00:55:49.500 --> 00:55:53.940
It's just so great that you can interpret these things in so many different ways, you know?

770
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:59.219
And when I watched it the other day, I was like, it's been a good, good part of the next day just thinking about it.

771
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.519
And the other great thing, guys.

772
00:56:02.699 --> 00:56:04.920
Is we can watch it all again.

773
00:56:04.980 --> 00:56:06.239
It's great.

774
00:56:06.300 --> 00:56:07.619
You can start.

775
00:56:07.619 --> 00:56:09.239
And then, you know, they're all aligned.

776
00:56:09.300 --> 00:56:09.780
Blu-ray.

777
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:11.280
Yeah, on Blu-ray, yeah.

778
00:56:11.340 --> 00:56:12.300
Exactly.

779
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:14.280
Black and white and backwards, if you like, as well.

780
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.760
And hopefully the Blu-ray is going to be up.

781
00:56:17.820 --> 00:56:20.579
This episode on DVD has terrible picture quality.

782
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:28.019
On the outside, yeah, especially the outside, although the inside too just seemed a bit blocky than usual, but maybe it was the outside stuff was just biasingly.

783
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.420
But yeah, I think they're going to struggle.

784
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:36.539
And I know it's really misty and the film print isn't, it's obviously not on lavish film stock.

785
00:56:36.659 --> 00:56:39.000
I hope they can do something.

786
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:42.360
I watched the bloopers reel afterwards because I needed cheering up.

787
00:56:42.420 --> 00:56:49.079
Uh, and uh, there's some scenes in in the in the forest and they look fantastic.

788
00:56:49.139 --> 00:56:53.699
So I don't know if they did something to make it look quite sort of blurry up.

789
00:56:53.699 --> 00:56:57.539
Misty kind of filthy or something.

790
00:56:57.539 --> 00:57:02.519
But the DVD doesn't resolve that very well because it's very, very... very, very rocky.

791
00:57:02.579 --> 00:57:04.559
It might look better on VA.

792
00:57:04.619 --> 00:57:06.059
Yeah, it might look better.

793
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:07.260
Yeah, because it's not got the compression.

794
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:09.480
Yeah, literally, yeah. a great point.

795
00:57:09.539 --> 00:57:11.460
It's like the difference between a wave and an MP3.

796
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:12.179
Yeah, exactly.

797
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:18.119
But I think they might, if they've still got all that film footage on film. then they can make it look great.

798
00:57:18.179 --> 00:57:31.320
But there is a bit where, um, there's a bunch of missed stroke fog, and I wasn't sure if there was just someone, you know, winding a machine off camera producing it all, or it was actually like really, really real missed.

799
00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:32.519
I think it probably was real mist.

800
00:57:32.579 --> 00:57:33.000
It looks great.

801
00:57:33.059 --> 00:57:38.280
I think there was there was certainly rain on that location shoot.

802
00:57:38.340 --> 00:57:41.280
Darrow's hair changes between outside and inside.

803
00:57:42.780 --> 00:57:49.920
But it's quite a nice looking planet compared to a lot of the planets they've been to for it being this incredibly dangerous, lawless place.

804
00:57:49.980 --> 00:58:04.739
I suppose the idea is it was a farming planet, so I suppose it's got to look quite kind of lush and everything, but we talked about this a bit before we started, but the Google Maps reviews of that location, say, this used to be a nice woods.

805
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:12.239
It's now been turned into a quarry, which has ruined it, and it's the irony.

806
00:58:12.300 --> 00:58:13.559
The irony.

807
00:58:13.619 --> 00:58:17.159
It's now been cut up by illegal motocrosses and fly tippers.

808
00:58:17.219 --> 00:58:18.599
When is a word not a word?

809
00:58:18.659 --> 00:58:21.659
When humans destroy it, like everything else in this world?

810
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:23.280
Humans are the vermin.

811
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:27.599
So it's my mother Blake 7 fan.

812
00:58:27.659 --> 00:58:30.599
Chris Boucher has written the Google Maps reviews.

813
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:42.659
But nobody can feel shortchanged by this episode.

814
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:50.159
Even the, I mean, you know, Dana and Sulin and Villa are sort of kept together as a group, but they're all they're all getting good lines.

815
00:58:50.219 --> 00:58:51.539
They're all getting snappy moments.

816
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:57.000
And that's why we've got so few guest cast, of course, you know, so there's less of that to be shared around.

817
00:58:57.059 --> 00:58:58.260
Yeah, it's awesome.

818
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:00.840
And they're all, and they're all in character.

819
00:59:00.900 --> 00:59:02.940
Nobody has to do anything preposterously out of character.

820
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:07.739
Apart from me, and even like Villa slugs the girl at the end, she has just shot his mate.

821
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:11.639
That's him behaving in an unusual way, but he's trying to save all their lives.

822
00:59:11.699 --> 00:59:21.239
And he's doing it by, you know, deviously pretending, and he obviously pretending to be siding with the Federation, or is it, knowing good old Villary, probably would if he could get away with it.

823
00:59:21.300 --> 00:59:22.800
But that's the thing.

824
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:28.199
It is all in character, including Blake having a ridiculous scheme that goes completely wrong and backfires.

825
00:59:28.260 --> 00:59:31.380
Even having a ridiculously cunning scheme doesn't work.

826
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:33.300
What a great show this is.

827
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:35.340
What a great love it.

828
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:49.079
Isn't it just, like you say, Cole, this is the series going out on high, and so many people would say this is the best episode of the whole series, you know, and you can absolutely see why.

829
00:59:49.139 --> 00:59:53.639
And I always forget because it's not one that I just think, oh, well, do you know what today?

830
00:59:53.699 --> 00:59:54.840
I'm just going to put on Blake.

831
00:59:54.900 --> 00:59:56.880
Because that never happens.

832
00:59:56.940 --> 00:59:58.559
You're never in that that mood.

833
00:59:58.619 --> 01:00:09.840
So, you know, it always feels a bit of a special moment when I actually get there because of the way we've done this podcast over the last 4 years.

834
01:00:09.900 --> 01:00:16.559
It's felt like we've been on the long course to this episode and we've done it.

835
01:00:16.619 --> 01:00:21.420
We've got to the end and that's a pretty amazing thing in itself.

836
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:29.760
And so I think sort of adding that extra layer onto it this time made it feel like a real event like, wow. we're here.

837
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:31.920
Yes, how have we got here?

838
01:00:31.980 --> 01:00:37.079
Yes, well, at the end of this, podcast, we're all going to be surrounded and shot by Federation.

839
01:00:38.340 --> 01:00:42.179
The Australians are all going to burst in behind us any moment.

840
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:54.000
I think what happens at the end is that Avon surrenders is arrested, has a sure trial, and then is sentenced to Signus Alpha.

841
01:00:54.059 --> 01:00:56.519
Do you know Mark, there is.

842
01:00:56.579 --> 01:01:05.460
There's a fan audio play made a few years ago, which basically does that.

843
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:10.440
They, um, the Avon is captured.

844
01:01:10.500 --> 01:01:12.420
He's on a on a prison planet.

845
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:13.440
He's in prison.

846
01:01:13.500 --> 01:01:44.099
He has his final conversation with Servolan, where she explains that this is something that happens in the Federation every, every 10 years or so, someone comes up, um, they need someone to fight against the Federation so that the Federation can keep going, and it's always someone called Blake, and the audio finishes with the 1st scene of um, the way back, only with Paul Darrow as Blake, because Avon has been.

847
01:01:44.219 --> 01:01:52.619
Um, conditioned and brainwashed to believe that he's he's Blake and the new Blake is in place to go through this all over again.

848
01:01:52.860 --> 01:01:54.780
It's brilliant.

849
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:55.800
It's really really good.

850
01:01:55.860 --> 01:02:14.820
That's a great, like, I think if any of them survived. and there was a season five, E, uh, that that bringing back Paul Darrow would have been the only thing to do, whereas the others would have just been a, you know, a not a great way to not great way to do it.

851
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:22.019
And you could almost have done a like a soft reset, written reboot and have him having to just be on his own again.

852
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:34.019
Yeah, maybe he's got his own maybe he's got his own radio show based somewhere like Chicago, he's got a British housekeeper. his old dad moves in, played by Gareth Thomas.

853
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:39.179
Oh, Gary Jones would have loved that playing Paul Darrell.

854
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:40.980
I could run and run.

855
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:43.619
Took me a minute.

856
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.420
Can Glenis Barber do a Manchester accent?

857
01:02:45.539 --> 01:02:48.420
I don't think that's a prerequisite.

858
01:02:50.099 --> 01:02:52.739
That's the story, the Matrix, isn't it?

859
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.019
In the kind of rubbish matrix sequels, isn't that?

860
01:02:55.019 --> 01:03:00.360
Is that not the idea that there always has to be a chosen one that they try to bring down?

861
01:03:00.420 --> 01:03:01.320
I thought you meant the phrases.

862
01:03:01.380 --> 01:03:05.280
Oh, yeah.

863
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:12.780
I think Lake 7 casts a much longer shadow than a lot of people would think. over other series, not does a few that talk about it.

864
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:18.179
Maybe even ones that end with an odd number that were made in the 90s.

865
01:03:18.300 --> 01:03:26.579
I'm set aboard a spaceship that we could maybe I don't know if there was some kind of podcast going on that had a little bit of leftover, extra time.

866
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:28.739
They could do some an episode or two.

867
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:31.199
We are not doing Stargate SG1.

868
01:03:34.860 --> 01:03:38.639
I really want to do galloping galaxies, but nobody's up to that.

869
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:45.420
But we have got other episodes up our sleeve.

870
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:57.119
Not quite a series E, but a series D-A. One of which is going to be about the footprint of it's got a better name than that of Blake 7. and what it inspired.

871
01:03:57.179 --> 01:03:58.559
Yeah, what it continues to inspire.

872
01:03:58.619 --> 01:04:00.239
So that'll be an interesting conversation to have.

873
01:04:00.300 --> 01:04:03.480
We've got our end of series review to come before that, though.

874
01:04:03.539 --> 01:04:12.360
Yeah, our series D retrospective and I look at Bick Finish and books and all the ephemera of Blake 7 as well.

875
01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:17.340
Hopefully someone will read Avon a terrible aspect so that I don't have to read it ever again.

876
01:04:18.179 --> 01:04:20.639
You have read it. have read it.

877
01:04:20.699 --> 01:04:22.500
Well, that's another episode.

878
01:04:25.739 --> 01:04:34.619
Yes, so the credits role with the sound of gumfire before we go back into the Ronnie Hazlehurst...

879
01:04:34.619 --> 01:04:36.360
Oh, the 1st time of the scene.

880
01:04:36.420 --> 01:04:45.300
And there was such a missed moment because if any episode of this year deserved the original theme coming back, the end credits.

881
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:50.820
It was this one And suddenly, to go into the, the, bollocks.

882
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:51.420
Bollocks?

883
01:04:51.420 --> 01:04:52.199
Again, sorry.

884
01:04:52.260 --> 01:04:52.920
Sorry.

885
01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:53.400
Sorry.

886
01:04:53.460 --> 01:04:55.860
There should have been no music at all.

887
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:57.360
It should have just been...

888
01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:58.139
Like earth shock.

889
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:06.539
Yeah, but like not with like, uh, I don't know, uh, Aurax activating chip, just on the ground.

890
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.260
But no, just like it really jars.

891
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:14.880
As your right side, it should have been the original theme and not this the Ron Hazelhurst version.

892
01:05:14.940 --> 01:05:17.880
Or else just the alarm still going all the way through.

893
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:21.360
Or the wind, all the sound effects that Elizabeth Parker did.

894
01:05:21.420 --> 01:05:22.019
It should have been that.

895
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.360
So yeah, that winds me up as well.

896
01:05:24.420 --> 01:05:25.139
Yeah.

897
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:29.159
The ballroom dancing version.

898
01:05:29.219 --> 01:05:35.579
Well, yeah, the listeners have been spared your rants about the series theme.

899
01:05:35.820 --> 01:05:39.059
It was spared by rants forevermore because that's it.

900
01:05:42.539 --> 01:05:45.119
The title sequence of shit as well.

901
01:05:48.659 --> 01:05:51.719
What have you got against pitching your?

902
01:05:52.500 --> 01:05:54.480
Very educational.

903
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:03.239
That's it.

904
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:03.960
Cool.

905
01:06:04.019 --> 01:06:04.800
We've done it.

906
01:06:05.099 --> 01:06:08.099
Mark, we've survived it for the 1st time.

907
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:10.980
Yeah, no, you've made a new fan.

908
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:12.539
There we go.

909
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:15.059
That's one more saleable blue race to come.

910
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:16.500
Yes.

911
01:06:16.500 --> 01:06:18.780
If you turned out to, if you just hated it, Mark.

912
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:20.099
Really awkward.

913
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:21.719
I know, that's it.

914
01:06:21.780 --> 01:06:24.840
Middle of series 2, you would have had to stop, you would have been able to keep faking it.

915
01:06:24.900 --> 01:06:29.340
He'd left and we'd had to replace him with another...

916
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:34.019
Your contract's only up till series 2.

917
01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:35.219
After that you could go.

918
01:06:36.420 --> 01:06:38.880
You suddenly became a cockney after that.

919
01:06:38.940 --> 01:06:41.099
No, but nobody ever mentioned why.

920
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.840
If I'm a podcast, sir, sir, all are you.

921
01:06:48.900 --> 01:06:51.119
Any last words before we sign off?

922
01:06:51.179 --> 01:06:59.940
It has been a pleasure doing this with all of you, and thank you to everyone that has contributed from all of our contributors, and it's just been a real hoot.

923
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:00.780
I loved it.

924
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:01.260
Yeah.

925
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:02.099
Yeah.

926
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:07.440
All of our, all of, thank you so much to everyone who's contributed to everyone who's participated, everyone who's interacted with us on Twitter.

927
01:07:07.500 --> 01:07:10.320
Everyone who shared the gifts, the gifts are still out there.

928
01:07:10.380 --> 01:07:13.800
I'm going to find ways for them to be preserved forever.

929
01:07:13.860 --> 01:07:16.079
Thank you to you guys for including me.

930
01:07:16.139 --> 01:07:17.340
It's been really fun.

931
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:19.920
I've really enjoyed the series and even more.

932
01:07:19.980 --> 01:07:23.400
I've enjoyed talking to you all about it So, yeah, thanks to everyone.

933
01:07:23.460 --> 01:07:25.139
All it took was a space plague.

934
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:26.880
Sending on.

935
01:07:26.940 --> 01:07:27.300
Yeah.

936
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.000
Thank you for COVID.

937
01:07:30.179 --> 01:07:40.559
And I would just like to say a big thank you to Colin for having the conversations before we started to say, come on, Si, we should just do a Blake 7 podcast.

938
01:07:40.619 --> 01:07:43.079
Let's go do this and let's do it properly.

939
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:44.639
And you know what?

940
01:07:44.699 --> 01:07:46.679
I'm really proud of what we've done.

941
01:07:46.739 --> 01:07:50.280
I think we've done this series justice at last.

942
01:07:50.460 --> 01:07:55.860
It's been so much fun and I've loved sharing it with you and all the Australian crew as well.

943
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:57.000
It's absolutely.

944
01:07:57.059 --> 01:07:58.619
It's been amazing.

945
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:00.719
Yeah. loved it.

946
01:08:00.780 --> 01:08:01.800
Definitely.

947
01:08:01.860 --> 01:08:02.460
Fantastic.

948
01:08:02.579 --> 01:08:03.960
Right?

949
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:10.800
Thank you very much, everyone, for listening, and I hope you've enjoyed our look at Blake.

950
01:08:10.860 --> 01:08:12.059
We'll be back.

951
01:08:12.179 --> 01:08:13.260
Oh.

952
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.500
We will be back somehow.

953
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:17.220
We'll be back.

954
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:31.859
We'll be back for the retrospective of series D and I look back over the 13 episodes and I look back over all 52 episodes as well, as Pete mentioned, still several episodes to come.

955
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:33.420
So you've not rid of us yet.

956
01:08:36.300 --> 01:08:42.119
We got through Blake and I'd just like to say, thank you very much for listening and goodbye.

957
01:08:42.180 --> 01:08:42.960
Bye.

958
01:08:43.020 --> 01:08:43.319
Bye.

959
01:08:43.380 --> 01:08:43.859
Bye bye.