WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 22:02:11 1 00:00:03.660 --> 00:00:06.360 Maximum Power. 2 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:16.800 Welcome back to Maximum Power, the only Blake 7 podcast that offers universal healthcare at point of use for the low monthly cost of just all of your internal organs. 3 00:00:17.460 --> 00:00:30.120 Today we're discussing PowerPlay, the 2nd episode of Series C, written by Terry Nation himself, and Avon isn't the only one dismayed to find someone unexpectedly in charge of the ship this week, as I'm hosting the podcast for the 1st time. 4 00:00:30.179 --> 00:00:31.260 I'm Mark. 5 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:33.000 I'm Brendan. 6 00:00:33.060 --> 00:00:35.579 I'm Cole and the condition is purely temporary. 7 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:39.119 Hello James, but probably not the one you're expecting. 8 00:00:39.179 --> 00:00:41.880 And I am Chevron, and this is my wife. 9 00:00:41.939 --> 00:00:42.479 Peter. 10 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:48.000 Welcome to the podcast, James. 11 00:00:48.060 --> 00:00:49.619 What are your thoughts on PowerPlay? 12 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:51.299 I love this episode. 13 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:56.520 I always have, but I watched it again this week, you know, for obvious reasons. 14 00:00:56.579 --> 00:00:59.820 And again, I was really just really, really taken with it. 15 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:00.899 I think it's terrific. 16 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:13.319 I mean, I think that aftermath and power play together as a kind of 2 parter might be my favourite episode of the whole show, if you counted it as a as a like a 2 hour premiere. 17 00:01:13.379 --> 00:01:15.120 So yeah, I love it. 18 00:01:15.180 --> 00:01:15.840 I love it to bits. 19 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.659 I'm totally in agreement with James Thaird. 20 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.060 This is the 2nd half, my favourite Blake 7 story. 21 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.079 We're back in producer David Maloney's hands as director and Light Star one. 22 00:01:25.140 --> 00:01:31.439 He elevates the series to its confident, well told, best, um, and yeah, I adore it. 23 00:01:31.500 --> 00:01:32.819 Brendan? 24 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:49.620 Yeah, I really enjoy this one, and there's a bit of genuine mystery by having the suspects we have for who's up to the shenanigans on board the ship, and the villa plot is also just, it's a 100% villa. 25 00:01:49.739 --> 00:01:53.280 You know, it's really playing to Michael Keating strengths. 26 00:01:53.340 --> 00:01:56.159 So yeah, everyone has a great week this week, I think. 27 00:01:56.579 --> 00:01:58.739 I absolutely love this. 28 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:01.439 I just love Terrence introduction. 29 00:02:01.500 --> 00:02:09.120 I love the way you're trying to figure out what's going on, the twists that come and go, all the actual power play. 30 00:02:09.180 --> 00:02:16.860 And Mr. Bronson from Grain Chill. playing a working class. for the only time in his career and doing it really, really well. 31 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:18.300 Yeah, slightly off. 32 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:38.819 I mean, I remember the 1st time I saw this, you know, it would have been when he was in grain chill pretty much, and realising it was him, but kind of going, ooh, actually, he's more versatile then. than I thought because I generally thought we could do kind of nice and posh or nasty and posh, you know, and Hitler, those other things he could do. 33 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:43.800 And he's a sort of working class sergeant, isn't he? 34 00:02:43.860 --> 00:02:47.400 He's a sort of proper thuggish NCO. 35 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:49.560 And he's really, really good. 36 00:02:49.620 --> 00:03:03.599 And I think the repeated viewings of power play have gulled us to the shock of seeing Federation troops aboard the Liberator for the 1st time, but I can recall the thrill, the 0 shit feeling when Clegg and his men arrive. 37 00:03:03.659 --> 00:03:04.979 It really sets it up well. 38 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.800 Hey, and Mark, what did you think of the episode? 39 00:03:07.860 --> 00:03:09.599 Yeah, I loved it as well. 40 00:03:09.659 --> 00:03:13.620 So it might be worth reminding listeners who just knows there's a collection of voices. 41 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:15.120 I'm watching Blake 7 for the 1st time. 42 00:03:15.180 --> 00:03:17.759 So this is as far through the series as I've seen. 43 00:03:17.819 --> 00:03:20.580 And I'm really enjoying series C so far. 44 00:03:20.699 --> 00:03:25.080 I think the 1st the 1st ever 3 episodes where it's an ongoing story. 45 00:03:25.139 --> 00:03:41.639 I've been my favourite and the return to that is really exciting again and not knowing if or when they're going to find their crewmates and yeah, the sort of the cliffhanger ending to aftermath and then leading into this story of, yeah, really, really enjoyed it. 46 00:03:41.699 --> 00:03:46.620 And the thing about that cliffhanger ending is it's a Danger Mouse cliffhanger. 47 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:48.000 Do you know what I mean? 48 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:49.080 Do you know what I mean? 49 00:03:49.139 --> 00:03:54.900 If you come back to it, and it's shot from a different angle, it's shorter, and then Clegg's men are just suddenly in the room. 50 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:56.819 It's completely refilled. 51 00:03:57.539 --> 00:04:01.560 I want to say, Mark, about the you watching it for the 1st time. 52 00:04:01.620 --> 00:04:09.719 I know you sort of have some vague kind of cultural knowledge of the show. but not necessarily kind of actual, um, what happens. 53 00:04:09.780 --> 00:04:16.079 When I 1st saw this, I had no idea that Tarrant was going to be a regular character. 54 00:04:16.259 --> 00:04:29.339 So for me, the twist that he's not actually the commander of these men, they are separate federation men, then he's not a federation man at all. 55 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:31.620 Then he's the murderer. 56 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:39.540 Then he's going to join the crew. was this brilliant sort of tick, tick, tick, tick, tick thing that completely blew my mind. 57 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.740 And I just wondered, you know, was it that good for you? 58 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.139 It absolutely was. 59 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:48.480 Yeah, I didn't know he was going to be a new main character. 60 00:04:48.540 --> 00:04:51.060 I don't recognise the actor from anything else. 61 00:04:51.120 --> 00:05:07.980 So it wasn't like, you know, I had that kind of idea that, you know, we'd sort of, we'd serve land, everything, you know, it's talked about in Doctor Who and everything that she was, she's famous from Blake 7 and I've seen loads of gifts and everything, but with Dell, yeah, I haven't really seen him and everything else. 62 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:09.839 So that was really good. 63 00:05:09.899 --> 00:05:17.339 So that's what storyline on the Liberator with Dana and Avon, it's sort of like Die Hard on the Liberator, isn't it? 64 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.699 Die Hard with his engines, but... 65 00:05:20.699 --> 00:05:22.500 It's great. 66 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:26.639 It's great what he's saying about Tarant there, because all the clues about his double dealing are there. 67 00:05:26.699 --> 00:05:33.180 They're in plain sight of the little luck that he gives Avon when Avon's trying to avoid identifying himself to Zen. 68 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:39.600 He knows what's going on then, clearly. and when he's standing on that underfloor great and his little, I'm not really sure about anything. 69 00:05:39.660 --> 00:05:43.439 All the clues are there, but the 1st time you don't pick up on them, it could be anything. 70 00:05:43.500 --> 00:05:51.300 Yeah, I think you're right, you realise just before Avon goes for the gun, which would be an incredibly slim line gun. 71 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:57.959 Uh, you know, Terrence sort of looks at him and goes, you know, he's like, okay, okay. 72 00:05:58.019 --> 00:05:59.459 And I think he probably knew all the time. 73 00:05:59.579 --> 00:06:02.160 But it was like, oh, I know what you're going to do. 74 00:06:02.220 --> 00:06:05.220 So I'm going to follow Sue and it just is glorious from then onwards. 75 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:13.920 One of my favourite lines that Tarrant gets in this is when he says they've launched an escape pod. 76 00:06:13.980 --> 00:06:18.000 Not, they, not, they've taken an escape pod. 77 00:06:18.060 --> 00:06:29.339 Right, which is really great because they're sort of setting him up to be not exactly an analytical character like Avon, but a character who tries to deal more in facts. 78 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.160 So he doesn't have a fact that they've taken the lifepod. 79 00:06:32.220 --> 00:06:35.040 He has a fact that they've launched a life pod. 80 00:06:35.100 --> 00:06:41.939 And when he's reasoning with Avon Leisure in the episode, it's all based on if this, then that. 81 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:47.639 You know, it's, it's, okay, someone who lives aboard the ship considers the ship theirs. 82 00:06:47.699 --> 00:06:49.500 It's not Blake, because I know what Blake looks like. 83 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.300 There's 2 other people it could be. 84 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:53.939 It's a proper detective story. 85 00:06:54.420 --> 00:06:59.939 And, you know, it does work like one in exactly that way that you're describing. 86 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:08.339 It's also it's quite interesting that the sort of policeman being the murderer thing, you know, which is the end of the keys of marinace. 87 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:12.120 So nation has, nation has done that before. 88 00:07:12.180 --> 00:07:15.540 But also it is, you know, spoilers, it's the mousetrap as well. 89 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:22.019 Um, you know, it'll be just incredibly famous, but it's a brilliant trick and it works, you know? 90 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:22.379 Excellent. 91 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.560 Can I say something which might be a bit controversial? 92 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:26.879 Always. 93 00:07:27.540 --> 00:07:32.519 Stephen Pacy is always fantastic, but I don't think Tarant is ever this good again. 94 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:40.259 Perhaps it's because he has to be clever and he's playing both sides and we never see him being this cagey again. 95 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:49.379 He sort of settles down into the heroic bully boy kind of role, which is just a bit less interesting than when he's really got survived by his wits here. 96 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:52.319 So even though I do like Tarrant, I like Stephen Pacey. 97 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.899 I just think this is such a good episode for him. 98 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:56.220 He's really well written for. 99 00:07:56.339 --> 00:08:03.899 Do you think that's because without spoilers, Terry doesn't write him again for a long time. 100 00:08:04.019 --> 00:08:07.259 It could be because he is well written in terminal. 101 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:08.220 Is his character? 102 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:08.939 Yeah. 103 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:13.860 I just think that he's given a really good part of the action here and once he becomes a regular. 104 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.040 He just isn't afforded that ability to be so interesting again. 105 00:08:17.220 --> 00:08:18.600 No. 106 00:08:18.660 --> 00:08:21.060 It's interesting, you'll call Taryn. 107 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:22.560 I know my notes have written Dell. 108 00:08:22.620 --> 00:08:28.079 So obviously it becomes it becomes more known as the terror left, really, yeah. through the series. 109 00:08:28.139 --> 00:08:35.820 I did wonder if he was going to drop the accent when it sort of revealed that he is the murderer and the one who's been working against the Federation. 110 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:42.899 I thought maybe you'd been putting that on as part of affecting this air of being an officer, but obviously he doesn't. 111 00:08:43.379 --> 00:08:45.779 But he is just a posh murderer. 112 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:46.440 Yeah, yeah. 113 00:08:46.440 --> 00:09:00.899 A friend of mine has suggested and it's not contradicted by the story, but it's also not confirmed by the story, but has suggested that it's actually not clear how much of the thing about him being a pirate and running his own game and stuff is true. 114 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.960 So, yeah, he says, my own ship was destroyed. 115 00:09:04.019 --> 00:09:05.820 I was rescued by a federation ship. 116 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.240 My clothes were wrecked, so I put on this uniform. 117 00:09:09.299 --> 00:09:13.019 When I put on this uniform, the ship I was on was destroyed. 118 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:18.000 Then I got into a life pod, then I found myself here, and then I bumped into these guys. 119 00:09:18.059 --> 00:09:22.320 Now we know that he's not been known to Clegg for more than a few hours. 120 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:43.740 But that story is kind of so complicated that it could be that he still is a federation officer and he's just lying to Avon because Avon is even less likely to trust him if he was metaphorically as well as literally still in uniform a couple of hours ago. 121 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:54.659 Whereas they said, just saying, well, I trained, but I quit, that's why I can do it, but that's not really me, is the sort of story it's more likely that Avon will buy or accept. 122 00:09:54.720 --> 00:10:00.419 I mean, the only thing that might mitigate against that is that Serve Land would probably know him if he was from the ranks. 123 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.120 But yeah, it's an interesting theory. 124 00:10:03.179 --> 00:10:04.740 Depends how big the Navy is. 125 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:05.519 Oh, that's true. 126 00:10:05.580 --> 00:10:06.000 Yeah. 127 00:10:06.059 --> 00:10:07.559 It's not my theory. 128 00:10:07.620 --> 00:10:09.960 I don't know they claim to it, but I do like it. 129 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:11.820 It's quite cool. 130 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:20.580 We said in Countdown last season that Del Grant, Anna Grant's brother looked like a bit of a backdoor bleak replacement, but here we get the real deal. 131 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.240 But I think it's established later on this season that Tarrant's not a backdoor pirate. 132 00:10:24.299 --> 00:10:30.659 Sorry, a backdoor pilot. master a double entry. 133 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:38.580 There is talk, isn't there, at the end of series B of this idea of the replacement character for Blake being inverted commas, the captain. 134 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:39.120 Yes. 135 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:53.340 And that character kind of becomes Tarrant, but also in some ways more resembles Grant in that when Terry comes up with them, The idea is that they're older, they're at least 35 and that kind of changes the balance in the crew. 136 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:57.120 And Tarant is only young because Stephen Pacey aces his audition. 137 00:10:57.179 --> 00:10:57.960 Right. 138 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:13.860 And actually, what you were saying, earlier, Mark about maybe Tarrant was putting on an accent as an officer, actually it's Stephen Pacy being saddled with that gravelly voice because he thought that because an older character in his audition, he had to be sort of lower and more gravelly. 139 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:15.899 And then when he got the part, he stuck with it. 140 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.480 He's 22 or 23, isn't he? 141 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:19.860 Which is just crazy. 142 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:22.919 And and Josette Simon's even younger. 143 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:32.279 There's a great interview with Stephen Pacey from around this time where you hear his real voice and it's very light and up here and I'm only exaggerating slightly. 144 00:11:33.659 --> 00:11:38.940 I saw him play 30 Worcester in the musical by G's in the West End in the 90s. 145 00:11:38.940 --> 00:11:44.940 And his natural voice is very much more in the kind of 30 Worcester space. had no idea. 146 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:46.259 I thought that was his real voice. 147 00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:52.320 Because I listen to the his reading of Doctor Who and the Enlightenment. 148 00:11:52.379 --> 00:12:00.240 And I was like, oh, his voice has changed over time, like actors do, you know, it's got less R, you know, RP and stuff to say. 149 00:12:00.299 --> 00:12:03.120 Oh no, it really is putting on a voice. 150 00:12:03.179 --> 00:12:05.279 Okay, something you learn something new every day. 151 00:12:05.340 --> 00:12:06.960 You can really hear it in episodes. 152 00:12:07.019 --> 00:12:11.460 Orbit next season where he's there and you say, nah, I'm not a mathematical prodigy. 153 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:12.299 It's all down here. 154 00:12:25.860 --> 00:12:32.940 Something you touched on, James's, and Peter, is that Tarrant was originally envisioned as an older character. 155 00:12:33.059 --> 00:12:42.600 And also, there was going to be a lot more speculation as to his true allegiances in this episode, which didn't really become a thing. 156 00:12:42.659 --> 00:12:44.340 But having that knowledge. 157 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:49.139 Now, I watch this episode and go, they could have hired Michael Shiard to play that character. 158 00:12:49.139 --> 00:12:53.159 Because he does bloody well here. 159 00:12:53.220 --> 00:13:07.799 And I'm just like, having Michael Shiard as a regular, but maybe he, you know, if the offer was there, maybe he didn't want to be a regular unless he was a nasty teacher or a version of Hitler, including Space Hitler on the Tomorrow people. 160 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:12.840 I'm not sure if Michael Sheer was ever irregular in anything apart from Grain Chill. 161 00:13:12.899 --> 00:13:16.019 I don't think he was that kind of actor in the 70s. 162 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:44.220 Also, one of the other reasons that Stephen Pacey got the job is that David Maloney's secretary more or less fainted when he said hello to her because he's just so, so dramatically handsome and apparently she grabbed, she grabbed hold of David Maloney's arm and said, you have got to have him. that if he could inspire that amount of female devotion was arriving for an audition, then he might be worth having in the show. 163 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:48.480 I suppose it was just a coincidence that he just looks like a younger slimmer Blake. 164 00:13:48.539 --> 00:13:52.980 We saw him last year at a convention and yeah, he still looks terrific. 165 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:55.139 Yeah, everyone was swooning then. 166 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:55.559 Yeah. 167 00:13:55.980 --> 00:13:58.860 He's only going to be like 65 or... 168 00:13:58.919 --> 00:13:59.100 Exactly. 169 00:13:59.159 --> 00:13:59.580 Exactly. 170 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:00.419 He still looks great. 171 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:13.559 Watching this, of course, I've told the story before where Rod gave up my husband gave up on Blake 7 after series A and said, you know, they've blown up and that's how I'm going to remember them, stupid and dead. 172 00:14:14.820 --> 00:14:19.080 Now, he sort of wandered in halfway through this episode. 173 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:24.659 And at the end, he turned to me and said, so Blake, um, Blake? 174 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:30.179 And I'm like, that's Blake now, and I pointed it Taryn, and he's like, oh, thank God. 175 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:31.740 Blake was the worst thing about the show. 176 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:33.240 Oh, Serbaland. 177 00:14:36.419 --> 00:14:41.460 I think Terence like an excellent Blake replacement stroke improvement. 178 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:49.799 I don't want to, I'm not going to spoil anything, but he just ends up being a great sort of counterpoint to Avon and more of the revolutionary. 179 00:14:49.860 --> 00:14:56.639 To your point, James, are you talking about whether or not he was still going to be turning out to be a Federation person? 180 00:14:56.700 --> 00:14:59.279 That would have been a nice twist, like a season from now. 181 00:14:59.340 --> 00:15:01.500 It's like, oh, I have been a federation person all along. 182 00:15:01.620 --> 00:15:04.080 But no, we don't want that. 183 00:15:04.139 --> 00:15:05.279 Tarents a hero. love him. 184 00:15:05.340 --> 00:15:08.279 I was just going to say that I think this is the best version of the crew. 185 00:15:08.340 --> 00:15:09.840 Oh, absolutely. 186 00:15:09.899 --> 00:15:10.559 Yeah. 187 00:15:10.620 --> 00:15:11.220 Yeah. 188 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.139 Sorry, Glennis Barber. 189 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.320 I love Jenna. 190 00:15:16.379 --> 00:15:20.940 Jenna's amazing, but this is the Blake 7 that I really remember from my childhood. 191 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:25.139 And this is just such a great introduction to Tarran. 192 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:26.820 The episode is really well written. 193 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:29.820 Terry Nation is just firing on all cylinders. 194 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:31.980 Everyone's really clever. 195 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:39.600 Like Terrence Clever, Dana's really strong and written well, and this is Josette Simon's 1st performance because it's the 1st episode shot. 196 00:15:39.659 --> 00:15:41.519 And Avon's clever. 197 00:15:41.580 --> 00:15:46.320 The way he just comes up with that Chevron cover story just off the cuff immediately. 198 00:15:46.379 --> 00:15:48.539 It really shows how on the ball he is. 199 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:53.580 And when they're taken down to the flight deck, he throws in this little, is this the way as they're going down? 200 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:57.659 And it's just, it's real, and his life pod ploy is clever. 201 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.960 It's just, it's a clever writer writing clever characters. 202 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:07.740 And also, it uses the lifebod set, which they've built to shoot the beginning of aftermath. 203 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.980 So it's not just clever on a plotting level. 204 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:20.159 It's clever on a, on a, production, a, budget and production level, using the, the, the same set a week apart for completely different. 205 00:16:20.220 --> 00:16:23.639 Everyone's going to have forgotten most of that 1st scene by the time they get to this bit. 206 00:16:23.700 --> 00:16:28.320 But you know, you get to use the same set and shoot it on the same day, which is really smart. 207 00:16:28.379 --> 00:16:38.460 And it's undeniably Terry Nation, because there's also inspection channels, which are just, you know, one bitter way from air darts, to say. pure nation. 208 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:43.919 You mentioned the thing about Avon's pretending that Dana is his wife. 209 00:16:44.279 --> 00:17:03.059 One of the things I think is quite interesting in this episode and in aftermath, and it never really comes back, is that when he pretends that she's his wife, she doesn't object, and obviously the 1st thing that she does last week, is kiss him and say, you are very beautiful, Avon. 210 00:17:03.059 --> 00:17:09.180 And, I mean, that's part of her Miranda Tempest thing that they've got going on in that episode. 211 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:27.059 But then, obviously last week, Dana kisses Avon, then Servolan kisses Avon, and then Servolan kills Dana's father, although Dana doesn't seem to know that Servolan has kissed Avon. 212 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:41.700 So suddenly you have this thing that's a bit like a sort of a love triangle, almost, between those characters, from a program that's been, I don't think it's been any kissing at all in previous 26 episodes. 213 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:43.500 Only between cousins. 214 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:49.859 Yeah, I'd wiped that from my memory with brain bleach. 215 00:17:49.920 --> 00:18:05.940 But yeah, it seems to be setting up this sort of love triangle thing, which would be really interesting because even is in a position now where he has these sort of 2 female regular characters who've expressed an interest in him and one of them wants to kill the other. 216 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:14.519 And that never goes anywhere, but it does look like it's something that Terry is putting in there in case he wants to go back to it or in case anybody else wants to go back to it. 217 00:18:14.579 --> 00:18:16.380 Yeah, it's really interesting. 218 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:24.180 We spoke last week about how efficiently all of the new relationships between the crew and especially with Servlan are formed. 219 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:31.440 So last week, in aftermath, you got distinct personal relationships between Serveland and Dana and Serveland and Avon. 220 00:18:31.500 --> 00:18:43.380 And this episode, you get another one between Serverland and Kelly, who I don't think have said a single word to each other previously and yet get whole really entertaining scenes in their own subplot, which we may come to. 221 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:48.539 Aren't they only in the same room in pressure point and they don't exchange words? 222 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:51.000 They're not even in the same room in pressure point. 223 00:18:51.059 --> 00:19:01.079 I think they're never even in the same room in CClocate Destroy, where, you know, the 1st appearance of Servoland and Kelly's taken prisoner, but it's all Callie and Travis. 224 00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:03.900 They do come face to face at the end of Orach, that says. 225 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:05.759 Yes, that's it, yes. 226 00:19:05.819 --> 00:19:11.940 Because Avon is only in the same place as Servlan in all rack of pressure point, isn't he? 227 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:14.819 And he sort of picks out from behind bleaken weapon. 228 00:19:14.940 --> 00:19:16.319 Yeah. 229 00:19:16.380 --> 00:19:18.420 But they don't even have a conversation. 230 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.920 No, it's so efficiently done the way that all of these new relationships are set up. 231 00:19:22.980 --> 00:19:26.279 It's a fantastic piece of reformatting aftermath. 232 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.460 I mean, that's one of the reasons why I wanted to come on and talk about that one. 233 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:37.920 They're almost one story to me, these 2, because I 1st saw them on the on the UK VHS, which is these 2 and then sarcophagus. 234 00:19:37.980 --> 00:19:40.680 What, the episode where they didn't have to pay any guest roles? 235 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:48.180 Yeah, that's the 1st time I saw any season C, the 1st time I saw kind of this version of the show was on that. 236 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:49.140 I rented it. 237 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:50.579 You know, you could you could rent them. 238 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:56.279 Um, So yeah, aftermath and power play are kind of one story to me. 239 00:19:56.339 --> 00:20:01.380 The Scotts Kofkus never quite feels like it's part of the same story as, to be clear. 240 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:02.220 All the same series. 241 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:05.099 Was this story, the 1st that you saw from Blake 7? 242 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:07.140 No, not quite. 243 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:27.180 I have a weird thing where I had incredibly vague memories of seeing little bits of season D when it was repeated in 1983 when I would have been like 5 because it was a program that my parents watched, not in a Fannish way, but in a, you know, it was amongst the things that they would watch occasionally. 244 00:20:27.180 --> 00:20:42.059 And I have very, very vague memories of remembering having seen bits of season D. And then the 1st time I actually saw any of it properly was those big chunky compilation videos that were released in the mid 80s. 245 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:54.000 You know, there's the beginning, duel, and Aurac, which are sort of 3 or 4 episodes of season A, each kind of chunked down into 2 hour Inverted Commas movies for the shelter and rental market. 246 00:20:54.059 --> 00:21:02.039 And then a little bit afterwards, there's a 4th one, which is aftermath and power play and sarcophagus. 247 00:21:02.099 --> 00:21:04.799 It's a pity that they didn't continue that formatting on. 248 00:21:04.859 --> 00:21:09.119 I would have paid good money for the compilation of traitor, star drive, and animals. 249 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:12.779 Well, terminal and rescue would actually be good. absolutely. 250 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:31.140 After that, I sort of got most of the double cassette versions as they came out because by that point I knew that I liked the program and I was a little bit older and so, you know, you can't have little jobs when you're a teenager and stuff and that was kind of where some of that money went and I didn't quite get all of them. 251 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:32.279 I missed some of them out. 252 00:21:32.460 --> 00:21:46.980 And then there's another weird thing, which I will tell you, which is that, I had a Blake 7 video in my bag at school and my history teacher saw it and said, I've got some of that on video if you want it. 253 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:49.500 And I said, it's okay. 254 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:51.299 I've got all the ones I've released. 255 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.880 And he said, no, no, I've got some my recorded when it was on. 256 00:21:54.180 --> 00:22:01.259 And the next day he came in and he'd got a tape which had got ultraworld and death watch on. 257 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:02.640 Oh, my God. 258 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:06.660 Your fan heart must have leapt in joy. absolutely. 259 00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:15.359 Which, um, he taped when they were on, when they were repeated in 1981. before series D was on for the 1st time. 260 00:22:15.420 --> 00:22:18.299 And sorry, I watched those and I copied those. 261 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:32.099 But also that means that weirdly, I didn't see Moloch until it came out on DVD because we already had Death Watch, so I didn't buy the Moloch Death Watch tape. 262 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:32.819 What a blessing. 263 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:36.779 That is how I reason you would watch it. 264 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:43.799 And I also didn't buy the Stardrive animals tape because everybody said it was terrible. 265 00:22:43.859 --> 00:22:47.819 So I saw Stardrive when it was on UK gold. for the 1st time. 266 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:51.059 I saw animals for the 1st time, again, when it was on the DVD. 267 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:51.960 Wow. 268 00:22:52.019 --> 00:22:54.779 So it's a sort of peculiar path through. 269 00:22:54.839 --> 00:23:02.519 I could actually write a list of the order in which I saw the program, but I'm not going to it because that would be even more boring than what I've just said. that's led you to this podcast. 270 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.500 If we're in anecdotal mood, can I tell an anecdote about watching power play? 271 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:11.160 Yes. 272 00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:22.019 So, um, this is, as I said, one of my favourite episodes, um, and I saw it in 1980, which was when Sirius B and Series C were shown back to back in um, Australia. 273 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.980 And then they repeated them very late on a Saturday night in 1982. 274 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:34.019 And so I was 10 years old, my parents used to let me stay up and watch them at midnight on a Saturday night because it was not a school day the next day. 275 00:23:34.019 --> 00:23:40.019 And I was really, really looking forward to seeing this episode again because as you do, it's like a 10 year old. 276 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:43.259 I remember that this was the episode where they said the full names of the crew. 277 00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:47.339 So there's Janice Stanis, Kerr Avon, Villa Restal. 278 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:52.500 And so I was staying at my grandparents that night because my parents had gone off to a wedding. 279 00:23:52.500 --> 00:23:58.920 And I said to my nan, I watched Blake 7 at midnight on Saturday nights and naturally she said, you're not staying up till midnight. 280 00:23:58.980 --> 00:24:03.900 Well, I threw maybe the biggest tantrum of my childhood. 281 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:04.859 Ring mum and dad. 282 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:06.960 Tell them that I watched basically she couldn't ring them. 283 00:24:07.019 --> 00:24:08.880 Obviously, it was days for mobile phones. 284 00:24:08.940 --> 00:24:17.819 So I went to bed at like 10 o'clock or whatever, absolutely stewing and thinking, right, well, I'm just going to stay here and stay awake until... 285 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:23.880 And so I woke up at 7 o'clock the next morning in a filthy mood. 286 00:24:23.940 --> 00:24:26.160 So that's my power play anecdote. 287 00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:27.779 I didn't see it again until 1990. 288 00:24:28.140 --> 00:24:30.359 That is incredibly tragic. 289 00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:34.319 One of the formative moments of my childhood. 290 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:43.200 So we catch up with Villa back on Planet Chenga and see how he's doing. 291 00:24:43.259 --> 00:24:46.259 It's a great reintroduction to Villa, isn't it? 292 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:58.079 I think if this sort of season is a jumping on point, when he's there, he's injured, he's pretending he's got like 10 men under his command and he's sort of giving orders to keep people away. 293 00:24:58.140 --> 00:25:06.960 It shows, yeah, he's sort of his cleverness is sort of different to Avons and the other characters and it's more about sort of subterfuge and deception like that. 294 00:25:07.019 --> 00:25:09.960 I thought that was a great reintroduction to him for new viewers. 295 00:25:10.019 --> 00:25:18.180 Yeah, and and it's nice that he gets this kind of long film sequence all to himself having been barely in the previous week. 296 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:18.900 Yeah. 297 00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:23.940 You know, sort of really, um, remind everybody that this is an important character. 298 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:28.920 I think the idea of splitting up the crew and then having to track them down is really fun. 299 00:25:28.980 --> 00:25:32.519 And I can't remember Villa ever leading a storyline like this. 300 00:25:32.579 --> 00:25:33.420 It's very watchable. 301 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:35.519 Yeah, it is. 302 00:25:35.579 --> 00:25:37.680 It's very wittily written. 303 00:25:37.740 --> 00:25:38.039 Yeah. 304 00:25:38.099 --> 00:25:40.680 It's interesting actually, because I've got the script. 305 00:25:40.740 --> 00:25:47.400 I watched it earlier with the rehearsal script just to check for any kind of deleted scenes and changes and things. 306 00:25:47.460 --> 00:25:51.420 And there are no scenes in the script that aren't in the episode, unfortunately. 307 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:54.059 And there aren't that many dialogue changes. 308 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:54.660 Okay. 309 00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:59.700 One of them is, um, it's all right if you don't count the agony is not in the script. 310 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:01.319 That's Michael Keaton. 311 00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:01.920 Excellent. 312 00:26:02.099 --> 00:26:04.859 Which I'm really, really pleased with. 313 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:12.119 As a general rule, everyone is letter perfect to the script, except Darrow and Keating get some leeway. 314 00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:12.900 Right. 315 00:26:12.900 --> 00:26:17.160 Darrow fiddles almost every one of his lines a little bit at some point. 316 00:26:17.220 --> 00:26:37.799 He does that match Stratton thing of just, you know, changing rights to correct or putting a pause in or he makes little changes to almost every single line he has. whereas Kiki normally says what is written, but he does put little extra jokes in that obviously they've worked out when they're on location, but yeah, that great line. 317 00:26:37.859 --> 00:26:40.319 That's Michael Keating, not Terry Nation, which is which is brilliant. 318 00:26:40.380 --> 00:26:41.519 Isn't that fascinating? 319 00:26:41.579 --> 00:26:48.660 It does contain my favourite line from Blake 7 of all time, which Peter, this might be yours as well. 320 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.099 I think, maybe, which is that's a very difficult way to commit suicide. 321 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:55.440 Dainers. 322 00:26:55.500 --> 00:26:57.480 Maybe he was cleaning it, so it went awesome. 323 00:26:57.599 --> 00:26:58.140 It went off. 324 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:01.380 They are both brilliant. 325 00:27:01.380 --> 00:27:01.980 Fucking awesome. 326 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.440 This episode is littered with good lines. 327 00:27:04.500 --> 00:27:10.200 The one about where Avon says, oh, and 2 intelligence of Villa, and Terence says, oh, it was an even bet. 328 00:27:10.259 --> 00:27:13.799 And of course, Servelands, I want to see them here. 329 00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:15.720 And I want to see them. 330 00:27:15.779 --> 00:27:16.319 Now. 331 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:29.519 Well, after a number of attempts to end an app, just to jump to the end for a moment, they've tried to sort of end on a funny line and it actually ends on a genuinely funny line for the 1st time I feel in this episode as well. 332 00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:32.400 That line is not in the script. 333 00:27:32.460 --> 00:27:33.420 Right. 334 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:34.500 Is it not? 335 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:35.039 Wow. 336 00:27:35.099 --> 00:27:39.180 No, the script ends differently if I can just grab it. 337 00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:40.380 It ends slightly differently. 338 00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:44.339 So you have welcome to the liberator and you are welcome to it. 339 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:51.839 Um, and Callie's line is, given the choice, where would you rather be here or sitting in a ditch with a broken arm? 340 00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:54.359 And Villa says, I'm thinking about it. 341 00:27:54.779 --> 00:27:57.059 And that's what's in the script. 342 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.900 But obviously on screen, you get the pun. 343 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.900 Would you rather be spare parts down there or spare parts? 344 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.079 So that must have come in rehearsals. 345 00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:15.420 Which is a fantastic line, and also it gives you that payoff because Dana and Tarrant get the last shot looking at each other going, oh, this is the kind of banter we've signed up for. 346 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:22.319 And also just the fact that it is a pun, but it does tie everything together, doesn't it? 347 00:28:22.380 --> 00:28:27.059 You know, the spare part surgery and the coming back together of the crew. 348 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:30.720 It sort of ties the 2 plot threads together really nicely at the end. 349 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:40.200 I mean, you don't know if it was Maloney or the cast or maybe Boucher, but yeah, it's not, it's not in the scripts are signed off and issued to everybody. 350 00:28:40.259 --> 00:28:40.920 It's just not there. 351 00:28:40.980 --> 00:28:42.180 Isn't that fascinating? 352 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:51.900 I do really like that Villa subplot, although I think that Z and bar might be some of Terry Nation's best slash worst space names ever. 353 00:28:52.079 --> 00:29:00.359 They're not quite up there with these 2 syllable foul names, you know, Taron, Marat, Lartep, Weber, but they are awesome. 354 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.220 Ziambari. 355 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:07.920 When they're described, they are described as very attractive girls and then girls is in capital. 356 00:29:10.980 --> 00:29:17.039 And the costume, the costumes that said they should be space age sexy, is what he asked for. 357 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:23.819 I mean, there is there isn't an universe reason for that because Villa's head is only turned by a pretty girl. 358 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:29.400 It's just a very straightforward inversion as well, isn't it? 359 00:29:29.460 --> 00:29:52.380 That, you know, the, the people who look like the good guys are the people who are the bad guys and vice versa, you know, and the script does say that Nation says he doesn't mind which way around it is, but Z and Barr should be of the same ethnic group as the doctors running the hospital and on Kelly's ship and that the savages should be different. 360 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:54.180 Of the ball, definitely, than this should be. 361 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:54.539 Yes. 362 00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:56.220 Yeah, yes, yes. 363 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.900 John Hollis squeezing this in between Professor Sondegard and Lobot in the Empire Strikes bag. 364 00:30:01.500 --> 00:30:04.019 And I'm wearing it now. 365 00:30:04.259 --> 00:30:08.039 Isn't he the head of Blowfelt in Fjores only as well? 366 00:30:08.099 --> 00:30:10.740 Yes, yes, I think I think you're right. 367 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:15.599 I do love that after that whole, there's 10 of us. 368 00:30:15.660 --> 00:30:18.000 They don't know a certain depth to take us off. 369 00:30:18.059 --> 00:30:21.240 John Wallace is just like, who are you talking to, this? 370 00:30:21.299 --> 00:30:23.220 No, no, we've been around. 371 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:24.660 We've been circling you for 2 hours. 372 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:25.799 There's no one else here. 373 00:30:25.859 --> 00:30:28.980 And it's just so lovely and matter of fact. 374 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:33.480 And you get that beautiful wide shot and they've bought the escape pod out on location. 375 00:30:33.539 --> 00:30:35.220 So it looks really, really great. 376 00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.759 And I'm just a big fan of John Hollis anyway. 377 00:30:38.819 --> 00:30:52.319 He plays a villain in some early Avengers episodes, including one with Charlotte De Rampling, and Donald Sutherland is his co-villain in the Superlative 7. 378 00:30:52.380 --> 00:30:55.259 And Brian Blessed, without a Beard is in that. 379 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.200 Do you know that Insignus Alpha? 380 00:30:58.259 --> 00:31:01.319 Brian Blessed is clean shaven and wearing a false beard. 381 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.000 I did not. 382 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.619 Go back and look. 383 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:05.940 You can tell, you know. 384 00:31:06.059 --> 00:31:06.779 How is this? 385 00:31:06.779 --> 00:31:07.980 Activated me all these years. 386 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.920 It's the 1st thing you did after right, Claudius. 387 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.900 Ah, and I don't know if he turned off in rehearsals and they were like, where's your beard, Brian? 388 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.920 But if you go, look, you can see once you know. 389 00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:21.180 He said, I brought it with me. 390 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:22.140 It's in my pocket. 391 00:31:23.220 --> 00:31:29.519 It's a clean shaven, Brian Blessed, wearing a false beard to look more like Brian Blessed. 392 00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:50.579 I think the, with the high-tech, the, uh, when you see just the lights through the trees and it's on film and there's that sound effect, that's really, really effective and you can't quite make out what you're seeing. 393 00:31:50.700 --> 00:31:54.539 You don't realise that it's just people holding sort of guns or scanners or whatever. 394 00:31:54.660 --> 00:32:03.059 Um, that's quite creepy uh, to begin with when uh, the, the, sort of the so-called savages and uh, and Avon are running away from them. 395 00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:08.279 Yeah, that was that was really good. really looking at the screen trying to make out what's actually chasing them at that point. 396 00:32:08.339 --> 00:32:13.079 I thought it was like some clever drones and they were doing these drones flying in. 397 00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:15.960 And I was like, no, I can see the actor behind it. 398 00:32:16.019 --> 00:32:19.440 Oh, it's shit special effects that, you know, they've not done this properly. 399 00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:20.160 Oh, no. 400 00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:21.000 You know? 401 00:32:21.059 --> 00:32:28.140 And it turns out to be Zibar. those scenes, those scenes were written to be shot at night. 402 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.319 The script specifies that their night is a night sheet. 403 00:32:31.380 --> 00:32:32.940 Oh, Terry, you knew that wasn't going to happen. 404 00:32:34.019 --> 00:32:40.920 Obviously it isn't, but it would be even more effective if it was dark because it would be like, what are they? 405 00:32:40.980 --> 00:32:41.819 Are they flying machines? 406 00:32:41.819 --> 00:32:42.839 Are they animalize? 407 00:32:42.900 --> 00:32:45.720 Um, you know, exactly what is it? 408 00:32:46.019 --> 00:32:51.839 I think it works in the episode, like you said, but if it was darker, it would be even more effective. 409 00:32:51.900 --> 00:32:59.940 I mean, it's kind of shot day for nice or maybe very late in the day because it's very dim, but I think Dave, it just shows you. 410 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:08.759 David Maloney is ringing everything out of the script in the hands of, dare I say it, Penet Roberts in series A. It would have been fairly risible, I think. 411 00:33:08.819 --> 00:33:17.519 I actually have a list or I have some notes of, because in the script, Terry kind of tries to direct it through the script a bit. 412 00:33:17.579 --> 00:33:22.259 As writers do, particularly senior writers describing how he wants things shot. 413 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:26.039 And a lot of those, Maloney does something completely different instead. 414 00:33:26.220 --> 00:33:33.660 So I don't know if you'd be interested in some examples of things that we know that David Maloney bought through the process of directing. 415 00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:34.380 Oh, go on. 416 00:33:34.380 --> 00:33:44.160 For example, seeing the spear in shot when Villa is accosted by the primitives for the 1st time, that's not scripted. 417 00:33:44.220 --> 00:33:51.599 It's the idea that the audience sees the spear and Villa doesn't and he's looking at us and then he looks down and then you come back. 418 00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:58.380 What's written is that they kind of come up behind him and the audience see them, but he doesn't. 419 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:07.079 But doing it with the spear is a much kind of wittier way of implementing the same, the same physical, um, thing. 420 00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:09.420 I think that's a that's a really good example. 421 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:12.900 Um, none of the point of view shots are scripted. 422 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:20.880 Oh, yeah. that we have in the, in the liberator, um, you know, in the liberator, murder mystery. 423 00:34:20.940 --> 00:34:24.000 Well, they're creeping up on the guard outside Avon and Dana's room. 424 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:25.199 Yeah. 425 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:30.420 The other thing I think is quite interesting is that Villa being spoon fed by Zian Barr. 426 00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:32.820 That's not in the scratch. 427 00:34:32.940 --> 00:34:34.380 Lovely fried rice I think you'll find. 428 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:50.639 But I think, you know, you talk about villa or, you know, I was only going to be interested by a pretty girl, that sort of slight infantilising of him and making him more helpless and in the script he's just given some food and he sits and eats it with his hands whilst they, whilst they talk to him, which I think is really nice. 429 00:34:50.880 --> 00:35:02.820 Um, Also, amazingly, for possibly the 1st time in the history of Blake 7 or Doctor Who, uh, nation asks for 4 extras as troopers, and David Baloni has five. 430 00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:13.139 They actually get, they actually get more bodies than they ask for. which means that at the end, in the last scene. 431 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:16.260 It's 3, well, in the last scene of the murder story. 432 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:23.639 It's 3 against three, whereas if you'd gone with what was scripted, it would be 3 against two, it sort of raises the stakes to do it that way. 433 00:35:23.699 --> 00:35:25.079 And also, it's the beginning of the season. 434 00:35:25.139 --> 00:35:26.579 They can push the boat out a little bit. 435 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:34.440 Yeah, they've still got, they've still got money in the, uh, in the Nicker elastic fund, as JNT used to call it. 436 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.980 Something on one of those POV shots. 437 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:44.280 I was curious about because the 1st guard, of course, is Pat Gorman. famous Doctor Who Monster actor. 438 00:35:44.340 --> 00:35:47.280 And I thought, okay, here comes a stunt. 439 00:35:47.340 --> 00:35:51.059 Um, and it's like, no, they just walk out. 440 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.460 He's in a chair, he's got the knife, he falls on the ground. 441 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:59.699 And of course, Max Faulkner, who turns up later, gets thrown across the room because there's Max Faulkner twice, I think. 442 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:07.739 So is I was wondering, James, is there anything in the script about the death of that 1st guard that isn't on screen? 443 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:09.840 Like, does the POV shot continue and someone? 444 00:36:09.900 --> 00:36:10.800 No, interesting. 445 00:36:10.860 --> 00:36:11.579 Okay, fair enough. 446 00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:13.380 Transitionally relevant. 447 00:36:13.500 --> 00:36:21.179 Did you know Pat Gorman is in more episodes of Old Dot 2 than anybody who isn't William Harton or Patrick Trout and John Perby, Tom Baker or Fraser Hines? 448 00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:21.539 Wow. 449 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:21.900 Wow. 450 00:36:21.900 --> 00:36:23.820 I don't I don't know. 451 00:36:24.059 --> 00:36:30.840 The only difference there is that it's not a, it's not a POV shot. the only difference. 452 00:36:30.900 --> 00:36:34.019 There's nothing kind of elaborate or exciting. 453 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:41.039 I mean, Gorman did want to do more acting work, so maybe David Maloney was being nice. 454 00:36:41.099 --> 00:36:51.960 Maybe he was saying here's a little, here's a little acting part and you won't have to leap around. will get Max to do the tricky stuff and you can have a higher paid and less strenuous week. 455 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.639 The other thing we get in this episode is an actual space dome. 456 00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:59.039 Uh, I have no idea. 457 00:36:59.159 --> 00:36:59.639 Where is that? 458 00:36:59.699 --> 00:37:02.340 Uh, I know they filmed it up. 459 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:07.199 I think it was in York, Yorkshire, something like that up north, but I assumed it was a gasometer. 460 00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:07.800 Right. 461 00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:13.440 There's not a location list in the script, but there's a list of dates filming at Ripon. 462 00:37:13.500 --> 00:37:15.659 So that's nature, so it would be. 463 00:37:15.659 --> 00:37:23.940 I really like the fact that when we go inside, they've made a token effort of painting the backdrop, so it looks a little bit like the dome. 464 00:37:24.059 --> 00:37:25.980 Very token. 465 00:37:26.579 --> 00:37:29.400 I'd never noticed that before this time. 466 00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:30.659 I'm watching this time. 467 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:31.980 I was like, that's really good. 468 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.519 I was actually really impressed by that. 469 00:37:35.579 --> 00:37:37.559 So obviously I'm he pleased. 470 00:37:37.619 --> 00:37:45.780 I was going to say, and speaking of dorms, Servland's found a brass since last week and managed to find a way off the planet. 471 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.579 Do we think it's the same planet that Dana came from, but the weather's turned a bit inclement that she's rescued from? 472 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.199 That's a good question. 473 00:37:52.260 --> 00:37:56.159 It does look completely different, doesn't it, in the model footage. 474 00:37:56.219 --> 00:37:58.320 Although it's really nice model work, so I don't mind. 475 00:37:58.380 --> 00:38:04.440 I mean, I can only assume that the model work was done before location work, but yeah, it's really quite glaring, isn't it? 476 00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:07.079 She could be in a different part of the planet. 477 00:38:07.139 --> 00:38:12.059 A network of tunnels from the bunker that's, yeah, that she's able to. 478 00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:13.679 I mean, it is a terrination script. 479 00:38:13.739 --> 00:38:14.340 It's pretty likely. 480 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:21.900 Yeah, she just turned her travel dial and found herself in the wings of madness or whatever. 481 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:28.980 I mean, that 3rd plus at the episode, the Callian Serveland plot, I think, is even more enjoyable than the plot with Villa. 482 00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:36.539 It's great that she gets to be bitchy with Servlan. and like we said earlier, establishing that personal relationship between them that never existed. 483 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:43.019 And that comedy sting when Kelly turns her head away to avoid being noticed is... 484 00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.619 To nudge fashion script again. 485 00:38:46.739 --> 00:38:52.500 I did notice this week that nation asks for 6 beds in that hospital room and he gets two. 486 00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:59.159 And he asked for quite a lot of extras and he gets none. 487 00:38:59.219 --> 00:39:11.400 And he said, can I have a poorly acted nurse and said they have an amazingly acted nurse who says things like I gave the captain your message, but I'm afraid he does have more pressing priorities. face Angela Rippon. 488 00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:13.980 Well, it is filmed in Rippon. 489 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:15.059 Exactly. 490 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:25.019 To go back to your thing about Servoland's, I'm president and supreme commander of the Terran Federation, I want to see a commanding officer, I want to see him here and I want to see him now. 491 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:25.860 Well done. 492 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:40.800 A friend of mine, when it was on UK gold in the 19s, missed a phone call because his phone was ringing and he felt obligated as that scene was on the television to stand there and recite the line with her and do the hand gestures. 493 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:51.360 And then the phone stopped ringing and he was like, ah. on the Kelly plot. 494 00:39:51.420 --> 00:39:54.360 I realised at the end of the episode, it's like Jan gets a great week. 495 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.719 She only has one scene where she's not sitting or lying down. 496 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:02.579 Like when she sees Villa and reception and goes over and gives him a hug. 497 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.500 That's the only scene where she's on her feet. 498 00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.179 I really love that moment. 499 00:40:06.300 --> 00:40:07.440 It's genuinely heartwarming. 500 00:40:07.860 --> 00:40:20.340 We don't know that the space ambulance is going to the same planet for quite a while, do we, that Villa's on, so the way those 2 seemingly separate storylines come together is really, really nice. 501 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.199 It's gorgeous, though. 502 00:40:22.260 --> 00:40:25.860 I mean, it's slightly undermined by the fact that when Villa and Kelly are prepared for surgery. 503 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.780 They leave their teleport bracelets on them. 504 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:34.679 It doesn't quite make sense, but I actually really like that organ bank scenario. 505 00:40:34.739 --> 00:40:36.599 It's quite grim, even for Blake 7. 506 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.039 Each to your own, you know. 507 00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:41.099 It's, again, it's another twist, right? 508 00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:45.840 It's another reveal and suddenly they can't move and but you're absolutely right. 509 00:40:45.900 --> 00:41:00.840 It's like they've still got the teleport bracelets on, and Servolin has never seen a teleport bracelet before, and so wouldn't gone, by the way, guys, you probably want to remove those, but um, yeah, it's got a really strong A-plot and a really strong A-plot. 510 00:41:00.900 --> 00:41:01.500 Yeah. 511 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.119 And another strong A-plot. 512 00:41:03.659 --> 00:41:10.860 And actually, Servline is really, when she comes to gloat and like, catches on the villa's there as well. 513 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.340 She's really loving the fact that they're going to be chopped up into organs. 514 00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:15.420 It's really venomous. 515 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:16.559 I came to say goodbye. 516 00:41:17.579 --> 00:41:20.340 She really, really enjoys it, doesn't she? 517 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.039 Yeah, and it's just like, I'm not even going to do it myself. 518 00:41:23.099 --> 00:41:26.579 I'm just going to leave them to do this to you. 519 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:33.300 Yeah, because I was thinking that Servilan having managed to talk a way out of it through sort of bribery or anything like that. 520 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:34.559 Why didn't they try that? 521 00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:40.380 Because the liberators got all these, all these kind of riches aboard hasn't it? 522 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:46.739 which it reminds you of in this episode when one of the guards sort of steals something, but they don't know the liberators coming, do they? 523 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:48.480 So they can't sort of rely on that. 524 00:41:48.539 --> 00:41:53.639 But you maybe have expected Villa to sort of, you know, then start try and spin his way out of it in some way. 525 00:41:54.119 --> 00:42:07.619 Yeah, well, Servan's kind of relying on, don't provoke an intergalactic diplomatic incident by chopping up the ruler of a nearby space empire because that's going to happen very, very badly for you. 526 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.679 President, supreme commander and chop Siri of the Federation. 527 00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:20.880 Do you notice how, again, like without spoilers, her every time, pretty much every time she appears in this series, her title gets longer. 528 00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:24.179 She adds, she adds more things. 529 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:32.940 So, like, I mean, without saying, but, like, keep an eye as you go through this season, guys, you will see that she she keeps adding extra bits onto the end of her titles. 530 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:40.679 It gets more and more grandiose, so she's sort of consolidating herself in that position to which she's been elevated at the end of Star one. 531 00:42:40.739 --> 00:42:44.699 Doesn't Tarrant read out the string of them at some and it takes about half an episode. 532 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.019 Holder of the sacred channel of reeks. 533 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:57.480 Yeah, yeah, and Defender of Death. 7 out of Spatershead. of the 13 year olds and Battle Queen of the Shrats. 534 00:42:57.659 --> 00:43:04.320 Well, the other thing is, we just talked about everyone's full name being announced like Villa Restal and Kerr Avon. 535 00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:08.099 Is Servolan her 1st name or her 2nd name? 536 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.380 Isn't she like Jane Servile? 537 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:12.659 I think she is... 538 00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:13.440 All right. 539 00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:16.559 Or Servoland, Servoland. sort of full name. 540 00:43:16.619 --> 00:43:16.800 Okay. 541 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:19.500 She's like Madonna, isn't she? 542 00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:20.280 It's just one name. 543 00:43:20.340 --> 00:43:28.440 Yeah, it's like the long running debate over whether meatloaf's name was meatloaf something, meatloaf or meat loaf. 544 00:43:28.500 --> 00:43:41.820 And a friend of mine, a friend of mine proposed that his name was actually Meetle O. Something I wondered, and it's never occurred to me before and I don't know why. 545 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:47.820 Is it ever actually established why the liberator has that strong vault? 546 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:55.920 Because it has it from like Cygnus Alpha because Jenna comes in and she's like, look, Ruby's, BBC plastic rubies. 547 00:43:55.980 --> 00:44:03.000 Like, the only thing I can come up with in universe, because outside of universe, it's just Terry Nation going, well, they have to pay for things. 548 00:44:03.059 --> 00:44:06.599 These, you know, these criminals and outlaws can't just go around stealing stuff. 549 00:44:06.659 --> 00:44:11.159 But the only thing I can think of is when Zen reads their minds. 550 00:44:11.219 --> 00:44:13.500 He's like, oh, rubies. 551 00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:15.239 Yeah, got a shitload of hours out of the back. 552 00:44:15.300 --> 00:44:15.659 Here you go. 553 00:44:16.860 --> 00:44:24.480 I think you'll find the reason is that Space Betan and Space Castia were accustomed to a certain lifestyle and they weren't going to give it up. 554 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:31.139 I would also like to point out that Cali was badly burned in a space accident. 555 00:44:31.139 --> 00:44:32.579 A space accident. 556 00:44:33.059 --> 00:44:36.840 I think you'll find they were space burns in a space accident. 557 00:44:37.019 --> 00:44:40.800 I mean, we talked about the whole crew like picking them up. 558 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:48.960 I do find it a little bit odd that Blake and Jenner's situations are given so much specific info when there's no follow-up. 559 00:44:49.019 --> 00:44:52.980 So it sort of dropped after this with just a couple of mentions. 560 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.380 But did they just give up looking for Jenna? 561 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.579 They know she's on a neutral cargo thruster in transit to the planet more finial. 562 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:04.380 They know exactly where to find her and yet she's never mentioned again until one time. 563 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:19.980 Yeah, I'm really fascinated, but by the way, they keep mentioning Blake and Jenner, uh, and we were sort of 2 episodes into the new series, but, uh, you know, we talked in the warship episode about how, you know, the characters have left, but there's no definitive, yes, they're gone from the ship. 564 00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:24.059 It's, you know, they're still actively looking for them and checking up on themselves. 565 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:28.440 It's a really, really interesting way of doing it. you know, for viewers at the time. 566 00:45:28.500 --> 00:45:34.739 Uh, you know, I don't know if, you know, how much it was announced in the press or whatever, that the actors were leaving. 567 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:40.079 But yeah, it must have been, I suppose, kept you guessing at the time if you were watching these as they went out. 568 00:45:40.139 --> 00:45:46.500 I mean, at the start of next week's episode, Volcano will have a fairly fleeting mention of looking for Blake. 569 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.599 And that's the last we ever hear about it. 570 00:45:48.659 --> 00:45:53.760 It's just curious that they put so much emphasis on it and then drop it like a hot potato. 571 00:45:54.659 --> 00:45:59.820 Do you think it's a terry thing that Chris isn't so keen on? 572 00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:01.619 Yeah, could possibly be. 573 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:10.139 And I know also there was early plans in the season. that the search for Blake was going to take up more of the story and they're actually going to find his grave halfway through the season. 574 00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:14.039 So it could have been something to do with that and then they just went in a different direction. 575 00:46:14.099 --> 00:46:15.599 But actually, I do quite like it. 576 00:46:15.659 --> 00:46:27.239 I like the fact that we have such specific info about the fact that Blake and Jenner are in a certain place and they are traceable rather than them just sort of disappearing from the season whether we haven't heard from them. 577 00:46:27.300 --> 00:46:37.920 But it's just that thing that, they tease John Sim and his character so much in ashes to ashes, and then never, ever deliver it. 578 00:46:37.980 --> 00:46:41.699 And it becomes incredibly frustrating. 579 00:46:41.760 --> 00:47:10.440 And I do think there's a danger that, you know, unless you've got somebody contracted to come back at a certain point or you've got a handshake agreement, that an actor will come back and do a thing, to tease something that you probably won't be able to deliver or that you have no intention of delivering, can really derail your show, and, you know, really derails those those shows, I think, and maybe they were just... really keen to not wind up in a situation like that. 580 00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:20.519 We had it quite recently, didn't we, in the 3rd season of Star Trek Picard, which is an extremely good season of that, where they keep mentioning Admiral Janeway. 581 00:47:20.579 --> 00:47:26.940 And then she doesn't turn up and you have the same kind of thing where you think, oh, don't keep talking about her if she's not actually going to put in an appearance. 582 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:41.760 There's probably way they could do it with Blake, and I say, I don't know where it goes, is, is you could just hear about his still fermenting rebellion, you know, sort of elsewhere in the galaxy or whatever, and, uh, and they're just kind of, you know, supporting it on the uh, on the liberator. 583 00:47:41.820 --> 00:47:45.059 His rebellion being organised from the waitress car park. 584 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.260 Yeah. 585 00:47:47.940 --> 00:47:54.300 Gareth Thomas was married to Sheila Wells, who was the makeup designer on Blake 7. 586 00:47:54.360 --> 00:48:12.659 Oh, and there is actually, he was actually on location for one of the mid-season episodes he wasn't in because he wasn't, he wasn't working and she had to go around in makeup location. and I can't remember which episode it is, but there are photographs of him on location for a season C episode. 587 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.599 Or is he playing Tarantin Longshot or something? 588 00:48:15.659 --> 00:48:23.280 But it's just it's just kind of Gareth in a jumper with a cigarette. surrounded by surrounded by a version of the program that he's not in. 589 00:48:23.340 --> 00:48:24.780 Better version. 590 00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:31.380 In the days of Twitter had been around then, it would have gone crazy, wouldn't it, with speculation? 591 00:48:32.579 --> 00:48:44.400 The Blake 7 Liberator Chronicles volume 6 is set early in this series and attempts to explain why they stopped looking for Blake and Jenner. 592 00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:49.320 So there's one story, which is a Avon Tarrant story. 593 00:48:49.380 --> 00:48:56.099 Another story which is Jenna's story, and that's what it's called, and the final one is Blake's story. 594 00:48:56.159 --> 00:49:01.500 And they're very good and they offer the most canonical explanation we're going to get. 595 00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.940 The universal reason should have been that Avon didn't want to. 596 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:11.760 He didn't want to find Blake, and that could have been dealt with, and it could have been an interesting character beat. 597 00:49:11.820 --> 00:49:18.119 But they sort of shy away from that maybe as part of trying to make even a more heroic figure, but it would have been interesting. 598 00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:29.519 But it's quite interesting actually, again, to go back to the script, is that one of the lines that is cut, I even has a line where, you know, when he says we need to get on and rescue the others. 599 00:49:29.579 --> 00:49:30.960 Except Blake. 600 00:49:31.019 --> 00:49:34.679 Well, and Dana says why? 601 00:49:34.739 --> 00:49:37.980 And he says, because I might need their help to take back this ship. 602 00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.360 Right. 603 00:49:39.420 --> 00:49:53.219 So maybe having taken back the ship, and already being on course to pick up Villa and Cali, he no longer is going to find them because he doesn't need the help to take back the ship because he doesn't want Blake on his ship anyway. 604 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:58.619 So maybe that's Terry's glimmering explanation, which just, you know, isn't in the finished episode. 605 00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:00.840 It's just, um, it's just not there. 606 00:50:00.900 --> 00:50:07.920 And you can believe from a character point of view that Avon would have quite liked to have Callie around and Villa just happened to be with her. 607 00:50:07.980 --> 00:50:15.780 But I also think from a character point of view, he didn't yet know that Tarrant was a pilot, and so maybe he would have gone after Jenner as well. 608 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:21.059 I mean, it's all a little bit muddy, but it gives a reasonable explanation for why he just stops looking. 609 00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:24.719 Yeah, and he does say about Villa in another episode, doesn't he? 610 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:26.400 As a talented thief is always useful. 611 00:50:26.460 --> 00:50:26.940 Yeah. 612 00:50:26.940 --> 00:50:33.360 So, Villa has his uses to Ava always. is always able to make use of Villa, isn't he? 613 00:50:33.420 --> 00:50:43.920 And do we think, Darren, does enough to earn Avon's trust in this episode to be inducted into, you know, into Zen's sort of command programs at the end? 614 00:50:43.980 --> 00:50:45.239 I was a little bit surprised by that. 615 00:50:45.300 --> 00:50:49.559 With Dana, I think you can see that they've had 2 episodes of adventures together. 616 00:50:49.619 --> 00:50:58.079 Um, whereas you say, say there was Tarrant was still a little bit, um, you know, a bit murky in his origins and whether he was telling the truth. 617 00:50:58.139 --> 00:51:04.860 But when they're, when Avan and Tarrant are together alone in the cell, Terrence got a gun and Avan hasn't. 618 00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:09.480 And at that point, Tarrant could shoot Avon and take the ship himself. 619 00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:13.260 And what he does is hands-avon, the gunner says, you're going to need that. 620 00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:26.099 So, I mean, I think that's the moment that he earns a measure of trust because I think Aden is aware that at that point, it's all over for him in less Tarrant makes that decision. if he goes the other way. 621 00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:28.019 He's completely lost. 622 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.260 So there's an element of trust there from that, I think. 623 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:35.099 Doesn't he still need Avan to access Zen at that point, though. 624 00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:36.179 Yeah, you're right. right. 625 00:51:36.420 --> 00:51:39.539 He needs him alive to... 626 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.340 And also, there are 5 positions on the bridge. 627 00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:43.920 You can't just have four. 628 00:51:45.179 --> 00:51:51.239 Yeah, putting Aurac up in Gan's position. doing more than gather for this. 629 00:51:51.300 --> 00:52:01.500 I have heard an interview with Paul Darrow, where he talks about, you know, of course, as Paul Darrow, I love Stephen and I love Gisette, but as Avon, I complained about that scene. 630 00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:06.300 Paul Darrow said, Avon would not program them into the computer. 631 00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:14.639 He's just he's just, you know, whittled down his competition, basically, for commanding the ship to another 2 people aside from himself. putting them in there. 632 00:52:14.699 --> 00:52:23.579 And David Moloney pretty much said, Paul, we've written the next 6 scripts and they give Zen orders and we're not doing the thing where they give you the order and you give it to Zen. 633 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:25.619 Do you want more line flirt, Paul? 634 00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:27.539 Because that's what will happen. 635 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:29.639 And he's kind of right though, yeah. 636 00:52:29.699 --> 00:52:30.059 Yeah. 637 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:38.460 And the way Darrow tells it is, you know, he just he just kind of laughed it off, but he's like, he's like, you know, it's bothered me for 30 years that A Voden wouldn't do that, but I understand. 638 00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.280 It's a show with more than one person in it. 639 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.059 I don't I don't think he always understands that. 640 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:48.539 He might have taken the opportunity to have wiped Villa's voice print just for fun. 641 00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:52.019 Maybe they could have held it back, couldn't they? 642 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:53.760 They could have said you're not getting that yet. 643 00:52:53.820 --> 00:52:54.480 Yeah. 644 00:52:54.539 --> 00:52:59.579 And they was getting it in 3 or 4 episodes time just to add a kind of little crest. 645 00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:09.300 Can we just have a round of applause for that really beautiful sweeping pan across the Liberator flight deck when we 1st encounter it in this episode? 646 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:14.099 It's clearly been all polished up and repaired between seasons and it looks absolutely gorgeous. 647 00:53:14.219 --> 00:53:16.019 It looks the same. 648 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.840 Which is absolutely good. 649 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:22.559 You're right. 650 00:53:32.099 --> 00:53:35.760 Thank you very much for joining us to talk about PowerPlay. 651 00:53:35.820 --> 00:53:39.420 We'll be back next week, getting ourselves into a lava, discussing volcano. 652 00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:50.760 In the meantime, you can find us wherever you get your podcasts and keep up with us on the maximum power website, maximumpowerpodcast.com, where you'll find links to our Twitter account as well as links to our other podcasts. 653 00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:58.500 Bondfinger, Flight Through Entirety, Jody Into Terror, Trap One, Untitled Star Trek Project, and BJBJ Game Show. 654 00:53:58.619 --> 00:54:00.719 Thank you very much for listening. 655 00:54:00.780 --> 00:54:01.199 Goodbye. 656 00:54:01.260 --> 00:54:01.739 Goodbye. 657 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:02.219 Goodbye. 658 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:03.179 Goodbye. 659 00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:04.199 Goodbye. 660 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:08.099 Switching to manual. 661 00:54:08.219 --> 00:54:10.139 Maximum power on all drives. 662 00:54:13.260 --> 00:54:15.239 Maximum power. 663 00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.239 Thank you very much for listening. 664 00:54:24.300 --> 00:54:24.599 Goodbye. 665 00:54:24.659 --> 00:54:26.039 Goodbye. 666 00:54:26.099 --> 00:54:26.579 Bye. 667 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:27.119 Bye. 668 00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:28.260 Goodbye. 669 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.539 What is the PJPJ? 670 00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:33.059 That took my gaming. 671 00:54:33.059 --> 00:54:33.719 That was your makeup. 672 00:54:33.780 --> 00:54:34.980 Oh, yeah, of course it is. 673 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.079 Sorry, I thought it was the ones we said we were gonna make up. 674 00:54:37.139 --> 00:54:39.000 That was brilliant. 675 00:54:39.059 --> 00:54:39.900 Sorry.