WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 22:00:35 1 00:00:03.660 --> 00:00:06.299 Maximum power. 2 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:15.419 Hello, and welcome back to Maximum Power, the Blake 7 podcast. 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:20.820 We're here to start series C, but not quite in the way you'd imagine. 4 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:25.140 So hello, I am Cy, and I'm joined by... 5 00:00:25.140 --> 00:00:25.980 Hi, I'm Carl. 6 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:28.019 I'm Mark, and I'm Pete. 7 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:46.140 And today we are taking a deep dive into the murky world of Big Finish as we do their very 1st Blake 7 full cast Adventure, Warship, which I have to say is my favourite thing that Big Finish have ever done ever. 8 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:50.340 So you're saying, Simon, is like the TV show, but with no pictures. 9 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:51.960 How is that ever going to catch on? 10 00:00:52.020 --> 00:00:54.299 I don't understand why people are doing this. 11 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:56.520 But apparently there is a bit of demand for it. 12 00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:00.780 Apparently, one or 2 of these things have been extremely successful. 13 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:05.700 Yeah, I think they did a couple of Doctor Who ones and they proved to be a bit popular. 14 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:07.079 Okay. 15 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:13.620 So within Blake 7 fans, this must have been a huge deal when it came out, I take it. 16 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:19.200 Yeah, this was the 1st time they'd managed to get everyone together to record an adventure. 17 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.719 So it was the very 1st full cast adventure. 18 00:01:21.780 --> 00:01:31.500 So what they'd done previous to this was the Liberator Chronicles, which featured 2 or maybe 3 different voices with half narrated, half dialogue adventures. 19 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:40.920 So you'd get Avon and Villa teleporting down to a planet to have an adventure and one of them would take the most of the narration. 20 00:01:40.980 --> 00:01:49.920 The other one would be there for dialogue and banter with each other or whatever, but sort of logistically they found that this worked sort of fairly well. 21 00:01:49.980 --> 00:02:13.319 But then this script came through, and this was actually written as a Liberated Chronicle originally, but everyone could just see the potential with a little bit of tweaking and a bit of clever financial work, we could actually get everyone in together and do this, which is why there are no extra voices apart from the main cast in this one because it's very expensive to do because there's a lot of main cast. 22 00:02:14.099 --> 00:02:16.979 Yeah, that's the real challenge they've got, isn't it? 23 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:24.060 Unlike Doctor Who, where you've got your 2 or 3 regulars that everyone knows, and then you can populate it with new characters as much as your plot requires. 24 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:36.840 This must have been such a challenge, getting, particularly because I think, it's clearly an episode that gives everyone an equal bite of the pie, which isn't something that normally cereals, like, like, 7 or Star Trek could ever do. 25 00:02:36.900 --> 00:02:40.500 Normally you have an episode that's like this week, it's a Blake episode this week. 26 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:47.639 It's a favourite episode, but this one is, I think it's, they did balance that really well, the scripting, to give everybody, it's not seventh, is it? 27 00:02:47.699 --> 00:02:48.300 But no, it is. 28 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:49.800 Yeah, it's not quite. 29 00:02:49.860 --> 00:02:52.560 Maybe Orac doesn't get all that much, but he still does. 30 00:02:53.759 --> 00:03:04.860 Maybe that's not terribly authentic after we've watched series B of Blake 7, where lots of people didn't get an equal share of the pie, but here everyone gets something good to do. 31 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:11.879 Each member of the cast gets their hero moment or their in Villa's case, their moment of panic. 32 00:03:13.259 --> 00:03:15.900 So packed with incident, isn't it? 33 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:25.259 It feels like any of the little subplots would have been half a normal episode of the TV show, like getting the limpet mind aliens off the hull of the liberator. 34 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:27.780 That would be fully half of a TV episode. 35 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:33.300 You know, they would spend that long on it, but there's loads, like say, giving everybody something to do. 36 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:38.939 There's all these little subplots and it's, yeah, it's really, really packed with incidents, great, really re-flies along. 37 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:39.599 Well, exactly. 38 00:03:39.659 --> 00:03:47.520 So you've got Blake and Callie going down to Megiddo to explore, which again would have been sort of a major part of a normal episode. 39 00:03:47.580 --> 00:03:58.319 But this is just sort of the C plot or kind of at that point of the episode and you don't know quite what they're getting into and how important it's going to be. 40 00:03:58.379 --> 00:04:01.139 So yeah, it's really nicely structured, I think. 41 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:09.180 Had any of you listened to any of the other any of the 2 headers before this one? 42 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:15.360 I think I'd heard a couple, because they've been doing them for about 2 years, I think, before this one came out in 2013. 43 00:04:15.539 --> 00:04:16.500 It's his 10th anniversary. 44 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:17.279 I just read this. 45 00:04:17.339 --> 00:04:20.220 It's the 10th anniversary of warship coming out this year. 46 00:04:20.220 --> 00:04:28.079 Because the casts all sound like they know that they're back into their shoes, their character's shoes very comfortably with varying degrees. 47 00:04:28.139 --> 00:04:51.779 I've got a stalking cold at the moment and I feel like I'm like a 60-year-old version of me trying to convince people that I'm myself 40 years ago. my voice is like, and I think I'm much less convincingly me than they are themselves, to varying degrees, especially, I think Michael Keating is just particularly just straight into the comedy patter of villa, especially with that paired up with Avon, of course. 48 00:04:51.779 --> 00:04:55.439 Although, for me, Avon is Paul Darrow now. 49 00:04:55.500 --> 00:04:59.399 It's not like, it's like Tom Baker is not really the 4th doctor. 50 00:04:59.459 --> 00:05:01.980 He's just Tom Baker being Tom Baker because really what's the difference? 51 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:10.680 Because really what's the difference in terms of, in terms of speech patterns and the, the, the, the, the same of, could have said the same of William Shatner, can't you? 52 00:05:10.740 --> 00:05:18.180 there's a point where somebody is so wedded to one character that they've carved out so successfully that it's like, where is there even a line? 53 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:19.319 Why would anyone want a line? 54 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:20.220 Well exactly. 55 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:31.079 And I think you could sense Paul Darrow is just loving being back in the helm and loving playing Avon again, although his voice is much deeper than it was on TV. 56 00:05:31.139 --> 00:05:37.740 It kind of suits the characterisation he's got and he's just, yeah, he's he's absolutely superb. 57 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:38.819 So he's he's really on it. 58 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:48.120 I think the one that always sort of sounds least like he did on TV is Gareth Thomas, whose voice is not quite what it was. 59 00:05:48.180 --> 00:05:53.399 It's not quite John Luke Picard in Picard's stage or... 60 00:05:53.459 --> 00:05:55.620 But it's it's not far off. 61 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.639 It's going kind of huskier, isn't it? 62 00:05:59.699 --> 00:06:00.360 less deep, I think. 63 00:06:00.420 --> 00:06:00.720 Yeah. 64 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:09.600 Yeah, whereas Darrow's voice is deepened and deeper and deepened, which kind of suits the character of Avon with Blake. yeah, you're quite right. 65 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:14.040 It's not his voice isn't as strong, so it doesn't sound quite as commanding. 66 00:06:14.220 --> 00:06:20.220 They're all doing a lot to elucidate in a very Colin Baker kind of way. 67 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:27.720 You know, everyone's lines are very, very, very, very well spoken, even, even more in the TV version. 68 00:06:27.779 --> 00:06:31.259 But I think they also improve, you know, really good. 69 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:34.500 I mean, I think Cali doesn't sound much different at all. 70 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:37.319 No, Jen Chapel's really good, isn't she? 71 00:06:37.379 --> 00:06:37.920 She sounds great. 72 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:39.240 That's a name. 73 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:40.259 Yes. 74 00:06:40.740 --> 00:06:50.759 Paul Darrow's, because he sounds really great and he's very commanding and everything, but there's sort of a slight quality to it that you get when you hear Michael Jason in big finish compared to how he was on TV. 75 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.779 I think Darrow, when Paul Darrow's got a funny line to deliver. 76 00:06:54.839 --> 00:07:00.120 He delivers it now with a bit more relish, like as if he's delivering a funny line at a convention. 77 00:07:00.180 --> 00:07:09.360 That's the bit where I was saying, I think that was what made me think, yeah, this is more Darrow than Avon to a certain extent because he's just, he loves his punchline so much and he loves his witty twists of words. 78 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:11.759 And he gets plenty of them in this. 79 00:07:11.819 --> 00:07:21.180 It's got a good, really good few. comedy moments in a sense of witty dialogue, not like comic hijinks, but yeah, the dialogue here is really, really witty. 80 00:07:21.420 --> 00:07:31.920 What I noticed, I don't know if I can't remember if this was in the TV episodes, that Avon calls Zen and Aurac, it, and everyone else refers to them as him. 81 00:07:31.980 --> 00:07:39.120 Is that something that's, like, is it in the TV show, but it kind of stuck out maybe because I was listening more to the dialogue because it was audio? 82 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:41.399 Has anyone been paying attention the past 2 years? 83 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.800 I have no idea. 84 00:07:43.860 --> 00:07:45.060 Back through my notes. 85 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:48.240 Yeah, but pizza angeladies. 86 00:07:48.300 --> 00:07:58.800 I hope I pronounce it right, um, is very, is so um, sharp on his, on his Blake 7 law and things like that, I would imagine that if it's in the script, it must be because that's what it was, how it was done. 87 00:07:58.860 --> 00:08:06.959 But if it is, then maybe Paul Darrow decided to do it while they were recording, as a way of making him different to everyone else, yeah, you can had to speculate on that, can you? 88 00:08:07.019 --> 00:08:07.680 I'm not sure. 89 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.620 Well, I'm sure someone will tweet in and let us know. 90 00:08:12.300 --> 00:08:16.379 It's interesting the way even commands, he keeps everybody compartmentalise. 91 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:23.759 So he doesn't tell Villa and Jenna, who are left on the ship, that Callie and Blake have gone down to the planet and that kind of thing. 92 00:08:23.819 --> 00:08:26.639 He doesn't sort of let each subteam know what the other ones are doing. 93 00:08:26.699 --> 00:08:29.939 And I couldn't remember if he's not normally in command in the TV show, is he? 94 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:31.920 So, uh, whereas this when he sort of commanding the ship. 95 00:08:31.980 --> 00:08:36.240 But yeah, his sort of leadership style is, he's evasive when they say, well, can't Callie help? 96 00:08:36.299 --> 00:08:38.580 And he says, oh, no, she's tied up doing something else. 97 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:41.580 He doesn't say I've just beamed her down to Megiddo with Blake. 98 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:53.820 You know, because certainly when we go to aftermath, he is in charge, because that's just happened, and this is the transition to him going, look, I'm going to send Blake down with a broken arm and maybe it'll fuck off. 99 00:08:54.480 --> 00:09:04.440 Yeah, it's very interesting that he says, oh, there isn't anyone, we can't spare you, Callie, but we can send Blake off to do this half injured and half dead. 100 00:09:04.500 --> 00:09:05.639 He could go and do this. 101 00:09:05.700 --> 00:09:12.059 It kind of undoes that little bit where they at the end of Star one, they're like, I have always trusted you. 102 00:09:12.179 --> 00:09:15.720 It kind of undoes that a little bit and that's okay. 103 00:09:15.779 --> 00:09:21.600 So, but I mean, I like the way that he actually, I think he has the least to do in this. 104 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:30.120 I like I absolutely love the way that Callie and Jenna are pretty much, I think, the 2 that have the most to do. 105 00:09:30.179 --> 00:09:35.100 Sure, you know, quickly followed by Blake and Villa, but that's my feeling. 106 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:45.720 Yeah, they've all got stuff, but it definitely makes a point of compensating them for their underuse in the previous one year, particularly, doesn't it? 107 00:09:45.779 --> 00:09:46.019 Yeah. 108 00:09:46.080 --> 00:10:01.620 There's a wonderful bit where Callie and Jenna get to have an argument as well once Callie has rescued her after Jenna's about to do her old smuggler's trick again, that we've never, we never get to see her doing her old smuggler's trick at all. 109 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.919 And so she's so close to pulling that off. 110 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.379 And then obviously she's furious about that. 111 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:10.679 So she's got her hero moment that's snatched away from her. 112 00:10:10.740 --> 00:10:16.200 Also really good use of Callie's telepathy all the way through this one, which makes a change. 113 00:10:16.259 --> 00:10:17.460 I know. 114 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:20.039 There's a brilliant line, there's a brilliant line where she does she say something? 115 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:22.980 There must be something about this area of space that makes my telepathy's actually working this week. 116 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:27.299 That's not what she says, but that's the gist of it. 117 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:34.019 Yeah, they've even put in a little bit in the script to say, yeah, this week we're doing it properly, so we better actually give it a reason why we are doing it properly this week. 118 00:10:34.500 --> 00:10:36.960 We've all remembered about it this week. 119 00:10:37.019 --> 00:10:45.720 Yeah, and it leads to that great line where Villa says, can you read my mind and she just snaps back, no one would want to read your mind, Villa, which is absolutely perfect. 120 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:57.299 And of course, we've got one addition to the cast for this, due to the much Mr. Peter Tudman's celestial unavailability. 121 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:00.960 We've got Alistair Locke stepping up to be the 2 computers. 122 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:02.879 Um, I don't know. 123 00:11:02.940 --> 00:11:05.879 I guess he's done them before on the previous ones or had it? 124 00:11:05.940 --> 00:11:10.799 Just done a few odd lines here and there because he was generally doing the sound design. 125 00:11:10.860 --> 00:11:12.480 So he would pop those in. 126 00:11:12.539 --> 00:11:13.740 Ah, I see. 127 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:14.100 Yeah. 128 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.340 And I think, yeah, I think he does them both really well. 129 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:22.019 I don't know, it's not, it's that thing of, do you do an impression or do you do it your own way? 130 00:11:22.019 --> 00:11:25.139 And it's kind of a happy medium of the two. 131 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:35.580 I particularly like Zen saying systems, because I remember that Zen is always pronounced systems, weirdly, with an emphasis on the E, and you keep doing that in it. 132 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.220 Yeah, I think he does a pretty good job overall. 133 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:46.620 And he says that there's bonus interview clips at the end where he talks about, he says it is really, if you're doing 2 characters in an audio, it can be tricky. 134 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:51.960 But fortunately, they were created so individually and such strong personalities and distinctive voices. 135 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:58.019 There's no risk of it sounding, like it's the same person necessarily if you didn't know it was, which is a fair point, yeah. 136 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:23.820 I like the way the script of analyses Blake, quite a lot, you've got it through Cali's sort of interrogation of him when they're down on Megiddo about, you know, kind of almost what is the difference between you and Travis in terms of, you know, by destroying Star one, you're going to sort of potentially kill all these people, so the planets where the weather's controlled. 137 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.759 You know, is that going to sort of lead to natural disasters and things? 138 00:12:26.820 --> 00:12:30.779 And then I thought that bit where he's recording his personal log at the start. 139 00:12:30.899 --> 00:12:35.820 And it sort of stops on the bit where he says he could have killed 1000000s, even 1000000000s and then repeats that bit. 140 00:12:35.820 --> 00:12:57.480 And then he listens to that right at the end and it's, I felt like that was sort of highlighting that thing as well of, you know, where, where he differs from Travis and from the Federation, because he talks about the Federation sort of killing people, to remove and just treating them as numbers, and then he kills the guy who's in suspended animation or whatever, stasis on the planet, and again, you know, by destroying Star one, potentially have killed a lot of people. 141 00:12:57.539 --> 00:13:05.759 I really like the way it doesn't go straight into immediately after Avon says fire at the end of Star one. 142 00:13:05.820 --> 00:13:10.679 It backs up by about five, 10 minutes, replays it, then goes to that. 143 00:13:10.740 --> 00:13:13.259 They reenact the lines and then we go to the credits. 144 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:14.700 I thought that was really nice. 145 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:18.179 It's a really, really good way of interweaving it. 146 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:19.620 I think it should be a bit more of that. 147 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:24.840 You know, you could take particular episodes and do an audio in all the bits in the middle. 148 00:13:24.899 --> 00:13:27.000 Yeah, wrap around, yeah. 149 00:13:27.059 --> 00:13:40.620 Yeah, I think that was one of the things that surprised me when I 1st listened to it, where suddenly your, um, sort of Avon calling Cali back to the flight deck to do the end of Star one, which I wasn't expecting at all. 150 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:42.779 I didn't expect sort of the recreation. 151 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:47.519 And they're almost perfect with their inflections from Star one as well. 152 00:13:47.580 --> 00:13:50.220 I wonder if someone had played the DVD into them. 153 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:52.080 So I said, no, do it like this. 154 00:13:52.139 --> 00:13:53.700 Now this is how you've got to do it. 155 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:56.159 We've got to do this as properly as we can. 156 00:13:56.220 --> 00:13:58.440 And then into the credits. 157 00:13:58.500 --> 00:14:12.240 And then, again, at the very end of the episode when you start getting the bits from the start of aftermath with Zen's messages and villa going off to check the life capsules, which is sort of at the very start of that episode. 158 00:14:12.299 --> 00:14:14.879 So you've got a perfect bridge between the two. 159 00:14:14.940 --> 00:14:23.460 Yeah, I wonder if the maybe they let them watch the end of Star Trek Next Generation, best of both worlds, part one, which is also a reenactment of that exact same thing. 160 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.200 I've mentioned that before and I'm going to keep mentioning it. 161 00:14:25.259 --> 00:14:28.500 It's exact... steal steal from the best. 162 00:14:29.340 --> 00:14:30.779 Fire. 163 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:32.940 I was thinking, well, listen to it. 164 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:51.840 This episode could have been called Power Play, except apparently that title has already been taken by another Blake 7 episode, because there's so much about, they're teeing up Blake and Avon, and there, you know, there's the, where Blake finally calls it our ship. and everyone's like, that'll do for now, or what's that effect? 165 00:14:52.200 --> 00:15:13.679 But yeah, it's not, we're teeing up Blake for that, and we're also teeing up our other character, who's not in with them all, but is certainly a presence, we've got Servolan at the head of her armada, also thinking, making her power play for not caring if the, if Star one gets destroyed as long as she ends up ruling the universe after it. 166 00:15:13.740 --> 00:15:15.480 That's in typical style. 167 00:15:15.539 --> 00:15:17.940 Yeah, the Blake Avon's such brilliant. 168 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:29.399 I really like when Avon Beams, Blake and Callie down to Megiddo, and he says goodbye, Blake, and then after he's beamed down, so he teleported down, he says, and good luck. 169 00:15:29.460 --> 00:15:33.480 So it's like he doesn't want to hear him wishing him good luck. 170 00:15:33.539 --> 00:15:34.080 I thought that was nice. 171 00:15:34.139 --> 00:15:39.659 And the other bit I really like just before that when he approaches Blake to ask him to go to Megiddo. 172 00:15:39.659 --> 00:15:43.500 And they sort of talk a little bit 1st and then Blake goes, what do you want me to do? 173 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:51.120 And Avon answers a little laugh 1st as if like, yeah, he knows me so well, like I wouldn't just be coming to check on his well-being after he'd been shot through the heart. 174 00:15:51.179 --> 00:15:53.279 But he's such a nice subtle little thing. 175 00:15:53.340 --> 00:15:57.659 He just gives a little sort of half laugh and then tells him about the planetoid. 176 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:19.259 Yeah, I think this works really well as a handover episode that we didn't get in the series itself that actually, this is, sort of Blake almost symbolically handing everything over to Avon and Gareth Thomas handing it over to Paul Darrow, which we didn't really get to see. 177 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:22.799 Would we have wanted this as a TV episode? 178 00:16:22.980 --> 00:16:26.940 It would have been an explosive start to series C. 179 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:34.080 Yeah, but I can see why they wanted to start with it being, here we are now. 180 00:16:34.139 --> 00:16:36.240 This is now a show without blaking it anymore. 181 00:16:36.299 --> 00:16:44.220 You don't want the character who's leaving at the end of your previous series to have a big role in the 1st episode of the series that they're not in, I guess. 182 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:45.000 Yeah. 183 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:46.620 I'd actually just contractually. 184 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:50.279 I mean, you know, Yes, they've got a very time in the Rani, right? 185 00:16:50.340 --> 00:16:51.960 Yeah, yes. 186 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:57.000 So I take it then not knowing the sort of the law behind this. 187 00:16:57.059 --> 00:17:00.240 It was unexpected that Gareth Thomas didn't stay on or take it then. 188 00:17:00.299 --> 00:17:04.200 Well, I think he was desperate to get out pretty much from week two, wasn't he? 189 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:05.940 Or something, but they had him contracted. 190 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.500 They had him contracted for 2 years. 191 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:14.819 So no, I think I think it was promoted as being, like the end of series one, sorry, the end of series 2 was promoted as being his departure. 192 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.339 It was like Blake, Blake, Blake leaves. 193 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:21.839 So yeah, at some point they took that decision to go on with Derek will get tweets now saying that this is all wrong. 194 00:17:21.900 --> 00:17:26.880 But, yeah. once they'd decided that they would carry on anyway. 195 00:17:26.940 --> 00:17:29.220 For one, for just one more year. 196 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.039 That was the thing that was going to be just one more year without Blake. 197 00:17:32.220 --> 00:17:35.220 So why they didn't definitively write him out. 198 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:37.980 I mean, at the end of series B, if they knew. 199 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.799 Yeah, that is odd. he doesn't get a big final scene. 200 00:17:40.859 --> 00:17:44.160 And in this, he gets the final scene with with Servolan. 201 00:17:44.220 --> 00:17:45.960 He gets to say, well, Silverland. 202 00:17:46.019 --> 00:17:46.559 It's not been. 203 00:17:46.619 --> 00:17:49.799 I wish it could say it's been a pleasure, which she said to someone else earlier, I think. 204 00:17:49.859 --> 00:17:55.740 It's like, in the same episode, in warship, which is a nice bit of looping round. 205 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:00.000 But yeah, he gets a final, a final farewell scene to Serverland in this. 206 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:02.099 Spoilers. where it's not a spoiler. 207 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:09.059 And then gets the final scene himself as well as he's leaving the ship one last time. 208 00:18:09.420 --> 00:18:12.660 And he echos the line from the 1st episode, doesn't he? 209 00:18:12.779 --> 00:18:13.680 Yeah, I'm coming back. 210 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:16.740 The, yeah, yeah, kind of recognise that, yeah. 211 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:19.980 But not for a little while Spoiler alert. 212 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:24.359 What was Gareth Thomas's redoing? 213 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:30.240 And again, this might not be interesting. the listeners who might already know this, but what did he not like about it, then, was, you know, enjoying it? 214 00:18:30.299 --> 00:18:42.480 A lot of the problem was that he meets all the other actors who'd be at the RSC and they'd be taking the piss saying, oh, you're just doing this crappy sci-fi series. 215 00:18:42.539 --> 00:18:43.259 Why are you doing this? 216 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:47.279 You could be coming here and doing Coriolanus with us at the RSC. 217 00:18:47.339 --> 00:18:49.200 Come on, come back to where you belong. 218 00:18:49.259 --> 00:18:51.299 This is, it's almost like... 219 00:18:51.299 --> 00:18:54.660 You can be thinking of, this is beneath, beneath you and your talents. 220 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:59.279 You could be the new Patrick Stewart, but instead you're making a silly series about outer space. 221 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:04.440 It's peer pressure. 222 00:19:04.500 --> 00:19:08.880 Again, there was a lot of actors sort of saying, come on, you're better than this. 223 00:19:08.940 --> 00:19:10.799 Come and come back to the stage. 224 00:19:10.859 --> 00:19:12.960 And stage work was his 1st love. 225 00:19:13.019 --> 00:19:14.099 Yeah. 226 00:19:14.099 --> 00:19:19.740 Paul Darrow is very nice about it in his memoirs, which again, if you haven't listened to them, get them and listen, they are amazing. 227 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:33.299 Paul Darrow manages to do that thing of sort of being slightly acidic, but at the same time, it's quite flattering, the way that he describes Gareth Thomas needed the visceral interaction with his audience and to be there with the new things every week. 228 00:19:33.299 --> 00:19:39.299 And that's what Thomas requires, whereas I, I can't remember what he said. you know, I just want to be a star on telly. 229 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:42.480 That's pretty much what... 230 00:19:42.539 --> 00:19:43.559 Yeah. 231 00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:51.000 So dislike Michael Prade in robbing a show, but then he leaves to go back to the stage as well. kind of some story about that. 232 00:19:51.059 --> 00:19:53.279 Yeah, that means about, yeah. 233 00:19:53.339 --> 00:20:10.200 I'm just people who've trained, so they are so good, as good at acting as that, as these guys are, then find it really, really sort of restrictive, being stuck doing your filming once a week in the same sets every week. 234 00:20:10.259 --> 00:20:10.440 Yeah. 235 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:14.279 But there was no bad blood, obviously, because, yeah. 236 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:19.259 And Sally Nevette was going off at the time to go back and study. 237 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:23.039 So she went off to university to do an English literature degree straight after this. 238 00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:36.599 So thanks to Bruce Purchase from the keeper who'd sort of talked her into it and said, no, you're really clever, you could do this, you can you can sort of push yourself and and do this. 239 00:20:36.660 --> 00:20:38.579 Say it in his voice, Si, say it in his voice. 240 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:43.140 Oh, Sally, you can do this, you fool. 241 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:49.200 Imagine that conversation in the list at broadcasting out. 242 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:55.740 It's sort of quite nice that 40 years on or whatever it was. 243 00:20:55.799 --> 00:21:07.680 They get the chance then to come back and say goodbye and do the do the handover episode that they they don't get because famously in aftermath, they're both written out of the series with one line. 244 00:21:08.099 --> 00:21:11.400 Yeah, and yeah, Jenna really does. 245 00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:19.740 I mean, yeah, it is it is kind of strange that Blake doesn't get a big final farewell scene at the end of series B. But yeah, Jenna, there's not even really a hint that it's her last episode. 246 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:20.460 No. 247 00:21:20.460 --> 00:21:22.259 There's nothing in the story. 248 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:28.079 So it's great in here she gets so much to do and she's out diffusing bombs and she's doing piloting. 249 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:35.039 It's great that she gets to put everything to do everything that she always could have done in a big finale episode for her. 250 00:21:35.220 --> 00:21:45.359 I sort of imagined it was like Carolyn John or Mary Tammin, Doctor Who, where they sort of didn't properly get written out because they, everyone assumed they were going to come back for the next season. 251 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.900 So now it's interesting that they knew and chose to do it that way. 252 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:55.920 Yeah, or I'm not sure if it's the same for her and go, yeah, I wonder if with her they did do the same thing of assuming she'd change her mind or they'd go offer her a pay rise. 253 00:21:55.980 --> 00:21:56.759 I don't know. 254 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:58.680 But she, yeah. 255 00:21:58.740 --> 00:22:03.119 But she was, yeah, she became a theatre teacher, didn't she? 256 00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:20.579 I like how, um, Aurak is depicted just the right way. 257 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:22.079 He's that fussy old professor. 258 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:26.579 He's argumentative and unhelpful, but it's so in character for him. 259 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:31.920 And again, he's not used all that much in the final episodes of the last of the previous series, is he? 260 00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:32.940 It felt a bit underused. 261 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:49.440 The bit about the alien chips aren't made, the computers that the alien have got aren't made of tarriol cells, so he can't read their brains. is a nice rock solid plot reason for him not being able to just magically solve the things this week because that's the trouble when you've got this super computer who does occasionally magically solve everything. 262 00:22:49.500 --> 00:22:57.779 You need a reason to have him not solve the plot in the 1st 5 minutes every week, which often they just don't have. don't mention that he's there. 263 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:03.000 Yeah, and obviously as a person that hasn't seen the next 2 seasons of Blake 7. 264 00:23:03.059 --> 00:23:10.980 Other than I watched aftermath, at Side Suggestion before listening to this, which I'm really pleased, I did, it all sort of tied everything together nice. 265 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:23.819 I'm interested to know if the aliens that they're fighting and they come back at all because there's sort of suggestion that some of them get through and survive, you know, even when there's just the liberated defending the gap sort of thing. 266 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.599 So that's, yeah, it's kind of a tantalising story idea that I'll look out for. 267 00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:34.980 Yeah, we're all very carefully not saying anything. some 3 excellent poker faces. 268 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:46.680 This is random, but every time in this now that they say auto repair is running, and they say it a few times in this because it's a battle. 269 00:23:46.740 --> 00:23:48.119 Obviously, there's a lot of autopangon. 270 00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:50.640 I get the autoglass repair autoglass replacing. 271 00:23:50.700 --> 00:23:53.400 I can't get it out of my head now every time I mention it. 272 00:23:53.460 --> 00:23:58.500 And then I started watching last night I started watching the Star Trek movie reboot, the Kelvin verse one. 273 00:23:58.559 --> 00:23:58.859 Is it? 274 00:23:58.920 --> 00:23:59.640 Call that. 275 00:23:59.700 --> 00:24:03.299 And in that, someone's like, yeah, auto repair is on. 276 00:24:03.299 --> 00:24:04.259 I'm like, ah. 277 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:05.940 Get out of my head now. 278 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:07.980 Villa gets a lovely line about. 279 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:13.259 Finally, we've been on the run from the Federation all this time and finally we want them and they're not here. 280 00:24:13.319 --> 00:24:24.539 It's like much better twisted than that on the you wait for a bus and then 3 turn up at once, but it's that concept flipped around in a very villa way, which is really good. 281 00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:26.460 It's such a great way. 282 00:24:26.460 --> 00:24:32.339 He's chasing the little robot aliens around the ship and but having to do other jobs in between, so they're getting away. 283 00:24:32.339 --> 00:24:35.880 And it's kind of like all his fault that they have to abandon ship. 284 00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:40.380 But also not really his fault because just kind of the way things have panned out and the way that they treat him. 285 00:24:40.500 --> 00:24:47.039 So it's he really plays that kind of very harried, yeah, kind of bumbling kind of thing really well, doesn't he? 286 00:24:47.099 --> 00:24:47.819 Yeah, yeah. 287 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:55.740 And you're always you're always on side with him. made out to be an incompetent or title, you know, mucking things up out of idiocy. 288 00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.180 He's really trying and he nearly does it and it doesn't quite work, which just heightens it all, yeah. 289 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:07.500 Because I did wonder as this was starting up, I was thinking, how is this just going to be an hour long battle scene, you know, how are they going to spread it out? 290 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:18.779 And so then when you get the Megedo, which they try so hard, I love how they spend all the time not pronouncing it as if it's just part of the word Armageddon so that when they eventually do say that, oh, that's very Blake 7. 291 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:23.099 That's very, like, 7 or quite terri nation as well. funny enough. 292 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:24.960 Oh God, I've never noticed. 293 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:26.279 Oh my god. 294 00:25:26.579 --> 00:25:28.680 Oh my goodness. 295 00:25:28.740 --> 00:25:30.119 What have I been doing all this time? 296 00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:33.180 The Armageddon device. 297 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:34.559 Armageddo. 298 00:25:37.619 --> 00:25:39.900 Well, you're too you're too wrapped up in the story. 299 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:40.440 That's good. 300 00:25:40.500 --> 00:25:41.400 That's obviously it. 301 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:53.640 I love all that stuff where they're on the hull of the ship and I'd just like imagining that they'd gone to Ealing to do those scenes for a few days and they've got a big backdrop. 302 00:25:53.700 --> 00:25:59.339 I could see this all in my head in all authentically, Blake 7 manor. 303 00:25:59.579 --> 00:26:05.880 With the CSO snow over the, over Megiddo when they're coming down and all of that. 304 00:26:05.940 --> 00:26:09.960 Yeah, and you can even imagine the makeup on the faces of the people that they find. 305 00:26:10.019 --> 00:26:13.259 It would just be that 1970s slightly slightly bow-ish. 306 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:13.559 Yeah. 307 00:26:13.619 --> 00:26:19.740 Which, but like those scientists at, uh, in Shada at the, uh, research place. 308 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:21.000 That's how I picture them. 309 00:26:21.059 --> 00:26:21.240 Yeah. 310 00:26:21.299 --> 00:26:25.859 Yeah, with that kind of falling down old rusty base. 311 00:26:25.980 --> 00:26:27.000 Yeah, you could see it all. 312 00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:31.319 And it mentions the, was it, the original Federation logo or insignia? 313 00:26:31.380 --> 00:26:32.460 Is that something that we've seen? 314 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:33.779 I couldn't I couldn't recall it. 315 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:35.160 No, I don't think we've... 316 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:36.599 Maybe it's the right thing. 317 00:26:36.660 --> 00:26:39.480 Yeah, maybe it's like the Star Trek picture itself. 318 00:26:39.779 --> 00:26:43.079 You're saying it's like the Star Trek Federation and they've just turned it round a bit. 319 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:44.759 Exactly. right. 320 00:26:45.660 --> 00:26:48.240 And maybe that's why they can't show it. 321 00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:51.299 But it's that maybe it's that kind of little nod. 322 00:26:51.779 --> 00:26:55.019 That will go through sort of everyone's head, perhaps. 323 00:26:55.559 --> 00:27:00.839 Right I love the little bit, the little crossover of where they talk about the flotilla of ships. 324 00:27:00.900 --> 00:27:03.359 That's a nice word for it. coming. 325 00:27:03.539 --> 00:27:07.859 I just in my mind's eye, I know what the alien ships all look like. 326 00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:16.380 God knows what the flotilla of human ships sort of look like going into battle with them made out of the same collection of plastic utensils and things spinning around. 327 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.119 They all look like the London. 328 00:27:18.180 --> 00:27:21.359 Oh, they all did, that's true, yeah. 100 versions of the London. 329 00:27:21.420 --> 00:27:22.259 Okay, well, that's fine. 330 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:23.819 Certainly not the best. 331 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:33.660 It's a nice little nod to both Winston Churchill and Battlestar Galactica, the idea of these the little ships coming to the rescue. nicely done. 332 00:27:33.779 --> 00:27:39.720 I just loved that they'd come from all the planets that were named at the start of Star one. 333 00:27:39.779 --> 00:27:45.839 So Vilka and Haran and Carl Fensus, Harnop, Maron, and Palmero. 334 00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:48.359 I'd noted them all down because I'm so pleased. 335 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:50.579 It was interesting. 336 00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:58.680 Blake had that line about how they, how, you know, they're all rallying to defend themselves against the aliens, but they never rules up against the Federation. 337 00:27:58.740 --> 00:28:01.619 That was kind of an interesting line from Blake. 338 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:11.039 And there's a lot about Blake's kind of or perceived self-aggrandizement, especially from Avon about, you know, it's not always about you. you know, kind of leading people, inspiring people. 339 00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:17.579 That was, there's quite a lot, which carries on from the TV, so it doesn't sort of puncturing his ego, I suppose, ego of it. 340 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:19.859 Yeah, it's like, basically the problem is you, Blake. 341 00:28:19.980 --> 00:28:22.200 They would have all gang up years ago. 342 00:28:22.259 --> 00:28:23.700 It's so annoying. 343 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:29.220 So your posh protests have just annoyed everyone instead of making them join your course. 344 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.559 Yeah, no one wants a centrist uprising. 345 00:28:31.619 --> 00:28:33.000 That's it. 346 00:28:33.779 --> 00:28:38.819 It's like stop oil that they're, yeah, putting the wrong people off. 347 00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:58.619 One of my things that I remember mentioning on a previous episode that I've got this running, like, I don't know, just a joke with myself that how often an alien in science fiction will say something about my people sort of nobly. as I was very happy in this where Callie says, my people have a saying, and everyone comes straight in with, I rather thought they might. 348 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.400 And his follow-up is brilliant as well. 349 00:29:05.460 --> 00:29:07.980 I was saying as well, Blake can handle this. 350 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.279 Yes, yeah. punch line after a punch line. 351 00:29:11.339 --> 00:29:13.140 Yeah, it's a really good script. 352 00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:27.000 This is someone, I think, who, um, in Peter Angelides, who has waited a long time to write this script and has had it playing in his head for 30 odd years, whereas, what would I do between Star one and aftermath if I was given this? 353 00:29:27.059 --> 00:29:27.359 What? 354 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:38.640 Sometimes, you know, characters just write themselves when you know how they will react in any situation and everyone felt authentic and write to their TV characters. 355 00:29:38.700 --> 00:29:45.779 And it did go on to become, it did spur them to do quite a few more full cast ones, didn't that? 356 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:46.200 Is that right? 357 00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:47.220 It did, yes. 358 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:53.339 So, yeah, so they went back to series B for an extra set of 6 adventures. 359 00:29:53.400 --> 00:30:01.680 So with the same crew, which were, yeah, and then they did a series C set of adventures with Del Grant coming back. 360 00:30:01.740 --> 00:30:05.279 Oh cool. which was good. 361 00:30:05.339 --> 00:30:08.880 Yes, but without Dana, because Josette Simon was not coming back. 362 00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:10.859 Yeah, but only as Dana. 363 00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:11.220 Is that right? 364 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:11.819 She'll do other things. 365 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:13.680 Yes, yes, she's done other things. 366 00:30:16.740 --> 00:30:19.920 I don't think it's that she doesn't like Dana. 367 00:30:19.980 --> 00:30:29.579 I think it's just that she's an like Gareth Thomas in a lot of ways where she just wants to keep moving forward all the time and she doesn't go back and she doesn't look back very often. 368 00:30:29.700 --> 00:30:31.500 Yeah, you're right. 369 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:39.000 I just did a fan myth there and I've remembered now seeing that myth busted that she specifically said, no, it's not, that I didn't like Dana. just, yeah, I wanted to do something else. 370 00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:43.319 Yes, but I'll do other stuff, but I don't want to go back and pretend to be 20 or whatever it was. 371 00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:45.720 No, and so they do recast her. 372 00:30:45.779 --> 00:30:54.000 And then they, um, then big finish, because sadly, don't care if Thomas passes away before they go into back, go back and do a set of series one adventures. 373 00:30:54.059 --> 00:30:58.740 So they were going to recast Gan and do full cast adventures for series one. 374 00:30:58.859 --> 00:31:01.079 So they go back to series C. 375 00:31:01.140 --> 00:31:06.000 I'm getting my ones and my Cs and my Bs all over the place now. 376 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.039 This is so we're authentically back. 377 00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:09.779 It's a multiverse. 378 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:10.259 Yeah. 379 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.019 So they go they go forward to series C. 380 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:22.619 So they recast Dana as Yasmin Bannerman, who comes in and plays Dana and they have another complete series C towards the end of series C. if you see what I mean. 381 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.799 So I think he's a set between Death Watch. 382 00:31:25.859 --> 00:31:26.579 Yes. 383 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.759 Series CA and series. 384 00:31:30.660 --> 00:31:32.579 All quite simple. 385 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:37.799 I love if you go to the big finish website and type in Blake 7 without an apostrophe. 386 00:31:37.859 --> 00:31:38.579 It just says nothing found. 387 00:31:39.059 --> 00:31:42.299 You have to type the apostle. 388 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:43.140 Thank you, big finish. 389 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.720 It's like the website's drawn by all right. 390 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:47.700 No. 391 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:49.680 I bet lots of them are up on Spotify. 392 00:31:49.859 --> 00:31:59.400 If you don't mind listening, if you don't mind listening with adverts, you can hear that on Spotify even if you've not subscribed, but if you have subscribed, they're free, but it does get your, as I found out, your end of year listening stats are really weird. 393 00:31:59.460 --> 00:32:00.599 I only listened to a few. 394 00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:06.539 I listened to a few of them last year and it now thinks that Blake 7 is one of my favourite musical genres. 395 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:21.660 And so my Spotify playlists, if I ever listen to them, sometimes just have a random episode from a random track from the middle of one of these episodes, like slung in between my depressing singer-songwriters and Eurovision music, which is yeah. eclectic. 396 00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:28.980 This also has typical great big finish sound design as well. 397 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.740 So it all sounds huge and epic. 398 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:49.319 You've got great music where you're suddenly out seeing the liberator flying magnificently through space in your head and the big battles that they can do on audio that don't require reusing all the model work that they've built so far and things like that. 399 00:32:49.380 --> 00:32:50.160 So you could do this. 400 00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:52.680 So it all sounds sounds really, really good. 401 00:32:52.740 --> 00:32:57.599 Yeah, it's coming straight from that 1979 to 1980 crossover period. 402 00:32:57.660 --> 00:33:10.500 You would never know that when this was actually released, then a number one track was Will I Am with scream and shout featuring Britney Spears in the UK chart in 2013 because that's not the vibe of it at all. 403 00:33:11.099 --> 00:33:15.599 It's very much taking you back to the glory days. 404 00:33:15.660 --> 00:33:20.400 We are going to have to do all the other big finishes now, just so you can tell us what was in the jar. 405 00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:34.559 We were talking chatting just before we started recording about other ones that we have heard and just one that I would definitely recommend is there's one called three, which is Jacqueline Pierce and another actor playing other parts. 406 00:33:34.619 --> 00:33:38.819 So it's basically a serverland standalone in which she is interrogating a prisoner. 407 00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:43.740 And it's the darkest, most horrifying and horrible thing I've ever heard. 408 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:44.279 It's amazing. 409 00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:45.599 It takes her. 410 00:33:45.660 --> 00:33:46.980 It's still hurt. 411 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.240 It's not like, but it takes takes you with it, you know? 412 00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:55.200 It's not, um, uh, a complete reinvention of her or anything like that. 413 00:33:55.259 --> 00:33:59.279 It's the serverland as we know her, but and stuff that we know she's capable of. 414 00:33:59.339 --> 00:34:04.259 We hear her going into and she's still witty and charming all the way through it as well. 415 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:06.900 Uh, and that's, that's one that I'd recommend. 416 00:34:07.019 --> 00:34:11.940 It seriously shows off Jacqueline, what Jacqueline Pierce could do. 417 00:34:11.940 --> 00:34:20.099 And she has all aspects of the character and it is chilling and the ending is horrible. 418 00:34:20.099 --> 00:34:22.860 Really, really nasty. 419 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:28.559 You want to, you want to go and go straight to one with Michael Keating and in it afterwards, just to cheer yourself up. 420 00:34:28.619 --> 00:34:30.360 But in a good way. 421 00:34:30.420 --> 00:34:46.440 But yes, yeah, there's a lovely one that I can't think of the name of it now, but it was one a story that I'd always sort of hoped Blake 7 would tell, which they could do on audio, which is about a normal federation citizen being involved in Blake's adventures. 422 00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:49.619 And the normal citizen is played by Louise Jameson. 423 00:34:49.619 --> 00:35:04.800 And it's, um, she's just an everyday woman who gets dragged into, into one of the, one of their adventures and and caught up in it and you get to see her life and what her life in, in a domed city or or a colony is like. 424 00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:07.260 And that I remember that one being really, really good. 425 00:35:14.699 --> 00:35:26.280 Well, systems are malfunctioning on blocks 2 and 3, Villa is going off to check the live capsules and the life support is failing, so it's time for us to say goodbye. 426 00:35:26.340 --> 00:35:34.800 Thank you very much for giving us a listen as we've taken a little bit of a sideways dive into the world of big finish and maybe we'll come back to some more later. 427 00:35:34.860 --> 00:35:35.639 Who knows? 428 00:35:35.699 --> 00:35:50.579 But anyway, hopefully you'll be joining us very soon for the start of series C, and aftermath, and a new set of adventures for Avon and his crew on the Liberator, whoever they may be. 429 00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.280 Thank you very much for listening and goodbye. 430 00:35:53.340 --> 00:35:54.719 All right. 431 00:35:54.780 --> 00:35:55.440 Goodbye. 432 00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:55.920 Goodbye. 433 00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:04.920 Switching to manual. 434 00:36:04.980 --> 00:36:06.900 Maximum power on all drives. 435 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:11.940 Maximum power.