WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 22:15:28 1 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:24.000 Welcome to Maximum Power, the podcast that hopes you're feeling bucolic because we're heading to the island of Dr. Moore, you, where the wild things are really quite peeved this week. 2 00:00:24.059 --> 00:00:29.699 And if anyone's got the wrong opinion, I'm going to make sure you sit in the magic chair of plot adjustments. so you have been warned. 3 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:35.700 We're joined for this experience by a panel of genetically engineered fluffy monstrosities that had better introduce ourselves. 4 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:36.420 I'm Pete. 5 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:37.439 I'm Mark. 6 00:00:37.500 --> 00:00:38.700 I'm Nathan. 7 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:40.380 And I'm Peter with an R. 8 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:42.479 With a... 9 00:00:42.899 --> 00:00:50.100 Now, Mark, you have just had the remarkable experience of watching animals for the 1st time quite recently. 10 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:54.179 To quote Justin, have you recovered, and do you need a stimulant? 11 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.539 Yeah, it's a really odd one, isn't it? 12 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.240 It's, um, I don't know where to start, actually. 13 00:01:01.740 --> 00:01:05.519 That's why every review ever started on animals. 14 00:01:05.700 --> 00:01:07.980 You mentioned Dr. Moreau. 15 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:09.359 I totally hadn't picked up on that. 16 00:01:09.420 --> 00:01:14.459 I was kind of thinking, is just in, who is that his 1st name or his surname? 17 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:16.200 It's never... 18 00:01:16.260 --> 00:01:18.060 He's like Madonna. 19 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:19.140 He's just got one name. 20 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:22.019 He's probably got his own font. 21 00:01:23.579 --> 00:01:32.219 When the people at the Federation are looking him up, like the systems at my work, if someone said, look up Justin, it would be like, well, is that 1st name or a surname? 22 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.879 So they're obviously quite sophisticated systems, they can just find them based on that. 23 00:01:35.939 --> 00:01:36.599 V. 24 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:36.959 Justin. 25 00:01:37.019 --> 00:01:38.459 The scientist. 26 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:48.420 I was thinking he was maybe a bit inspired by Davros because he's sort of genetically engineering creatures to survive in a nuclear irradiated place. 27 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:53.340 So I thought maybe that was kind of, I don't, totally stupid, they hadn't thought about HE Wells. 28 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:56.280 So I was just thinking he was kind of just like a horny Davros. 29 00:01:57.780 --> 00:02:00.120 And the creatures are horny as well. 30 00:02:00.180 --> 00:02:01.620 Everybody's horny on buccle. 31 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:03.959 On a planet with no ladies. 32 00:02:04.019 --> 00:02:05.219 I don't know how that's gonna pan out. 33 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:08.340 You love him, Dana. 34 00:02:11.340 --> 00:02:15.539 Nathan, you were saying you're a bit more seasoned and appreciator of this episode. 35 00:02:15.780 --> 00:02:33.659 Yes, it occurs to me that I'm in just a very few years time going to buy it for the 3rd time, having bought it on VHS back in the sort of early 1990s, and having seen it even before then, of course, when it 1st came out. 36 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:36.360 Um, it's really terrible, isn't it? 37 00:02:36.419 --> 00:02:38.639 Like really quite an astonishing piece of work. 38 00:02:38.699 --> 00:02:41.699 There's really nothing about it that works at all. 39 00:02:41.699 --> 00:02:44.099 And poor old Mary Ridge, who normally does a good job. 40 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.639 I don't know she's just given up, I think, at this point. 41 00:02:47.699 --> 00:02:56.099 And it's the rarest thing in Blake Seven, which is an embarrassing performance by Jassette Simon, who is. 42 00:02:56.099 --> 00:02:56.879 Oh, yes, absolutely. 43 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:03.599 Like, in any measure, the best actor on the show at this point, but she can't make this work at all. 44 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:14.879 You know, I think the double whammy of this and Stardrive last week is what gives season 4, its relatively poorer reputation compared to the other three. 45 00:03:14.939 --> 00:03:20.580 I think if you take these 2 woeful episodes out of a mix, you'd probably have a season that matches up to its predecessors. 46 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:26.460 So who knew that going to the writers of volcano and dawn of the gods and saying more, please, could possibly go wrong. 47 00:03:27.900 --> 00:03:31.680 This is very probably the worst episode of Blake 7. 48 00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:34.080 Just for all round ineptitude. 49 00:03:34.139 --> 00:03:42.780 I mean, Nathan mentioned Mary Ridge, who usually does such a sterling job, but sort of, you know, mucks up some quite important bits in this episode. 50 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:53.699 I think the show's become a parody of itself, which it never was, sort of anyone would come to this and watch and go, these are dumb ideas and a boring script, poor production. 51 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:59.580 Um, poor design and costuming choices, which are just weird and OTT. 52 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:01.979 The main guest role is poorly cast. 53 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:08.340 It's just, it's pretty much unrecognisable as the series that gave us terminal or even rescue a couple of weeks ago. 54 00:04:08.819 --> 00:04:12.840 Yeah, it is, it is stunning that this is the same director as terminal. 55 00:04:12.900 --> 00:04:15.120 I mean, but what can you do? 56 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:27.480 With, and and Gisette's performance is, one of the things I felt watching it in the early things, she's perfectly good at being, uh, you know, the discussed. 57 00:04:27.540 --> 00:04:42.959 Her initial discussed is delivered so sincerely and convincingly that when the script then requires her to go, oh, actually, all right, then, later on, and she does, because that's what the script requires her to do, because it doesn't feel like it's based on much other than just hanging around with him and we'll have to talk about that. 58 00:04:43.019 --> 00:04:51.120 Um, that when she flips from very convincingly being disgusted by the whole thing, to not being anymore, even before Servoland puts her in the magic chair. 59 00:04:51.180 --> 00:04:58.199 Um, it, yeah, you've convinced me of one thing and now you're convincing me that you've changed, but nothing really made you change apart from the magic chair. 60 00:04:58.379 --> 00:05:07.259 It wasn't clear what she was disgusted by because she's discussed before she knows that they experimented on humans. 61 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:16.500 It feels like, but then she seems to warm up to him when he said, I bitterly regret the fact that we experimented on humans because of the deserters, weren't they, from the war, I think. 62 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:26.459 Which I thought the war was like, it seems like the war, as described here, was this much longer conflict. 63 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:31.439 I thought it was like, it was when the aliens came through at the end of the 2nd series, is that right? 64 00:05:31.500 --> 00:05:33.180 Yeah, that's the war they're talking about. 65 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:44.339 It's only a few weeks ago in episode, in terms of the hours of them that we've seen, but yeah, it feels like it was. like a day or something, it was like, because it's all over by the beginning of the next series. 66 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.560 Like how long was the conflict supposed to go on for? 67 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:52.980 Because the way they're talking about, they were setting up like places like this to develop, you know, weapons and things. 68 00:05:52.980 --> 00:05:56.699 Was it a much longer conflict than I'd understood from the series? 69 00:05:56.819 --> 00:06:00.360 Convincing timelines have never been late 7s thing. 70 00:06:00.420 --> 00:06:07.439 So you had that massive gap that happens before Star one. where essentially the liberator heads off to Star one immediately. 71 00:06:07.500 --> 00:06:14.279 And yet apparently in that gap between the keeper and Star one, Travis's contacted the Star one pizza monsters. 72 00:06:14.339 --> 00:06:18.180 He's like put this whole, like this whole thing in train. 73 00:06:18.180 --> 00:06:23.339 And then for some reason at the end of the episode, it only takes the Federation forces, like 4 hours to get there. 74 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:28.019 It's never been very good with playing around with kind of the time frame of what happens in this series. 75 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:32.160 And it's not very clear what even we're talking about. 76 00:06:32.220 --> 00:06:38.339 I mean, there's clearly a character thing where Justin doesn't approve of Dana's guns. 77 00:06:38.339 --> 00:06:43.980 And he is given a line saying that the galactic war was a terrible, terrible mistake. 78 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:48.480 And it's kind of like we were attacked by the contents of an entire kitchen drawer. 79 00:06:48.540 --> 00:06:52.560 I mean, we didn't have the choice about whether to fight back or not. 80 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.620 You know, it wasn't like some bad political mistake. 81 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:59.399 It's as if no one really knows what happened at the end of series 2. 82 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:01.439 And it is very strange. 83 00:07:01.500 --> 00:07:06.420 Yeah, it's like we saw World War 2 on screen and Dunkirk and everything. 84 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:11.699 And but then now they're talking about it as if it was World War one and it was all, what was it really for? 85 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:13.860 Well, it was to prevent you all being annihilated. 86 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:14.459 Yeah. 87 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.240 Tantalisingly through watching this. 88 00:07:24.300 --> 00:07:34.620 I don't know, it's because I've been on too many podcasts, but you're seeing the draft scripts where there was a thing, surely there was a version of this in my mind's eye way, that was more rounded out. 89 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.220 Well they just put in a line about the age gap or something to clarify. 90 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.639 She had a crush on him. when she was young. 91 00:07:41.699 --> 00:07:44.339 But they don't. 92 00:07:44.339 --> 00:07:46.379 Any ideas? 93 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:56.220 I think it's useful to look at the production history of this episode because obviously this was written when Jan Chappel was still supposed to be part of the series D cast. 94 00:07:56.279 --> 00:08:04.980 And so the original scripts were written for Callie, which would make more sense with Callie, sort of having a relationship with Justin's, with someone with just his age. 95 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.439 Not a whole lot more sense, still icky, but more sense. 96 00:08:07.620 --> 00:08:28.439 And I think also the strange revisionist history that's put on to Dana, the fact that we thought that she was alone with her father on the planet, but now we find out that she had tutors coming to, um, you know, school her and things, and she suddenly has these really strong misgivings about genetic experimentation and things which have never been party to. 97 00:08:28.500 --> 00:08:33.480 But I think that is something that would have been sounded more convincing coming from Cali. 98 00:08:33.539 --> 00:08:51.539 Um, I think that's part of the problem, why Dana doesn't work in this episode and why, um, Josette Simon's performances off because she's being asked to do stuff which is out of character, but also which no one could really deliver because it's too overwrought and dramatic. 99 00:08:51.659 --> 00:08:56.879 I think what the missed opportunity here was, was to not make it a Sulin episode. 100 00:08:56.940 --> 00:09:04.379 So you really needed Su Lin to be part of this so you could showcase her, um, give her screen time and backstory. 101 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:12.779 That would have taken away the ickiness around Justin and Dana's relationship, although it would have cast dispersions on Swulin's taste in men following Dorian. 102 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.840 So, I mean, let's let's think about this. 103 00:09:15.899 --> 00:09:19.620 Josette is 20 at this point. 104 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:22.440 She's 19 who plays justice. 105 00:09:22.500 --> 00:09:23.879 He's 53. 106 00:09:25.019 --> 00:09:28.620 And he spent 20 years in Dixon of Dot Green. 107 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:32.639 So he looks, I think he looks older than he really is. 108 00:09:32.700 --> 00:09:35.279 Wow, even I would have been tired after. 109 00:09:35.580 --> 00:09:46.500 But, but the, I mean, the thing is that we're told that he set up this thing 6 years before the galactic war. 110 00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:49.799 The Galactic War is a year ago, let's say. 111 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:54.539 And so for 7 years, he's been on Buccol 2 doing this thing. 112 00:09:54.600 --> 00:10:15.600 And so presumably he came to visit, um, uh, the Mellon Bee family when she was 13 or which is more likely no one gives a shit and everyone kind of thinks that Gisette looks older than she is because they're slightly racist and everyone thinks that about black people. 113 00:10:15.659 --> 00:10:17.100 Do you know what I mean? 114 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:22.679 Like, it's just, there's just a sort of failure to care about the characters at all. here. 115 00:10:22.740 --> 00:10:28.919 And you don't think that you could have revised it in some way to make it a crush or to make. 116 00:10:29.700 --> 00:10:30.600 Yeah, yeah. 117 00:10:30.659 --> 00:10:33.120 Or like it doesn't have to be love, love. 118 00:10:33.179 --> 00:10:39.299 Like, he's an uncle or a relative or a friend of the father's, you know, like, it doesn't... 119 00:10:39.299 --> 00:10:42.120 Because Blake went there with Inga, his cousin not too long ago. 120 00:10:42.179 --> 00:10:49.259 It's kind of, it's getting into a... 2 nickels situation every time I'm being really weird about an age gap happened. 121 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:54.240 I didn't realise, yeah, just that Simon was that was that young. 122 00:10:54.299 --> 00:10:57.120 It's like in reverse President Macaron, that, isn't it? 123 00:10:57.179 --> 00:10:58.559 He was 15 when he met his wife. 124 00:10:58.620 --> 00:11:00.240 She was 40 and she was a teacher. 125 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:01.559 Yeah, yeah. 126 00:11:01.620 --> 00:11:02.220 Yeah. 127 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.159 It's wrong both ways. 128 00:11:05.220 --> 00:11:09.960 If the casting of Justin had have been a little bit more thinking about the script. 129 00:11:10.019 --> 00:11:20.700 I am not saying it would have made the relationship right, but if you'd made him kind of a fair bit younger and, you know, very attractive, say, a Jeffrey Burridge, and Dorian, you could fully understand why Dana would have had a crush in him. 130 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:29.639 Pensteadi just comes across as this kind of like greying civil servant with a weird tiny Donald Trump mouth and you just think, oh, on all levels. 131 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.820 I'm trying to think what other actor he reminded me of. 132 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:38.940 And then I realised it's one of the extras from Thunderbirds just has those exact eyebrows and gin situations. 133 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:40.320 It reminds me of a puppet. 134 00:11:40.379 --> 00:11:41.759 I don't mean these marriages. 135 00:11:41.820 --> 00:11:46.139 Maybe they only had 2 faces for him, concerned, and then leering at Dana. 136 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.620 Yeah, and yeah, and he did, that was played, wasn't it? 137 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:50.700 That was not... 138 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:54.960 With that moment where he says, I don't think I'd want your group involved. 139 00:11:55.019 --> 00:11:59.159 And Dana gives his back this long, lingering, smutty smile. 140 00:11:59.220 --> 00:12:01.620 I almost threw up a Star one pizza monster on the floor. 141 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:02.700 It was disgusting. 142 00:12:03.299 --> 00:12:05.039 Disgusting. 143 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:07.200 This is disgusting. 144 00:12:07.259 --> 00:12:07.620 Yeah. 145 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:14.759 The way I thought of it was that she'd met very few men when she was living with her father. 146 00:12:15.659 --> 00:12:17.159 That's it. 147 00:12:17.220 --> 00:12:18.539 That's okay then. 148 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:24.779 But yeah, we could they could try and pin it on Miranda from The Tempest, but they don't try. 149 00:12:25.019 --> 00:12:25.679 They don't even. 150 00:12:25.740 --> 00:12:27.000 Yeah, they don't even bother, do they? 151 00:12:27.059 --> 00:12:27.240 Yeah. 152 00:12:27.299 --> 00:12:32.820 Well, I mean, she kisses Avon for the 1st time to kind of see what it's like back in aftermath. 153 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:38.159 She's clearly intended at that point. to have never met a man. 154 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:43.320 She was just intending to kiss someone who was a fool 10 years younger to see what that was like. 155 00:12:43.500 --> 00:12:46.019 He's got his own teeth. 156 00:12:51.600 --> 00:13:01.860 Look, we'll get we'll get to Servilan and Sleer as well, but I think also having Dana in this episode fucks up those scenes because, you know, you love him, Dana. 157 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.460 You love him. those scenes, which are just, you know, an issue all to themselves. 158 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:09.960 It's that you have two, you have scenes between 2 characters with a load of history. 159 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:19.679 And the last time that they came properly face to face, if you discount terminal and the brief moment in Chaser, was in Death Watch, where they had an entire scene about the history behind them. 160 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:20.519 And it was really important. 161 00:13:20.580 --> 00:13:21.960 But here you get no sense of that. 162 00:13:22.019 --> 00:13:23.879 It's just entirely plot driven and who cares? 163 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.879 Yeah, she wants to kill her, doesn't she? 164 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:29.279 But you wouldn't know him for that. 165 00:13:29.340 --> 00:13:30.299 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 166 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:33.360 Yeah, Zervlin is the most, the person she despises most in the whole universe. 167 00:13:33.419 --> 00:13:35.639 But yeah, yeah, that's just not not included. 168 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:37.200 We have skipped over. 169 00:13:37.259 --> 00:13:43.980 Of a Terence, a little bit of excitement at the start of the episode, kick things off with his battle. 170 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:52.500 I'm noticed I think this season, slave now tells them numbers to type into their computers to steer the ship. 171 00:13:52.500 --> 00:14:02.340 The reversal of how it was in series one where Gan would often, Blake would give Gan instructions and just like Sigourney Weaver and Galaxy Quest, Gan had to relay the instructions to Zen to set the course. 172 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:04.679 There's now been a shift in that workload. 173 00:14:04.740 --> 00:14:07.679 Are you equating the character of slave to the character of Gan? 174 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.620 Well, that sounds something. 175 00:14:10.620 --> 00:14:12.899 Slave just needs a big cape. 176 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:16.379 I do like the fact that slave isn't certain of things. 177 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.840 So when Terrence says we need coordinates to get out of here. 178 00:14:18.899 --> 00:14:20.879 Slave has to go, oh, hang on a sec. 179 00:14:20.940 --> 00:14:22.320 Do you like that? 180 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:26.460 I mean, I actually quite like those scenes. 181 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:38.279 I think that the way that they do the model shots is just deplorably bad, uh, deciding to sort of do them against a green screen and sometimes to just move the camera instead of moving the model. 182 00:14:38.340 --> 00:14:40.799 Like all of that stuff looks incredibly cheap. 183 00:14:40.860 --> 00:14:49.200 There's a lot of shots where it just looks like an explosion is happening slightly behind the ship for the most surprising reasons. 184 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.779 And so all of that, it's a little bit crap. 185 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:59.879 Those panels, which sort of look-ish, sort of look okay. 186 00:14:59.940 --> 00:15:11.220 Um, until you actually type on them, they're kind of like those horrible membrane keyboards on a ZX 81. you know, because they bend really badly. 187 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:12.960 You know, they don't really move. 188 00:15:13.019 --> 00:15:19.919 Like there's one or 2 sort of fabulous chunky metal levers, but otherwise, they, it, you know, you're there typing buttons in. 189 00:15:19.980 --> 00:15:25.500 There's nothing sort of fun or visceral or exciting about using those controls to move the ship. 190 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:27.600 And so none of that really works. 191 00:15:27.659 --> 00:15:38.220 I mean, you know, again, um, Stephen Pacey is so much fun to watch, but I kind of don't care, and I was certainly enjoying that scene, uh, because of him. 192 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:49.080 But, uh, Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like they sent their 2 best guys off, uh, and then sort of separated them at the beginning, but uh, it's still not a great scene, is it? 193 00:15:49.139 --> 00:15:53.039 The video effects continue to be a massive problem this season. 194 00:15:53.100 --> 00:15:57.059 On the occasions that we see actual film footage of Scorpio. 195 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:04.200 Like when it's kind of in orbit with sort of the standard series D planet behind it and it's got the little winking light on it. 196 00:16:04.259 --> 00:16:05.879 That's actually film footage, and it looks amazing. 197 00:16:05.940 --> 00:16:07.980 It looks as good as anything else in the series. 198 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:16.019 But the mysterious decision to take the film footage and then superimpose it on video starfields and explosions. 199 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.860 It just makes it look diabolically cheap, like the worst children's program. 200 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:33.299 I felt like it didn't really fit with Terence character that he listened to Avon when even ordered him to come back for repairs and he was talking about rescuing Dana. 201 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:48.240 I think in the previous series, he was a bit more kind of headstrong and would, you know, kind of rail against Avon being in charge a little bit, where he seems to have accepted it a bit more here and just kind of, you know, heads back when he's ordered to. 202 00:16:48.299 --> 00:16:54.299 Yeah, I mean, 2 weeks ago he disobeyed Avon and stayed behind on the planet to sort of save people. 203 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:54.779 Yeah, yeah. 204 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:55.980 To save Dana again. 205 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:56.580 Yeah, yeah. 206 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:58.679 That is, yeah, 2 weeks apart. 207 00:16:58.740 --> 00:17:00.240 We having episodes with just those two. 208 00:17:00.299 --> 00:17:05.819 And I, you know, was everyone else finishing off a theatre run or something and unavailable for shooting? 209 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:11.759 I don't know, but this episode, I'm the one, and Drater are both very heavily Dana Tarrant episodes. 210 00:17:11.819 --> 00:17:28.380 I mean, I think what it probably is, is that Dana was the female character who they still had and they hadn't really established Su Lin. and so rather than foregrounding Su Lin, like they should have done in this episode, they just pushed Dana into female lead, generic female lead in every episode. 211 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:30.599 So in Stardrive, it's her and Villa. 212 00:17:30.660 --> 00:17:32.880 This week it's her and Terence at the start. 213 00:17:32.940 --> 00:17:34.319 Traitor, it's her and Tarrant. 214 00:17:34.380 --> 00:17:38.940 It's a bit mystifying that Avon is pushed into the background for these 3 episodes. 215 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:58.619 And in fact, this episode in Stardrive, both feature Dana going off into kind of the villain's lair and then having Tarrant, Avon, and Sulin teleport down and traipse sort of really slowly through landscapes to come and find her. are really boring. 216 00:17:58.680 --> 00:17:59.819 You know, they're in life's problem. 217 00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:00.779 This should not have been Dana. 218 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:01.680 This should have been Zulin. 219 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:17.759 When you mentioned it was originally intended to be Cali, my mind went to the scene where Dana goes out to try and convince OG to come home and that would have made sense if she was using telepathy to try and calm him and influence him. 220 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:24.420 Because she's using that kind of almost like soothing his hypnotic kind of tone, isn't she, to try and get it. 221 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:25.980 But I thought that scene. 222 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:33.119 I kind of gasped a little bit when when he swept her off the cliff, it is quite a sudden dramatic thing, the way that's directed it. 223 00:18:33.180 --> 00:18:34.559 I felt like that was quite effective. 224 00:18:34.619 --> 00:18:36.900 And Joe said he's good in that scene. 225 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:42.960 I thought it was a good scene, but the dummy was just so, obviously, no, I'm afraid. 226 00:18:43.019 --> 00:18:43.799 I'm afraid of that. 227 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:45.660 I burst out, I laughed out loud, I'm afraid. 228 00:18:46.500 --> 00:18:49.380 Because it is like, quick cut away. 229 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.019 They cut back and he's chucking a dummy up down the thing. 230 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:53.579 I put it, it was dramatic. 231 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.279 But I also, but like she's all, I'll go and talk to him. 232 00:18:56.339 --> 00:18:57.000 Maybe he'll trust me. 233 00:18:57.059 --> 00:19:03.779 I'm like, love, you met him 10 minutes ago and you shot one of his mates in the face. in the very 1st scene. 234 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.920 She meets him, she says hello. and then she turns around, there's another one behind her and she just goes, uh, and shoots it in the face. 235 00:19:07.980 --> 00:19:09.779 And like, kills it. 236 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:12.299 And the lady says, oh, yeah, killed a couple of them. 237 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:15.059 Um, so it's like, why, why, yeah. 238 00:19:15.180 --> 00:19:25.079 That idea would make sense, though, Callie might have think, well, okay, despite shooting one of you, uh, I might be able to, uh, yeah, to, Well, Kelly was always the thinker of the group. 239 00:19:25.140 --> 00:19:30.000 And so it would have made sense, her sort of her objections to genetic experimentation and things like that. 240 00:19:33.059 --> 00:19:38.400 I just think they must have been in such a hurry to get the series up and running again. 241 00:19:38.460 --> 00:19:41.759 I don't know why Chris Boucher didn't do more to this script. 242 00:19:41.819 --> 00:19:54.900 It seems almost unforgivable that he would let this script through with so many glaring issues when even just a rewrite of some scenes would have brought it further into line with the characters who we know. 243 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.920 I mean, there is a serious kind of production problem at this point, isn't it? 244 00:19:58.980 --> 00:20:08.819 Which is why there is such a massive increase in quality in the 2nd recording block when everyone gets out of their stupid clothes. 245 00:20:08.819 --> 00:20:14.880 When when Dana starts dressing up like slave, then everything suddenly gets really good. 246 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:16.859 She really does. 247 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:18.480 A purple version of slave. 248 00:20:18.539 --> 00:20:20.819 All she needed was the collar to be moving round. 249 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:26.880 Even the name for the creature's animals is really weak, isn't it? 250 00:20:26.940 --> 00:20:32.339 Like, I just, it, why not give them a name if you've created a new species? 251 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:33.480 Why would you not name it? 252 00:20:33.539 --> 00:20:34.619 Why would you just call them animals? 253 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:38.940 It's so unimaginative and how would you differentiate that from the other animals on the planet? 254 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:46.200 Well, I mean, I, they should call them dodecimas because they can do 2 more things. 255 00:20:46.259 --> 00:20:47.339 Don't you think? 256 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:48.720 I think that would be, yeah. 257 00:20:48.779 --> 00:20:51.059 I think they all should be called OGs. 258 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:54.839 And in fact, there's a very low effort name as well. 259 00:20:55.500 --> 00:21:03.180 One of my 1st conversations ever with Kate Orman back in like 1988 when we were talking about Blake 7. 260 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:13.920 She relayed the story that she'd been watching Animals the 1st time and her mother, who's a fabulous and very entertaining woman, walked into the room, watched for a few seconds and said, his name's not really Og, is it? 261 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:15.720 And then... 262 00:21:24.779 --> 00:21:42.059 So, okay, to his credit, one thing that I like is that you do get a nice little explainer from Dana when she's, oh, that could be a thing, when she's, when she's finally, when she is with Juthen, and she turns around and gives him the whole, actually we're here for this drug thing, we wanted to recruit a genius. 263 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:48.059 We've kind of done, we have done a cold open with her and Tarrant on this mission and we don't know why. 264 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:55.680 And when she gets there and she explains it all, it's about that drug from a couple of weeks ago, which I was sceptical about, I thought, oh, they're never going to mention this again, and I've been proved wrong. 265 00:21:55.740 --> 00:21:58.920 I'd forgotten that it does actually come back as a thing. 266 00:21:58.980 --> 00:22:02.160 So, yeah, people have started doing stuff. 267 00:22:02.339 --> 00:22:06.180 The dialogue is also, and if we get, should we move on to Serverland? 268 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.559 Because in this, uh, Servoland gets the most, some of the most perfunctory dialogues. 269 00:22:10.619 --> 00:22:12.480 There's one scene where all of her lines. 270 00:22:12.539 --> 00:22:13.380 I started writing them down. 271 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.240 The lines are just like, used for what? 272 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:16.440 anymore. 273 00:22:16.500 --> 00:22:18.960 I mean, she was a bit like that in volcano as well. 274 00:22:19.019 --> 00:22:20.339 She didn't have anything interesting to say. 275 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:24.180 I think there is one very, very good scene with her. 276 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:29.759 And that is where, um, Hang on, Nathan, I'll just interrupt you. 277 00:22:29.819 --> 00:22:32.460 Is it the scene where she says, you love him, Dana? 278 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:35.339 You love him. said that's him. absolutely not. 279 00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:39.240 It's where she gives artists. 280 00:22:39.299 --> 00:22:48.119 She gives Kevin Stoney to the captain to sort of be taken off the bridge and then she calls Boar and says he never arrived. 281 00:22:48.180 --> 00:22:54.660 And so that's how we find out that she's going to have him killed because she actually makes the phone call. 282 00:22:54.779 --> 00:23:00.059 She FaceTimes a bore before she's actually killed him and said he never arrived. 283 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:08.700 And then she says, uh, you need to be careful because you didn't file a flight plan and uh, you could be blamed for this. 284 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:15.420 And I just thought, you know, that's her being absolutely as superb and fantastic as you would ever hope for. 285 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:19.200 That and the feathers, like the feather out there. 286 00:23:19.259 --> 00:23:22.680 They're the 2 they're the 2 pluses in the serverland column. 287 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:24.900 Feathers are very unflattering to her arms, I think. 288 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:26.279 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 289 00:23:26.339 --> 00:23:27.000 Tuck shop. 290 00:23:27.059 --> 00:23:31.559 I have to say that scene with artists is the one good scene in the entire episode. 291 00:23:31.619 --> 00:23:36.000 It's just, and you know, Kevin Stoney is always amazing, which she is here. 292 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:48.240 It's just it was a pity for me that they couldn't have found a way to make that character, Counsellor Joban, who is Kevin Stoney's character in hostage, also written by Alan Pryor. 293 00:23:49.140 --> 00:23:52.680 I guess it doesn't really matter though at this point, does it? 294 00:23:52.740 --> 00:23:54.839 Like no one's expecting that from Blake Salmon. 295 00:23:54.900 --> 00:24:00.359 And when Van Glynde comes along later, he's going to press on beard and is played by someone completely different. 296 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:04.500 I mean, it might be the story of this episode. doesn't really matter. 297 00:24:06.059 --> 00:24:12.420 I think also this is the episode which doesn't work for Commissioner Sleir. 298 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:16.559 So Traitor sets her up, but this is not a Sleer episode. 299 00:24:16.619 --> 00:24:18.299 This is a Servolan episode. 300 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:28.259 Servoland in series C freelancers with her like private command army and intimidates officials and all that kind of thing because she's the president. 301 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:43.440 Whereas this version of Sleer doesn't work for what's been established for Sleer, apparently, in the 6 months since Servlan was deposed and took on this alias, she's found time to like, you know, right standing orders for the bureau and stuff like that. 302 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.019 And it just, it doesn't work at all, I think. 303 00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:50.519 And that scene, the describer is a non-person. 304 00:24:50.579 --> 00:24:53.819 It's like it felt like an allusion to 1984, isn't it? 305 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.400 They have un-person in 1984. 306 00:24:56.579 --> 00:25:07.259 So it felt like it was a little tiny bit of world building about the way the Federation works and that it's a, you know, a bit kind of, you know, linking it to another totalitarian story like that. 307 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.259 It's pretty good, that scene, isn't it? 308 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:22.079 Where he clearly recognises her, but realises that it's absolutely, you know, likely to get him killed if he actually admits to it and he apologises and stuff. 309 00:25:22.140 --> 00:25:29.940 Like all of that stuff is really good and that does kind of depend on her secret identity, however preposterous that is. 310 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:43.740 I think, because we haven't seen who's replaced her in the Federation as well, so we don't know what the, the thinking is and what the orders, how she became a non-person and and any of that stuff, have we? 311 00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:48.180 So we don't know what the what the new power structure is or how she's managed to inveigle her way in. 312 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:50.220 But yeah, she hasn't changed her hairstyle. 313 00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:51.779 She still talks in exactly the same way. 314 00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:59.819 So even over, like a communicator or something, she talks in such an archway that a lot of people are just going to recognise that, aren't they? 315 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:01.559 unless everyone in the Federation's not like that. 316 00:26:01.619 --> 00:26:06.480 I mean, she's literally blind. 317 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:16.319 You think she's got on every communication that she sends, she's got one of those things in Traitor, where they try to hide her identity very unsuccessfully. by making her sound really deep. 318 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:20.400 Everyone who receives communication from Slayer. 319 00:26:20.460 --> 00:26:21.420 She sounds like that. 320 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:27.359 Yeah, I think she could have just like done a Yorkshire accent or something and that would... 321 00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:30.059 All of which makes the question, why did they do it? 322 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:38.039 Why did they not make it that Serveland got off deliberator, radioed for help, was picked up by a Federation ship and was back as president? 323 00:26:38.099 --> 00:26:42.839 Why go to all of this undercover stuff for no reason at all? 324 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:53.279 Because that this way she gets to have a lovely ship with its big beige regional newsroom kind of looking desk that does it behind, which is what she really wanted all along. 325 00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:56.099 And it's got those... plastic gold trimming. 326 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.779 It's so it's like a hotel room in the 1980s. 327 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.059 It's like travelling an Emirates business class. 328 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:03.839 Yes. 329 00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:05.759 It is like Emirates' business class. 330 00:27:07.019 --> 00:27:10.140 And Surfland ship from the outside, the model. 331 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.839 It is an improvement on her shark ship from series C. 332 00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:14.880 It's a flashlight. 333 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.180 The interior is so bland. 334 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.160 It's just like she's sitting in someone's living room. 335 00:27:20.220 --> 00:27:23.039 It's awful And she's got the lamps. 336 00:27:23.099 --> 00:27:24.539 Those lamps that are on the wall. 337 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:28.019 They're in Doctor Who throughout the 60s and 70s as well. 338 00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:34.200 Someone's been cataloguing them, and I can't remember who, I'll try and track them down, because they don't think they're in power of the Daleks. 339 00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:36.480 There's sort of Art Deco wall lamps. 340 00:27:36.539 --> 00:27:37.799 Keep an eye out for that one watching. 341 00:27:37.980 --> 00:27:42.000 But what about what about the new mutoids? 342 00:27:42.059 --> 00:27:49.259 I didn't like there were mutoids until on our chat before this that that Pete mentioned there were mutoids. 343 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.480 Well, we're assuming they're mutants. 344 00:27:51.539 --> 00:27:56.880 They do look like they've just sidled up to your desk and asked you if you're willing to sign Janet's birthday card. 345 00:27:56.940 --> 00:27:58.380 You know what I mean? 346 00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:05.880 Like, they're sort of middle-aged ladies with geometric bobs, and they don't move particularly quickly or gracefully or anything. 347 00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:08.339 They haven't been chosen for their athletic ability. 348 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:13.500 Is there anything, are they called mutoids or credited me or is that us knowing, is that us bringing that? 349 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:14.819 I don't think they called it. 350 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:16.079 I don't think the words used, is it? 351 00:28:16.140 --> 00:28:16.559 Is it? 352 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:18.359 They're probably mutoids mark 2. 353 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.180 Everyone knows mutoids have to have upturned pot plants on their head. 354 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:44.220 It's part of the ongoing design problems in series D. We mentioned it in rescue, how everything that was so special about Blake 7, like the incredible design for the liberated spaceship and the flight deck and the way that the Federation guards looked, you know, it all just had this incredible design ethos that worked and made it special. 355 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.980 And in series D when they've had to redesign everything from scratch. 356 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:51.359 It's all just been done with this kind of really unimaginative look. 357 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:56.099 And in the case of the mutoids, like just this bizarre kind of 80 star makeover. 358 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:03.960 They now look like toppler pops backing dancers, um, which sort of, actually, Justin's surname is probably Savile. 359 00:29:04.019 --> 00:29:06.900 So Justin Savile, it fits in just earlier. 360 00:29:11.700 --> 00:29:29.099 You must have started with men as well as animals, to get crossbreeds, is the great line from Dana, which paints, I'm not sure the picture they want to, because if they like, this was a breeding program, not just, not just the spiking of genes. 361 00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:35.039 She's specifically talking about breeding, which, you know, yeah, and they're on no radio. 362 00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:39.000 Maybe that's what turns Dana on, Justin's available for all comers. 363 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.839 What do we think of the animals? 364 00:29:42.900 --> 00:29:45.240 Like, what, what, what's going on with that? 365 00:29:45.299 --> 00:29:51.299 I mean, Pete, you mentioned that they look like the monsters from where the wild things are. 366 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.079 And they remind me of Animal from the Muppet Show as well. 367 00:29:55.140 --> 00:29:57.779 I mean, there's clearly some of that. 368 00:29:57.839 --> 00:29:58.799 Yeah. 369 00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:00.599 With a sort of big shaggy heads. 370 00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:04.440 Every time Dana comes here to see, she just needs to go menomena. 371 00:30:07.019 --> 00:30:09.480 But what do they think they're doing? 372 00:30:09.539 --> 00:30:12.539 It is Dr. Moreau as well too, isn't it? 373 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:13.380 As you said. 374 00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:22.019 Yeah, I felt I fell down a rabbit hole watching watching a film, a thing about the making of the 1990s Dr. Moreau movie with Marlon Brando. 375 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:28.500 And that like the fact that Marlon Brando is in the Justin role, the very old... 376 00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:32.519 Yeah, the anti-radiation horns, anti-radiation fur. 377 00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:35.579 What did the animal that he crossbred? 378 00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:41.279 you meant to believe him when he says all of his crew died or did he experiment on them and turn them into these creatures? 379 00:30:41.339 --> 00:30:42.539 I thought it was going to go there. 380 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.220 But it didn't bother. 381 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:54.900 There's nothing about their appearance that indicates that they could go into radiation zones, like nothing that would lead you to believe that they were particularly suited for that. 382 00:30:55.019 --> 00:30:59.819 They just look like odd animalistic creatures with big ruffs and horns. 383 00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:03.180 And they're not disgusting in the way that they need to be. 384 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:14.099 Like they need to be sort of, like, they need to be like decimas. you know, like, like, like with human features and things, but somehow repellent. 385 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.960 But because they're sort of mammalian and they, they have hair and and stuff like that. 386 00:31:19.019 --> 00:31:28.920 And because they just seem to be like, did someone chomp up a leopard at some point during creating them, like, like, like... 387 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.940 There's a lot of nylon involved in the pelt. 388 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:33.839 Do you know what I mean? 389 00:31:33.900 --> 00:31:36.359 Like they just, they just don't work at all. 390 00:31:36.420 --> 00:31:39.059 They just seem to be a massively dumb idea. 391 00:31:39.059 --> 00:31:41.279 And, and like, kind of cute, though. 392 00:31:41.339 --> 00:31:49.200 But, but you know, Doctor Who at the time is still coming up with really great monsters, you know, but they can't do it on Blake 7. 393 00:31:49.259 --> 00:31:53.519 I mean, we can thank our lucky stars that they didn't just turn up as a bunch of sea devils. 394 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:55.799 Yeah, what can we come there? 395 00:31:56.099 --> 00:31:58.619 That's also not just fact they look stupid. 396 00:31:58.680 --> 00:31:59.400 They sound stupid. 397 00:31:59.460 --> 00:32:00.539 It's the bellowing. 398 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:01.259 They don't roar. 399 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.720 They go, yeah, it's terrible. 400 00:32:04.019 --> 00:32:10.859 The thing I thought about their appearance was, they looked a bit like the QAnon Shaman from the General Crips. 401 00:32:11.460 --> 00:32:17.579 I wondered if he had been a fan of this story. inspiration to his look, you know. 402 00:32:17.700 --> 00:32:22.740 You can really imagine all entering the capital having a poo on Nancy Pelosi's desk, can't you? 403 00:32:23.940 --> 00:32:26.220 Oh, that's an insurrection. 404 00:32:28.500 --> 00:32:44.400 There's something about his eyes that they do elicit a little bit of sympathy, I think, when you see the close for his face, actually looks quite good and his eyes look kind of pleading and everything. pleased that they didn't cover up the human eyes, you know. 405 00:32:44.460 --> 00:32:46.859 I mean, it is just the decimas with the crying. 406 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.500 Yeah, but we're meant to pity them, aren't we? 407 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.720 Yeah, but that's quite easy. 408 00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:52.799 Too easy. 409 00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:55.920 When they roar, it sounds like they're saying no as well a bit, doesn't it? 410 00:32:55.980 --> 00:32:56.940 Like they're going, no. 411 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.460 What is Dana's connection to them? 412 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.579 Why does she feel so bonded to these creatures? 413 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:08.099 Like at the end, rather than worrying about all the people firing at each other over her head? 414 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:13.680 She runs over to try and free Og, like she's really invested in him, and I just don't get where this comes from. 415 00:33:13.740 --> 00:33:24.539 I thought it was because he was the leader, but because he's had one more brain operation than the rest of them, that he was slightly more advanced, uh, because he, he does seem to understand. 416 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:30.000 He shakes his head, doesn't he, when she says, you know, come back inside and we'll feed you and he sort of shakes. also threw her over a cliff. 417 00:33:30.059 --> 00:33:30.900 Yeah. 418 00:33:31.380 --> 00:33:36.359 But I thought he was key because there is a line in there, isn't there? 419 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:46.859 Something about, if you know, if you can get him to do to obey orders or whatever, the rest of them will follow because he's become the de facto leader because he's had one more brain augmentation. 420 00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:50.940 Like anyone in the production. 421 00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:05.400 Around this point, the rest of our cast do get a look in. 422 00:34:05.460 --> 00:34:15.840 We go back to back to base and we've got Avon Avilla and Sulin trying to help Tarrant fix the ship. 423 00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:22.139 A little bit of comedy band to act a little bit of comedy oboe music that recurs a few times in this. 424 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:27.659 I think even Dudley Simpson's kind of phoning it in this week. just a few little stabs here and there. 425 00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:31.739 It is an incredibly low effort B plot, isn't it? 426 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.760 Like it is just there to eat up running time and give them something to do. 427 00:34:35.820 --> 00:34:41.340 And like the, like the, like he goes down. 428 00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:42.420 I just don't understand. 429 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:44.940 He's going down into the tank to manipulate a thing. 430 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.199 He's just reaching into the tank. 431 00:34:46.260 --> 00:34:51.659 They just, he gets a little bit of a sort of schmear on his, on his new outfit and that's really it. 432 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:52.920 There's nothing funny. 433 00:34:52.980 --> 00:34:54.239 It's just not funny. 434 00:34:54.300 --> 00:34:56.460 There's one, one great bit. 435 00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:00.000 I think, where I even looks at him, him impassively. 436 00:35:00.059 --> 00:35:07.380 He looks at Villar impassively, and then we turn around and we see Sulin and she's just laughing at him already, which I think is, is okay. 437 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.059 Um, but gee, it's just dismal, isn't it? 438 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:16.559 So basically being said to clean up the slurry tanks. 439 00:35:16.619 --> 00:35:18.239 I wasn't quite sure what was going on. 440 00:35:18.300 --> 00:35:20.940 Basically, the toilet's blocked, Villa, you've got to climb it. 441 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.440 I don't know what that is. 442 00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:23.820 Like what's happening? 443 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:26.280 And they're so, their scenes are so low rent. 444 00:35:26.340 --> 00:35:31.320 They're just Blake 7 banter by numbers, which Alan Pryor was never really able to pull off. 445 00:35:31.380 --> 00:35:33.960 A bit about half a glass of wine. 446 00:35:34.019 --> 00:35:36.300 It's like... 447 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:42.900 It's almost funny. drunk all the wine in like 3 episodes because it was like the liberator, wasn't it? 448 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:47.579 It was like the liberator only with wine, you know, like before we had a room full of treasure. 449 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.420 We don't have that anymore, but we did at least have cupboards and cupboards full of Dorian's wine. 450 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.219 Now that's not there anymore. 451 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:54.900 So what have they got going for them? 452 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:55.800 Do you know what I mean? 453 00:35:55.860 --> 00:35:58.019 They've got Dr. Braxton Star Drive. 454 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.059 And a sort of fairly crappy teleport. 455 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.440 And so he's drunk all the wine and like, why can't he just go and get himself wine? 456 00:36:04.500 --> 00:36:05.400 Why, like, why? 457 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:06.659 Why does he have to? 458 00:36:06.659 --> 00:36:10.800 Bargain with... 459 00:36:10.860 --> 00:36:15.360 Yeah, he could nip off to earth on time distort 12 and be back by, you know, the same day. 460 00:36:15.420 --> 00:36:17.880 Well, the ship's broken, though. 461 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.539 And of course, now it doesn't have self-repair. 462 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:33.719 That's why they've all got to walk around getting into, you know, slurry tanks and sort of pulling off panels on the wall and repairing it and or saying, oh, you know, 94% returned to guidance. 463 00:36:33.780 --> 00:36:36.059 The liberator could unblock its own toilets. 464 00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:46.199 Borak doesn't seem to have done very much this series so far. 465 00:36:46.260 --> 00:36:51.179 In this one, he just sort of like he's he's project managing the repairs or something, isn't he? 466 00:36:51.239 --> 00:37:01.559 But didn't, and I know that this thing doesn't get carried over these kind of things, but there was an episode previously where he, um, made another ship's weapons detonate or something. 467 00:37:01.619 --> 00:37:02.820 Redemption. 468 00:37:02.820 --> 00:37:05.159 Yeah, but he's never done that since. 469 00:37:05.219 --> 00:37:15.360 So when they go in and say, we haven't got any weapons if there's a Federation patrol there, we're going to be helpless, but they've already established that Aurac can just sort of hack these things and... 470 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:16.739 So they forget. 471 00:37:18.539 --> 00:37:24.360 Or X seems less useful than it used to be or they've forgotten the extent of his abilities and powers a little bit, maybe. 472 00:37:24.420 --> 00:37:30.780 He will get a focus episode in a way that poor old Glinnis never does that's coming up. at some point. 473 00:37:31.019 --> 00:37:38.400 One of Sumi's getting a few more lines this week, but still not that many, but one of her lines is when Villas being sent to do the dirty job. 474 00:37:38.460 --> 00:37:43.920 She just says, typecasting, which is a very bold line to give anyone in a contrition series. 475 00:37:44.340 --> 00:37:59.579 It is utterly strange, and we have to lay it at Chris Boucher's door and can only be because he was incredibly rushed or whatever, although I don't think the timeline for getting the series up and running was that compressed, but you introduce a new regular in Su Lin. 476 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.760 She's got a few lines which are obviously meant to be Calli's in rescue. 477 00:38:02.820 --> 00:38:04.860 She's not even in power. 478 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:09.840 And then for the next 3 episodes, when you should be introducing her and, you know, integrating her into the hole. 479 00:38:09.900 --> 00:38:15.539 She just has kind of this background C plot tagging along with the rest of the crew who are in a B plot. 480 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.400 What is up with that? 481 00:38:17.460 --> 00:38:21.059 Why weren't they foregrounding her and actually, you know, showing what she could do. 482 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:25.320 We do get that next week in Headhunter, which is the 1st proper Sirillian episode. 483 00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:28.619 And once they start giving her character and giving her lines, She's great. 484 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.960 She's as good as anybody else, but why didn't it happen earlier? 485 00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:36.599 It's funny, given the care that went into introducing Tarant and Dana. 486 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:41.039 Yes. that we just have to have another woman. 487 00:38:41.099 --> 00:38:42.119 Do you know what I mean? 488 00:38:42.179 --> 00:38:46.380 There's a spare woman at the end of this episode, she can join the crew. 489 00:38:46.619 --> 00:38:53.639 I think if my plan for series D had come off and we didn't have Su-Lin. 490 00:38:54.119 --> 00:39:02.460 We could have had her in rescue maybe and then gotten eaten by the sea devil, but we didn't need anyone for power and traitor. 491 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:11.940 We could have had Dr. Paxton, who would be a perfect counterpoint to Avon and an interesting new spin on a regular, join them in Star Drive. 492 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:17.699 And then this could have been Dr. Paxton's episode with her old love, Justin, which would have been much more age appropriate. 493 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:19.139 Yeah. 494 00:39:25.739 --> 00:39:30.179 So what do we think of Servoland's chair of hypnotism? 495 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.099 It's come from nowhere, hasn't it? 496 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:34.860 I've not missed something about that being developed. 497 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:42.480 Um, and and when you sit in it, like later, she says it's a version therapy, but basically you just sit in it and Jacqueline. 498 00:39:42.539 --> 00:39:46.079 I mean, Jacqueline Pierce looked me in the eye and told me to hate someone, I would hate them. 499 00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:47.699 I told me this. 500 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:49.559 I wouldn't dream 3 times. 501 00:39:49.619 --> 00:39:50.340 I would believe it. 502 00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.619 I don't need to be sat in a stupid chair with a little buzzer that goes off. 503 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.019 Could Jacqueline Pierce get you to fancy Justin? 504 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.480 Well, there's a test. 505 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:06.059 It's amazingly slow, isn't it the way that that chair reacts? 506 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:06.900 So we sit there. 507 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:11.760 Someone says something, we wait a couple of seconds for the lights to come on, the noise happens. 508 00:40:11.820 --> 00:40:17.039 Like, all of those scenes are just sort of super slow and kind of super boring. 509 00:40:17.099 --> 00:40:27.840 And clearly, you know, we've seen right from episode one that the Federation has the ability to implant memories to change people's attitudes to, you know, all of the stuff that's done to Blake. 510 00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:40.320 And so that sort of stuff is not a 1000000 miles away from what the federation sort of able to do, but it really is the kind of shitty low rent version of that, the magic chair. 511 00:40:40.380 --> 00:40:42.719 And it's embarrassing for both of them. 512 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:48.239 Like both of the actors just looks so awkward about what they're being forced to do. 513 00:40:48.300 --> 00:40:51.360 And it's the point where Josette basically says, fuck it. 514 00:40:51.420 --> 00:40:52.380 Do you know what I mean? 515 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:53.699 Seriously? 516 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:54.360 not coming back. 517 00:40:54.420 --> 00:40:58.559 But don't you think that don't you think that she's just saying, well, you know, like whatever. 518 00:40:58.619 --> 00:41:00.480 I have to do this, I'll just do it. 519 00:41:00.539 --> 00:41:07.019 And like there is a bit of fun to be had where she goes down and she's sort of pissy with Justin and says, don't touch me and stuff. 520 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:08.519 Like all of that's pretty awesome. 521 00:41:08.579 --> 00:41:12.239 But she's not bothering and she shouldn't be bothering. 522 00:41:12.300 --> 00:41:14.159 You know, she's right about the bother. 523 00:41:14.219 --> 00:41:23.940 There's just, there's just one nice moment in this scene, which is really undersold. built upright, but when they're in it, The realisation that it's not just a chair that automatically tortures you, if you tell a lie. 524 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.980 If you tell a lie, it goes bong and then Servoland decides whether to torture you or not like pressing a button. 525 00:41:29.099 --> 00:41:39.900 And there's the bit where Dana says, no, I don't love him, and the bong goes off, which is, and sort of, it's like, you know, revealing to herself, forcing her to admit to herself that she does. 526 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:46.920 And then Servoline just looks and she doesn't need to press the button because I've caused you pain by revealing your true feelings to you. 527 00:41:46.980 --> 00:41:53.039 Which is a nice moment and in a more elegantly built episode, it would be a point of something. 528 00:41:53.099 --> 00:41:56.579 If only I believed the script was operating on that many levels. 529 00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:09.900 I think it's just, it goes to the wider point of the show's presentation because when you have a similar thing in series A in the hands of directors like Michael Bryant and Via Lorimer, to get, to make an absolutely likeful like comparison. 530 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:18.539 It's bleak in that machine, which strobes and it's actually a shot in a terrifying way and looks really awful. 531 00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:30.360 Um, and those scenes actually pack a dramatic punch, whereas here it's just relegated to being, you know, sitting in a chair with sort of, you know, a little bit of a, you know, a bit of a glow and sort of land saying, you love him, Dana. 532 00:42:30.420 --> 00:42:35.519 You love him, and it's like they just haven't put in any effort to presenting the show on screen. 533 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.099 It's just as low rent as you can imagine. 534 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:55.019 Because I didn't know if then she loved him more than she originally did because it's like, would you not just undo the programming she did to make Dana hate Justin, to make him, to make her love him again. 535 00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.500 Would you have to say you love him, you love him? 536 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.539 Or is it like a kind of a permanent change? 537 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:01.739 Yeah. 538 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.880 In which case, why didn't you use the chair on Kevin Stoney instead of killing him? 539 00:43:05.940 --> 00:43:07.679 And wasting a spaceship? 540 00:43:07.739 --> 00:43:11.039 Oh my god. love him, artist. 541 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:28.559 Yeah, but and as it all ends up, you know, with her, I think, or I took from it, that genuinely Dana is conflicted about her feelings for this guy, she does love him and she doesn't. 542 00:43:28.619 --> 00:43:33.179 And then Servoland makes her hate him for plot reasons. 543 00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:37.860 But then at the end, sort of out of spite makes her love for him. 544 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.280 Uh, She makes her love for him completely unambiguous. 545 00:43:41.340 --> 00:43:46.380 She makes, so I don't, I don't think that I, I read it as that she was going further than just restoring data to where she was. 546 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:53.579 She was changing Dana to have completely un, unquestioned, completely uncomplicated love for him, uh at the end. 547 00:43:54.000 --> 00:44:01.800 She did have that moment that you mentioned where she does realise that she loves him before the 1st round of hypnotism. 548 00:44:01.860 --> 00:44:02.820 Oh, that's before. 549 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.280 Yeah, okay, yeah, I was getting mixed up where that fell in the order of it, yeah. 550 00:44:05.340 --> 00:44:11.039 It felt like she loved him more afterwards, though, or more strongly or more demonstratively. 551 00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:25.199 Well, we see that in the last scene where, you know, we've talked about the fact that normally lovely, completely reliable Josette can't save some of the scenes in this, that last scene where she's crying over Justin's body. 552 00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:26.280 You know, 0 no. 553 00:44:26.340 --> 00:44:27.300 Like that. 554 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:29.039 You just think what is going on here? 555 00:44:29.099 --> 00:44:34.739 But maybe we, we, well, love is the real animal. she howling like the animals were howling at the start? 556 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.000 Maybe we went to go there. 557 00:44:36.059 --> 00:44:38.760 And the repeated dialogue. 558 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:43.860 They can't even get Josette in a corner of the studio in a later episode just to say the words just in it. 559 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:44.760 They have to loop it. 560 00:44:44.820 --> 00:44:49.199 So she goes, Justin, Justin, as she's approaching. 561 00:44:49.260 --> 00:44:50.639 Don't you think? 562 00:44:50.699 --> 00:45:02.579 It's supposed to sell the transition from film to when she runs up to, of course, Peter Byrne never fucking goes on location. 563 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.800 So he takes a studio set with him wherever he goes. 564 00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:15.840 So she has to run up to him where he's dead in a studio set that he conveniently has with him. 565 00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:17.519 It's so bad. 566 00:45:17.579 --> 00:45:26.519 Dougie Canfield could have told Mary Ridge that you can never just shoot a couple of stray scenes with a CSO backdrop and have people believe it's on film. 567 00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:32.760 And it's such a good shot of Serverland ship taking off as the camera sort of raises up. 568 00:45:32.820 --> 00:45:40.199 There's the rather messy melee of a gunfight between them all where you're not really entirely sure of what's going on, or I wasn't, but then, and, but that... 569 00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:45.960 Memorably described by Nathan as people jumping out from behind pylons to shoot other people jumping out from behind other pylons. 570 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.679 The mutoids are trying to shoot the animals. 571 00:45:49.739 --> 00:45:58.619 The animals are trying to get away. and Blake's, sorry, Avon, and everyone's just shooting the mutoids, but do they even, they haven't seen the animals. 572 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.679 Does Avon know whether or not to shoot the animals are goodies or baddies? 573 00:46:01.739 --> 00:46:02.280 He doesn't know yet. 574 00:46:02.340 --> 00:46:03.360 He doesn't care. 575 00:46:03.420 --> 00:46:09.179 I mean, is that ship bouncing on those 4 pylons that are all really close together? 576 00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:12.059 Like wouldn't it fall over if there was a wind? 577 00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:13.800 Like, what part of the ship is that? 578 00:46:13.860 --> 00:46:15.480 Like, it's so bad. 579 00:46:15.539 --> 00:46:22.079 And like there's a hole in the floor in that main room. like that just and you just drop out of that? 580 00:46:22.139 --> 00:46:25.440 Like that, it's a dropping body sound of that you've shot. 581 00:46:26.219 --> 00:46:28.019 Get rid of that. 582 00:46:32.219 --> 00:46:57.119 In that scene, I did one, again, it's me doing the thing of, is there something lost in the draft here, and I'm just, but where, or have I just missed a line of dialogue, where Dana says, says to him, I love you, Silvilan presents Dana to him, and Dana says how much, you know, I love you, I love you, and she's, and she's clearly doing it, she's going completely over the top with the performance, which is like what's makes me think that's what Gisette is deciding. 583 00:46:57.179 --> 00:47:10.199 I've been programmed to love this man to a ridiculous level that I didn't originally and rushes to him all girlishly and puts her head on his chest and he sort of does a little smirk at Servilan and I'm like, oh, is this them doing a deal? 584 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.699 Because that would have been a, that would have been really nasty bit of drama. 585 00:47:14.699 --> 00:47:22.619 If, if Servolan had actually done a deal with Justin to hypnotise Dana to fall unambiguously and uncontrollably in love with him. 586 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.260 It would be a horrible serverland thing to do. 587 00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:28.559 That would have happened if Ben Steed had written the script. 588 00:47:29.940 --> 00:47:31.739 Yeah, yeah. 589 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:37.079 Because yeah, he just asks it, he says turn her back the way she was, I think, doesn't he? 590 00:47:37.139 --> 00:47:38.099 Yeah, yeah. 591 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.519 The machine doesn't seem that subtle, doesn't seem. 592 00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:44.880 Her chair only has 2 settings, love and hate. 593 00:47:44.940 --> 00:47:52.019 She was doing that same way she was going, love him, but also be a bit conflicted about the things that he's done and the age that, but love him. 594 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:53.699 Too complicated. 595 00:47:54.300 --> 00:47:58.619 Serve blankets horny on a long mission and just sits bore in the chair. 596 00:47:58.679 --> 00:47:59.820 You love me, boy. 597 00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:00.719 You love me. 598 00:48:00.780 --> 00:48:03.000 As away with him, sits in back in the chair. 599 00:48:03.059 --> 00:48:04.380 You hate me more. 600 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:05.280 You hate me. 601 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:16.320 Oh, we haven't mentioned Paul Darrow having not the biggest role in this episode, but he does a marvellous little slip as he runs into the into the studio. 602 00:48:16.380 --> 00:48:22.679 He treads on a plastic tray that's on the floor or something and his foot slides and it doesn't derail him at all. 603 00:48:22.739 --> 00:48:26.699 He, uh, he just marches straight through it with his gun on holstered. 604 00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:32.699 Oh, well, they can't go again because they've got little explosives in the guns that have already fired. 605 00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:35.940 So they've got one shot to do it, so he just has to do it. 606 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.179 But none of that makes any sense either because it's an underground base. 607 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:49.260 And so it's got the one door and then somehow it's got a back door on the same level, like on the other side of the hill or something, like or they've come down. 608 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:55.079 Maybe they've got sort of Servlad's map from Aurak, and they've come down a corridor or something like that. 609 00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.179 And they've, and then they come in. 610 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:04.500 He kicks over a chair for no reason other than that he just wants to look really super butch and then he falls nearly falls over. 611 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:05.699 It's tremendous. 612 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:06.420 It's a great moment. 613 00:49:06.900 --> 00:49:24.599 There's a great bit where Justin is like drinking and deleted drinking himself to ruin and deleting everything, and he picks up some of his files, and he angrily throws them in the direction of his computer monitor, but they miss and sort of land in the sink, but then his computer monitor explodes anyway. one take. 614 00:49:24.659 --> 00:49:25.559 This is one take, love. 615 00:49:25.619 --> 00:49:39.179 Where he also wakes up in the morning with like with his face on a desk full of safety glass, you know, like that sort of... in a farm where Patsy turns down the kitchen. 616 00:49:40.260 --> 00:49:45.360 And she wakes up in the middle covered in ash and her face is the only thing that's not burnt to a grass. 617 00:49:45.420 --> 00:49:47.639 He just sort of nodded off. 618 00:49:50.519 --> 00:50:00.000 Yeah, I think that's Paul Darrow desperately trying to inject some drama into proceedings because this is such a low drama episode. 619 00:50:00.059 --> 00:50:01.980 Like no one cares what's going on. 620 00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:06.539 It's all just like the climax with the people jumping out from behind pillars. 621 00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:11.039 It's all just bangs and flashes and it's not in service to any kind of interesting drama. 622 00:50:14.099 --> 00:50:18.840 We would like to give you a balanced panel, but unfortunately, we could find that. 623 00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:23.159 Brendan's strapped in a hypnochet for half an hour and he still does. 624 00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:24.119 He said he could talk. 625 00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:25.019 He wasn't defended. 626 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.179 I must check in with Simon, who specialises in contrary opinions. 627 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:31.260 He probably loves the episode. 628 00:50:32.460 --> 00:50:39.360 When it gets to the end of series review, imbalances can be righted by anybody who feels we've done this and injustice. 629 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:49.139 Look, I so appreciate the start of the season for giving Dana so much to do. 630 00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:53.039 It's just, it's, you know, at foreground stain a lot, and I'm on board for that. 631 00:50:53.099 --> 00:50:56.699 Dana is, I love episodes where Dana is prominent. 632 00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:58.500 It's just sad that this got it so wrong. 633 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:06.599 It should not have been that character because it ends up debasing the character and making her starring role this season in a terrible episode. 634 00:51:06.659 --> 00:51:10.019 And so it was just better if they'd gone back to the drawing board, I think. 635 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:15.539 I mean, they basically said, well, look, this, this, this, this script, you wanted more, wanted more to do. 636 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:16.739 You've got lots to do this week. 637 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:26.519 Here's the script, but this week is definitely your party and you can cry if you want to, which is still at number one in the UK. 4 weeks. 638 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:34.559 Strangely, altered images with happy birthday was stuck at number two at the same time as it's my party and I'll cry if I want. don't know what was going on in October 81. 639 00:51:34.739 --> 00:51:39.659 But songs about parties were all the rage in the UK chart that month. 640 00:51:39.900 --> 00:51:52.199 Do you think possibly when they were trying to entice Chan Chapels to series D, they said we've got a really good script coming up for you, love, said this to her, she read it and went, no, not even a scene, not even a voiceover. 641 00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:54.900 I drive an eye off screen in a bunker. 642 00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:55.980 Thank you very much. 643 00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:28.980 I suppose one thing I was thinking about was whether, whether they were going to recruit Justin, because, um, it doesn't seem likely that they would introduce a new character, but because the setup is that they're going to, um, they're trying to recruit people in the fight against the Federation, and they've got that base, but we've never been back to the base. 644 00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:34.019 They only ever show you the ship in the hangar and then they're inside the ship. 645 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:46.679 So I did think it was plausible that he would survive and be recruited, and then they would just say, well, he's in the base working on a, a cure for the uh, for the mind control drug, and then they would deploy it later on. 646 00:52:46.739 --> 00:52:47.579 You need never. 647 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:51.059 It's not like the liberator whereas if they recruit somebody, you'd have to be on the ship sort of thing. 648 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.860 Now that they've got the base. 649 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:59.639 So, whereas previously I would have thought, you know, when they try and recruit somebody, think, well, they're not going to be recruited, they're either going to die or be left behind. 650 00:52:59.699 --> 00:53:05.639 I think now it's at least plausible that they, uh, that they, they might survive the episode. 651 00:53:05.699 --> 00:53:12.360 I think I think once we've had Dr. Paxton and then Justin. 652 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:13.500 And Mueller next week. 653 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:19.860 I think we've really set up a pattern for what happens to the experts that they try and recruit their cores, no spoilers. 654 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:24.599 But the regular cast doesn't get any bigger, let's just say. 655 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:36.900 Also, saving us from a fate where Justin was a semi-regular character, I think is probably worth it. had a semi every time he was around. 656 00:53:36.900 --> 00:53:38.460 Oh, yeah. 657 00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:42.900 And on that bombshell. 658 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.079 I think it's... disgusting. 659 00:53:50.639 --> 00:54:01.019 So this week, like Villa, our glass of wine has seemed more half empty than half full, but do join us again next time on maximum power. 660 00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:03.000 I think we'll be head hunting next time, won't we? 661 00:54:03.059 --> 00:54:05.159 Yep, things can only get better. 662 00:54:05.940 --> 00:54:10.320 So thanks a lot for joining us. and we'll see you again on maximum power. 663 00:54:10.380 --> 00:54:11.099 Bye bye for now. 664 00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:11.519 Bye. 665 00:54:11.579 --> 00:54:12.360 Bye. 666 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:12.900 Goodbye. 667 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:13.619 See you later. 668 00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:15.059 You love him, Dana. 669 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:15.719 You love him. 670 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.360 Maximum power. 671 00:54:21.420 --> 00:54:26.340 Go, go. 30 seconds stress for maximum power. 672 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:28.500 Switching to manual. 673 00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:30.480 Maximum power on all drives. 674 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:33.300 Maximum power. 675 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:52.860 So, I think, when, when Pete, I think you said, about, um, they, they had short notice to get everything up and running again for this series, had they destroyed everything from the previous one then or sold it off? 676 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:57.239 Yes, because the production officer had actually closed and so they'd gotten rid of everything. 677 00:54:57.300 --> 00:55:00.840 They only got Aurak out of the skip, apparently. 678 00:55:00.900 --> 00:55:02.219 Wow. 679 00:55:02.820 --> 00:55:05.400 Michael Keating got him out of the skip. 680 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:11.099 Still my very favourite scene in Blake 7. 681 00:55:13.860 --> 00:55:17.280 Which serverlands click woman going, oh, right.