WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 21:59:26 1 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.360 Maximum power. 2 00:00:10.859 --> 00:00:13.919 Hello and welcome back to Maximum Power. 3 00:00:13.980 --> 00:00:14.820 I'm Colin. 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:15.960 I'm Brendan. 5 00:00:16.019 --> 00:00:17.160 I'm Mark. 6 00:00:17.219 --> 00:00:18.539 I'm Pete. 7 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:20.039 And I'm Cy. 8 00:00:20.219 --> 00:00:33.659 So, this week we are going to talk about episode three, Cygnus Alpha, but 1st of all, I want to chat to Mark, because Mark has a lifelong Doctor Who fan, someone that has seen a lot of Terry Nation before in the past. 9 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:43.200 We have put you in handcuffs and pulled you across the floor of some religious monastery on a distant planet and forced you to watch Blake 7 for the 1st time. 10 00:00:43.259 --> 00:00:44.579 How are you finding it? 11 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:45.960 Yeah, indeed. 12 00:00:46.020 --> 00:00:48.359 First time ever in my life, I watched Blake 7 last night. 13 00:00:48.420 --> 00:00:50.100 I watched the 1st 3 episodes. 14 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:56.280 Uh Yeah, I really liked it. 15 00:00:56.340 --> 00:00:57.659 Thank you for joining us. 16 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:01.200 No, I do like it. 17 00:01:01.259 --> 00:01:03.479 It surprised me in a few ways. 18 00:01:03.539 --> 00:01:13.019 It wasn't what I thought, but what I thought of it, I'd only picked up from Twitter and probably all copies of TV Zone that I was reading in the 90s. 19 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:22.379 I think I sort of thought it was a bit more like an American sci-fi show, you know, where and it's a massive generalisation, but generally American science fiction is people doing their jobs. 20 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:28.379 It's all ships and crews and rules and missions and stuff and British science fiction's a bit more sort of freewheeling. 21 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:31.079 I kind of thought it was like that, but obviously it isn't. 22 00:01:31.140 --> 00:01:33.599 And I like the ongoing story nature. 23 00:01:33.659 --> 00:01:41.099 It isn't just like, like stature next generation where it's, you know, it's all wrapped up neatly and there's no consequences from one week to another. 24 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.739 And how adult it is as well, to be honest. 25 00:01:43.799 --> 00:02:09.060 I sort of thought because probably the Doctor Who fans know that like it, they're slightly older than me, must have been watching it when they were kids, but it's it's not the sort of family viewing that Doctor Who is in a way, like the, you know, the idea of using kind of inception technology to put, make children believe they've been abused is, is, probably incredibly horrific, and then the threats to Jenna from the, the 2nd in command of the spaceship and that type of thing. 26 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.840 Yeah, it's I thought it was probably of a piece with Dr. in that way. 27 00:02:12.900 --> 00:02:14.219 Well look, don't worry. 28 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.460 It will get a bit more sort of meandering very soon. 29 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:25.439 It is really interesting hearing someone's fresh approach on the difference between Blake 7 on doing air quotes. 30 00:02:25.500 --> 00:02:35.699 Blake 7, the concept that everyone's heard of Blake 7, but what you actually get, and particularly what you actually get with these 1st few episodes, is not at all what Blake 7 has ended up being remembered as, is it? 31 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.759 Yeah, no, it's it really isn't. 32 00:02:38.819 --> 00:02:49.259 It starts in a much darker place than people necessarily assume about the series, but there is not to preempt it too much. 33 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:56.400 There is a lot of darkness throughout, mixed in with a lot of what people think it was. 34 00:02:56.759 --> 00:03:12.419 And I think possibly the lighter qualities have been emphasised in people's memories, possibly because when the dark stuff happens, like, you know, a big plot point, the 1st 2 episodes, being these implanted memories of abused children. 35 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:16.979 Um, people just kind of go, oh, no, no, I don't I don't choose to remember that. 36 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:23.759 I choose to remember Jenna wandering around in a wonderful petal flower, um, puffy collar shirt. 37 00:03:23.819 --> 00:03:26.580 I choose to remember that rather than the other thing. 38 00:03:27.300 --> 00:03:33.240 Yeah, she does find the TARDIS wardrobe very, uh, treasure room as well. 39 00:03:33.300 --> 00:03:37.979 Whatever aliens were flying that ship around, we can guarantee they were fabulous when it came to a tire. 40 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:39.659 That's clearly the... 41 00:03:39.659 --> 00:03:41.280 And humanoid. 42 00:03:41.340 --> 00:03:42.060 Yes. 43 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:47.159 Yes, I think it takes them a year to find the really amazing costumes. 44 00:03:47.219 --> 00:03:51.840 They're probably hidden somewhere at the back of the room and that they haven't quite got to yet. 45 00:03:51.900 --> 00:03:58.620 So they're, all the new costumes that they keep, keep finding are all a bit drab this year, but Jenna looks fabulous in pink. 46 00:03:58.680 --> 00:03:59.520 It's got to be said. 47 00:03:59.580 --> 00:04:00.300 Yeah. 48 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:12.180 Yeah, it takes until about halfway through series B. Blake's been eyeing off that big sort of gull wing sleeve blouse and he's like, can I, can I pull this off? 49 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:14.099 Can I pull this off and through it, still be threatening? 50 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:14.879 Can I? 51 00:04:14.939 --> 00:04:16.920 And then he finally goes, oh, well, I can wear it. 52 00:04:16.980 --> 00:04:17.639 That's some. 53 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:22.259 Okay, well, yeah, the night the time is running out on the 1970s. 54 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:23.879 I'd better get this over and done with quickly. 55 00:04:23.939 --> 00:04:26.879 If I'm ever gonna do it, 1979 is my last chance. 56 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.899 So this is almost a part three, 1st three. 57 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:47.699 It's halfway, I'd say, between the sort of standalone introductionary episodes, and we were talking last week about how this is not the universe that Terry Nation necessarily wants to keep telling us about. 58 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:54.420 He wants to sort of have the crew run off and do different daring kind of bank robbery type things every week. 59 00:04:54.540 --> 00:05:01.319 It's starting to form, I think, into what Blake 7 will become, which is sort of beamed down to planet of the week. 60 00:05:01.379 --> 00:05:13.319 It's sort of tying up, you know, Jack Rolf and his mermaidship boatyard, dropping off prisoners, they're gone, and getting the, getting the 1st semblance of the, of the crew together. 61 00:05:13.379 --> 00:05:20.160 What do we think about the crew of the unknown alien spacecraft figuring out how it works? 62 00:05:20.459 --> 00:05:23.040 Oh, God, I love those scenes. 63 00:05:23.100 --> 00:05:31.620 I love them sort of wandering around the flight deck and just admiring everything and finding the handguns, which are so unlike any other gun ever. 64 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:35.579 So they go through this whole scene of don't touch this gun. 65 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.680 Oh, touch this gun and then can you touch this gun? 66 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:40.319 And then you touch this gun, you know, you can't have more than one. 67 00:05:40.379 --> 00:05:42.660 And then Blake just hands Jenna 2 guns. 68 00:05:42.660 --> 00:05:45.959 Oh, yes, yes, I noticed that as well. 69 00:05:46.019 --> 00:05:47.339 That's my very 1st note. 70 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.699 It'll only give us one, one, one, one. 71 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:53.100 Yeah, I could have all the guns. 72 00:05:53.220 --> 00:06:01.980 That's felt like a very terry nation logic problem thing. that I'm a bit familiar with from Doctor Who over the years as well. 73 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:07.860 It was, it was, it's like, yeah, here we are, through characters are just going to talk this problem through, and there we are. 74 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:08.399 We solved it. 75 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:10.139 And you're like, and what did they actually do? 76 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:11.699 It doesn't matter. 77 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:12.899 They've sold it because they're clever. 78 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:27.300 Yeah, and we'll never mention it again because it will slow down each episode when we've got to get down to the planet and everyone's got to collect their guns and then you're only allowed one and then, yeah, we can't do that every week, but it feels a few minutes this week, doesn't it? 79 00:06:27.420 --> 00:06:39.480 Just makes the liberator. there's a real sort of feeling that they're trying to make it the most alien ship you can imagine and things are odd on there and it's not your usual kind of shit which I really like. 80 00:06:39.540 --> 00:06:47.100 Yeah, and it's a really nice, still, that they're still working with these characters quite clearly, and I don't know if Chris Boucher gets the credit for that. 81 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.040 I'm learning my way in Blake 7 behind the scenes law here. 82 00:06:50.100 --> 00:07:04.920 But, um, the, the, you've got Avon is sort of, is the more, the really intelligent one who comes out, we can do this and that, or as Blake is taking the overview, and Jenna is the, is the sort of the practical one who can actually sort things out and actually flies the thing. 83 00:07:04.980 --> 00:07:08.399 At that point, I was thinking, these 3 would make a great series. 84 00:07:08.459 --> 00:07:09.360 I'll just watch these three. 85 00:07:09.779 --> 00:07:24.660 I felt exactly the same way in the scene where they're exploring the teleport and sort of they're bouncing off each other and each of them is contributing ideas to what the function could be, how it could work, et cetera. 86 00:07:24.779 --> 00:07:32.579 There's also earlier on on the bridge where they're like, okay, Jenna, just press any button and, you know, then they get wind machined in the face. 87 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:34.740 We might all die. 88 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:37.139 And they never go as fast as that again. 89 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:38.819 No, well, would you? 90 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:45.779 Maybe after a particularly heavy night and you want to get rid of the eye bag, certainly, but aside from that. 91 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:57.180 Well, I didn't understand was at the end of the episode, they say maximum speed, and I'd expected them to then have that same thing and black out and have the... 92 00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:58.620 That's a good point. 93 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:03.899 I think it's possibly because like, you know, back when Star Trek was commissioned for a series. 94 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.300 Gene Roddenbury did sit down and write down what warp speed meant and how fast it was. 95 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.639 I don't think Terry Nation has done that. 96 00:08:11.699 --> 00:08:17.399 I love how I love their specific, how specific they are about the technicalities of speed at the start, Jen. 97 00:08:17.459 --> 00:08:20.220 It sounds like generally just guessing, which is standard. 98 00:08:20.220 --> 00:08:23.399 And then at the end they go, maximum. 99 00:08:23.459 --> 00:08:24.959 Okay, yeah, those are the two. 100 00:08:25.019 --> 00:08:26.519 But maybe Zen is taking these. 101 00:08:26.579 --> 00:08:35.460 Maybe Zen has taken the physiognomy of these humans on board when Jenna puts her hand in the thingy and has a little orgasmatron moment of bombing with them. 102 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.360 Frankly, if flying a spaceship is always feels like that. 103 00:08:39.419 --> 00:08:45.360 I'll have what she's having and I will pilot that spaceship. because she's really taken to a happy place by Zen when they bond. 104 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:55.259 And maybe that's when Zen learns, actually, you need to do a gravity setting when you're taking humans at squillion miles an hour to stop their faces going all blobby in a time-consuming effect sequence. 105 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:57.000 Well, you thought this through. 106 00:08:57.419 --> 00:08:59.039 Thanks. 107 00:08:59.100 --> 00:09:00.539 I can hear Ken and Matt. 108 00:09:01.620 --> 00:09:05.879 Yeah, and it gives selling the vet a chance to do all the acting there. 109 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:12.000 Yeah, I hope she got it out of the system. because if I remember rightly, she doesn't get all that much more. 110 00:09:12.059 --> 00:09:13.379 But no, but that's cynicism. 111 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:23.340 In the back of my mind from when I last watched 10 years ago, I have a horrible feeling she gets parked when Villa turns up and I love Villa, but Villa starts getting, Jenna gets loads of good jokes in this episode. 112 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:25.679 All of them, just one liners, just just banter. 113 00:09:25.740 --> 00:09:32.279 She's very teat. teasing Avon several times and it's really funny when they're at the when they're working the teleporter and trying to beam Blake back up again. 114 00:09:32.340 --> 00:09:34.860 And she's like, no, not that button, that button, have a nice little moment. 115 00:09:34.980 --> 00:09:39.480 Um, which I once Villa arrives and becomes the funny one. 116 00:09:39.539 --> 00:09:43.919 I wonder if the other characters start getting less chance to be funny, but we'll see. 117 00:09:43.980 --> 00:09:46.799 Yeah, especially when they're working out the teleport as well. 118 00:09:46.860 --> 00:09:55.259 It's good news that Avon has brought with him a bunch of coloured whole punch reinforcement rings just to label things. 119 00:09:55.320 --> 00:10:02.159 And has this weird way of sort of, you know, pressing his thumb backwards on a button for some bizarre reason. 120 00:10:02.220 --> 00:10:04.679 It's trying to make this scene as sort of intense as possible. 121 00:10:04.740 --> 00:10:05.879 Yeah. 122 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.100 How shall I approach the button? 123 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:09.360 I can just see him thinking. 124 00:10:09.419 --> 00:10:12.960 I've been listening to his autobiography on Big Finish and I can just imagine him doing that. 125 00:10:13.019 --> 00:10:15.419 I'm not going to press the button in a casual manner. 126 00:10:16.139 --> 00:10:22.080 I think for me that the mystery of the ship is the thing that is most interesting to me at the moment. 127 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:23.340 So where did it come from? 128 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:35.100 There's, You see, like, whether it's aliens or it's from the future or something like that, the way that Avon could immediately read that the life pods have been ejected, but they couldn't seem to suss out on these other controls. 129 00:10:35.220 --> 00:10:42.419 So I think, um, as a new viewer, find out, find out a bit more about the ship and who the original owner, so it's probably the most compelling part of it. 130 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:53.340 But I like the character stuff as well, like you say, is really great, the way nobody trusts each other yet because they've all just kind of been prisoners and just thrown together, all that sort of side of stuff's really good as well. 131 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.559 There's a moment where Avon pulls the gun. 132 00:10:55.620 --> 00:10:57.600 Yeah, that's a really good moment. 133 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:07.440 And there's the brilliant moment at the end, sort of 3 quarters of the way through the episode where Avon and Jenna are talking about we could just go. 134 00:11:07.500 --> 00:11:08.399 We've got money. 135 00:11:08.460 --> 00:11:09.120 We can have it. 136 00:11:09.179 --> 00:11:10.559 We can do this. 137 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:15.059 This will bring us power and anonymity, and we can disappear. 138 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:16.620 We don't need Blake. 139 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:17.519 Just leave him to it. 140 00:11:17.580 --> 00:11:34.500 And there's a really interesting byplay between the 2 characters, particularly Jenner's, we'll give him the time that he said, and if he hasn't come back by then, then we will go, and it's really interesting to see. no sort of loyalties formed almost between them all yet. 141 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:36.779 Yeah, and we've got to mention Star Trek, haven't we? 142 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:40.320 Because at this point, everyone in Britain has seen every episode of Star Trek multiple times. 143 00:11:40.379 --> 00:11:49.139 It's just been being shown on a loop pretty much since since the early since it was 1st shown when they disgustingly cut Doctor Who's episodes down from 40 something a week. 144 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:55.500 But, um, but, but, this must be such a, a contrast with that, you know, so space. 145 00:11:55.559 --> 00:12:09.419 Oh, yeah, space, that's that place. like you were saying before, space is that place where people go and they're all part of a team and they do their job together, like the Federation, but of course, having the Federation is the baddies. is a really nice twist or affederation. 146 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:10.500 So it's not the same Federation. 147 00:12:10.620 --> 00:12:12.899 Twisted the logo as well, haven't they, slightly the ones? 148 00:12:13.980 --> 00:12:19.500 Well, maybe that was profound rather than being just, oh, let's nick the Star Trek logo. 149 00:12:19.620 --> 00:12:21.419 It was, no, we're doing a twist. 150 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:22.379 See what we've done there. 151 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:47.639 So the London lands on Signus Alpha in some really good model shots, which will serate over time, but really, really good sequence there, and we drop, and they're dropping off the prisoners, and then we're introduced to what is pretty much a religious cult of the week, 25 minutes of, you know, Brian Brassard comes in after 25 minutes, and Pamela Salem, who is glorious as always. 152 00:12:47.700 --> 00:12:49.860 She doesn't have that much to do in this. 153 00:12:50.460 --> 00:12:54.240 No, it's, and then she, and she's amazing. 154 00:12:54.299 --> 00:13:02.820 She's so fantastic, and she just exudes everything that Kate O'Mara or Joan Collins has got, Pamela Silen has got it and the dose of Louise Jameson as well. 155 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:12.600 She's one of those people that baffles me that she isn't an absolute megastar, and I don't know if she just had had that extra proper front starring role in something like Tenko. 156 00:13:12.659 --> 00:13:14.100 Do you think she would have been? 157 00:13:14.100 --> 00:13:21.600 Because, yeah, in this, she's a small, it's a small role, but even then it's just, it's brilliant. the camera just loves her. 158 00:13:21.659 --> 00:13:24.960 Yeah, she's beautiful as well, isn't she? 159 00:13:25.019 --> 00:13:27.899 She looks gorgeous in those robes with her hair all flowing. 160 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:34.860 And the 1st shot of her, when they're doing the night filming in the quarry, and she's just there sort of standing all ethereal. 161 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.200 And if it, wow, who's this? 162 00:13:37.259 --> 00:13:38.580 She looks magnificent. 163 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:39.240 What's this about? 164 00:13:39.299 --> 00:13:41.820 Yeah, and the night and the night filming. 165 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.080 There lots of night filming, isn't there? 166 00:13:43.139 --> 00:13:49.200 And you can tell it's real, I think, unless I'm reasonably tricked, because I know they sometimes just bung a filter on, but you can usually tell when they've done that. 167 00:13:49.259 --> 00:13:50.519 But this is proper. 168 00:13:50.580 --> 00:13:54.059 And this is our 1st visit to a quarry, isn't it? 169 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:55.500 We should be celebrating that. 170 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:58.320 But, hey, quarries look great. 171 00:13:58.379 --> 00:14:00.720 And it turns out, we now discover from the movie of 2020. 172 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:03.539 Yes, space does look like quarries. 173 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:04.559 We have now confirmed that. 174 00:14:04.740 --> 00:14:12.960 We've spent 100000000s of dollars to go to various rocks and discover that they do look like quarries in the south of England. 175 00:14:13.019 --> 00:14:14.759 This is pitchiest. 176 00:14:14.820 --> 00:14:15.720 It was on Twitter, wasn't it? 177 00:14:15.779 --> 00:14:28.919 And it was an asteroid and it looked exactly like a quarry and it was even like a flat smooth bit that the Daleks could have moved around on. how incredibly perfect these Doctor Who locations have been over there yet. 178 00:14:28.980 --> 00:14:32.940 Well, the night filming in the quarry does look fantastic. 179 00:14:32.940 --> 00:14:39.419 And in fact, all the filming, the exterior filming we've had so far has been at night. 180 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:49.559 And I do have to wonder if that was an effort to make a statement about this series because, you know, Doctor Who rarely gets to film at night. 181 00:14:49.620 --> 00:14:59.039 And so night filming immediately adds this, I think, air of prestige, as well as literally coding the show as being dark. 182 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:04.259 And for each of these 1st 3 episodes, you have a very distinct setting. 183 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:07.860 So in the 1st episode, you are in the Futuristic City Dome. 184 00:15:07.980 --> 00:15:10.980 In the 2nd episode, you are in a claustrophobic spaceship. 185 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:18.419 And for the 3rd episode, you are in the hero spaceship and this desolate planet with its Gothic castle. 186 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:23.039 And it's sort of what Russell T. Davies will eventually do when he brings back Doctor Who. 187 00:15:23.100 --> 00:15:27.299 We have Terry Nation saying, okay, you're going to have several kinds of stories. 188 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:28.860 You're going to have stories on spaceships. 189 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:44.759 You're going to have stories in these idyllic space cities that are actually corrupt, and you are going to have weird planets where society, despite the fact that we are in a science fiction thing, the society has degraded. 190 00:15:44.820 --> 00:15:53.460 And something I found very interesting about this is, you know, publicity around the show say that we are in the 3rd century of the 2nd calendar. 191 00:15:53.519 --> 00:16:03.299 But Brian Blessed's character, Vargas, says that he and his family, his forebears, have been ruling over this colony for 500 years. 192 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:06.720 This colony likely predates the federation. 193 00:16:06.779 --> 00:16:16.679 I always took it to mean that the reason we're in the 2nd calendar is that the party came to power and told you not to believe the evidence of your own eyes and changed the calendar. 194 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:21.059 The other interesting thing is I've been thinking, you know, what does the word federation mean? 195 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:28.980 And it means a collection of states, in this case, a collection of worlds with a central government, but who manage their own internal affairs. 196 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:34.379 And Vargas totally admits that, yeah, this is a raw. 197 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:47.519 I know it's a raw, but I get special treatment from the federation, but now I can go out into space and make everyone think what I want to think, and it opens up that, when not everywhere we visit is not just going to be a federation outpost. 198 00:16:47.580 --> 00:16:53.519 You going to be visiting places that have their own way of doing things and because they need to make a distinction. 199 00:16:53.580 --> 00:16:56.159 These own way of doing things are gonna be a bit nuts. 200 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:09.960 It's very interesting sort of to have religion in Blake 7, particularly because I think next year in pressure point, there's quite a lot about religion being banned and churches being destroyed and things like that. 201 00:17:10.019 --> 00:17:13.500 So to have a religion on a primitive planet. 202 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:19.740 I think is, again, I think Terry Nation will come back to this later in the season and several times afterwards. 203 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:24.539 It's almost like religion is seen as a way of keeping together a primitive population. 204 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:28.500 But when you've got the sophisticated dome dwellers. 205 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:29.160 They don't need it. 206 00:17:29.220 --> 00:17:30.960 The Federation will keep them together. 207 00:17:31.019 --> 00:17:38.400 I think it's pretty successful as a, you know, it is a very Star Trek-y type episode where they sort of beam down. 208 00:17:38.460 --> 00:17:58.440 They find some, it's not, I say, successful as who watches the watchers in next generation or or some of the other ones, but it's, for Blake 7, it's, it's, it's about as Star Trek as they get, I think, with sort of, you know, anti-religion type stuff, the, the, they're not really ill, but uh, they've got to keep taking this pill. 209 00:17:58.500 --> 00:18:01.259 Which, um, literally the opiate of the masses. 210 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:01.559 Yeah. 211 00:18:01.619 --> 00:18:02.460 Yeah exactly. 212 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:04.619 Alka salsa tablets, yeah. 213 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:11.099 There's a potential for confusion at the start when Pamela Salem says, I am the servant of your God. 214 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:11.640 Neil. 215 00:18:11.700 --> 00:18:12.900 Neil. 216 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.359 I didn't think that was gone. 217 00:18:15.420 --> 00:18:20.640 We finally know God's name, but then Gan kneels and gets hypno kiss and we understand what that means. 218 00:18:20.700 --> 00:18:22.500 Or was it... 219 00:18:22.500 --> 00:18:23.339 Don't tell Sue Perryman. 220 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:30.539 Did she magically hypnotise him with a kiss or did she just kiss him and he fell under her spell literally? 221 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:32.759 I wasn't quite sure whether that was a metaphorical or real. 222 00:18:32.819 --> 00:18:43.500 I took when they had a connection because when they brought Gan in to be sacrificed, she had a reaction and then she sort of cries out to warn him as well, doesn't she? 223 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:46.859 So I took it that they'd had a little... 224 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:47.460 Yeah, of course, yeah. 225 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.440 That was that was my reading a bit. 226 00:18:49.500 --> 00:18:51.539 But the thing about the using the drug as well. 227 00:18:51.599 --> 00:19:00.599 That's on earth that they're using this, they said they're using the food and the drink to control people and then on the prison ship as well, is it the pumpkin suppressants into the air? 228 00:19:00.660 --> 00:19:03.119 So it's like a through line of control. 229 00:19:03.180 --> 00:19:04.680 And it was a surprise. 230 00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:07.799 I remember the 1st time I saw this episode when it cuts back to the London again. 231 00:19:07.859 --> 00:19:11.099 I thought, oh, I assumed, right, they've got the spaceship. 232 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:12.839 They going to be often have their new adventures. 233 00:19:12.900 --> 00:19:22.859 And it's a surprise in episode 3 to actually turn out to be a continuation of episode 2 rather than a new story. that sets up, yeah, this is this isn't going to be just like Doctor and Star Trek. 234 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.380 This is going to be more like survivors, isn't it? 235 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:29.460 which was just a few years before, wasn't it, of um, an ongoing thing. 236 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:30.720 It's odd. 237 00:19:30.779 --> 00:19:41.339 They kind of, um, they kind of sacrifice a bit of episode time for 2 recaps, which, uh, again, you know, Captain, I'm going to call him Jack Rolf from Howards Way, because I can't remember. 238 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:50.579 Well, he has his report, which he seems to sign off by just sticking his hand on a bunch of transistors weirdly, and then, uh, but that's played. 239 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:52.920 And then there's a black and white recap. 240 00:19:52.980 --> 00:19:57.299 So it's like previously on Blake 7, which never really happens. 241 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:01.500 It's, it's, you know, well, just, I don't think it happens again, but, um... 242 00:20:01.500 --> 00:20:06.539 I wonder if that's the director Villorimer thinking, because this Villorimer goes on to is a stalp. 243 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:08.279 Yeah, and he's a stalwart, isn't he? 244 00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:09.900 And I looked on his IMDb is amazing. 245 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:11.819 He goes back, he's been directing since the 50s. 246 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:12.539 He's done it. 247 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:24.420 In fact, basically he's done everything except Doctor Who, but particularly anything that's got a policeman in it, which I guess is where we end up having Brian Blessed, because anything that had a policeman in it, had Brian Blessed as that policeman before he became Prince Boltan. 248 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:28.500 And this is Brian Blessed's show reel for Prince Voltan, isn't it? 249 00:20:28.619 --> 00:20:33.720 Because he was doing, I, Claudius, a few weeks earlier, being all Shakespearean. 250 00:20:33.779 --> 00:20:36.000 And in this, he's going a little bit beyond that. 251 00:20:36.420 --> 00:20:43.140 Well, he's doing his, he's doing his classic kind of high voice and then low voice shouting in the same sentence. 252 00:20:43.380 --> 00:20:46.799 I do I do like the high voice scenes though. 253 00:20:46.859 --> 00:20:48.539 It's just, how did you come here? 254 00:20:50.099 --> 00:20:55.859 He's got a real sense of menace and danger to him all the way brew. 255 00:20:55.920 --> 00:21:01.319 He's he's a big, powerful figure, and you can see why he's the figurehead on this planet. 256 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:05.640 He's, yeah, he's crafted that that figurehead role really well. 257 00:21:05.700 --> 00:21:08.160 I do I do have a note here. 258 00:21:08.220 --> 00:21:10.859 Are Brian Blessed shoes deliberate? 259 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:12.420 because we get it. 260 00:21:13.259 --> 00:21:14.579 We get a close couple of shots. 261 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:33.000 We get a couple of close-ups, but he's also moving the robe as if he's trying to cover them, and I'm like, okay, either he's wearing these shoes and the robe isn't quite long enough to cover them, or this is meant to indicate that, yeah, he is he is corrupt, and he is aware that the robes are nonsense and what have you. 262 00:21:33.059 --> 00:21:35.579 And I don't really know which one of these. 263 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:42.839 I'd like to think it's the latter that knowing how chaotic sort of Doctor Who and Blake 7 production is, it could easily be the former. 264 00:21:42.900 --> 00:21:45.420 That's a really good I have fallen archers. 265 00:21:45.900 --> 00:21:52.559 They are the sacred Adidas trainers that have been handed down from generation to generation and are very comfortable on set. 266 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.759 But you can just, you can just imagine cardio conversation. 267 00:21:56.819 --> 00:21:58.200 Oh, my robes will cover my trainers. 268 00:21:58.259 --> 00:21:58.799 I'll wear these. 269 00:21:58.859 --> 00:21:59.640 I love you uncomfortable. 270 00:21:59.700 --> 00:22:07.380 It's interesting you should say that because he has one line in it that I think you can take 2 ways and that's human souls are the only currency. 271 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:08.940 Our god is bankrupt without them. 272 00:22:09.059 --> 00:22:22.740 And and is he saying, well, I've got these human souls and um, that this is the currency for in sort of enslaving these people, or is he saying, um, no, these souls are real and, you know, God needs them? 273 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:24.960 Well, the souls of each trainers. 274 00:22:25.019 --> 00:22:27.000 Now you've mentioned the trainers. 275 00:22:27.059 --> 00:22:28.559 I think I know what tied them on. 276 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:30.059 Yeah. 277 00:22:30.059 --> 00:22:31.559 Yeah, that's what it is. 278 00:22:31.619 --> 00:22:34.259 Yeah, does he really think he's a god? 279 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:44.460 I don't, I think he thinks, I think he thinks he knows how much power he has, but he doesn't, he knows he can't fly, for example, you know, you know what I mean? 280 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:53.579 So, so, so, so I think, I think it's the, it's that was supposed to be shocked by the commodification of the soul in this planet in the same way that, you know, it's just showing us. 281 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:59.039 Basically, is this series just going to, every week show us how there are a 1000000 different ways of running society and they're all terrible? 282 00:22:59.099 --> 00:23:04.200 Because, I mean, we're only 3 episodes in, but that seems to be the general bedding of it. 283 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:09.779 So we also get to meet another new character this week, and that is Zen. 284 00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:11.099 What do people think about Zen? 285 00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:12.900 Oh, I love Zen. 286 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:14.339 I love his calm voice. 287 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.480 Peter Tottenham does such a brilliant job of making him sound human. 288 00:23:18.539 --> 00:23:26.640 He's just so calm and lovely and he's confirmed and he's just booming away in the in the corner of the studio. 289 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:29.579 Although it's probably quite dated. 290 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:39.839 I really love the great big hexagonal sort of frontage of him and his lights flickering all the time and the big central one that just matches his voice. 291 00:23:39.900 --> 00:23:51.299 I just think that's a beautiful piece of design and I love, I love it. so characterful, the way that he says something like, I perceive that you require a visual interface and then this beautiful thing appears. 292 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:54.119 It's like, oh, I get I know what impresses the likes of you. 293 00:23:54.180 --> 00:23:55.440 It's basically what he's saying. 294 00:23:55.500 --> 00:23:57.599 Wisdom must be gathered. 295 00:23:57.660 --> 00:23:59.700 It cannot be given, he says. 296 00:23:59.700 --> 00:24:16.500 So, I, I, and again, I think that, Terry Nation is doing quite a good job of giving him a character, certainly, certainly until Aurak turns up the all-knowing computer, but he's not, you always get a feeling, he's not necessarily on the side of the people he's with. 297 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:17.819 He's not giving them everything. 298 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:22.259 I'm always referring to him as a he because he is a proper character, I think. 299 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:49.140 What is so interesting is that around this time, of course, computers and robots were very much in the Zeitgeist to science fiction and moving forward from what they were in like the 50s and 60s, like very, very often they were just kind of either comic relief or villains and sort of with canine, with R2D2 and C3PO and Zen and Aurak, they start becoming characters in their own right. 300 00:24:49.500 --> 00:25:01.500 And I think that, um, funnily enough, just in the last week or so, as we record, uh, something called escapade has been uploaded to YouTube. 301 00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:10.079 And for listeners who don't know, this was an attempt by Brian Clemens to adapt the new Avengers for the American market. 302 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:14.640 Basically just with a new version of Gambit and Purdy. 303 00:25:14.700 --> 00:25:21.539 And their missions run by a funny computer with whirring tape banks. 304 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:25.920 Who's spanking a high pitched English butler voice and didn't understand. 305 00:25:25.980 --> 00:25:29.160 Are you the man or are you the girl is one of the lines in the thing? 306 00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:33.839 And that was made in 1978. 307 00:25:34.019 --> 00:25:38.579 So at the same time, you've got Terry Nation going, what would an alien computer be like? 308 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:46.920 It would have thought processes that weren't necessarily, as you say, Simon, necessarily on the side of the people it is serving. 309 00:25:46.980 --> 00:25:52.500 And it's like, I will serve you and I will help you, but I will not allow you to gain knowledge you're not ready for. 310 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.559 And it's almost like Zen is testing them. 311 00:25:55.619 --> 00:26:03.900 Yeah, I think the closest we've come to a character like this before is probably Tim in the tomorrow people for anyone who's seen that. 312 00:26:04.019 --> 00:26:13.079 So he's a very plummy English actor voicing a computer who's very condescending towards the young children that he's got in his charge. 313 00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:21.059 So, then slightly different, I think, but yeah, there's there's a precedent, yeah, Wonder Woman had a supercomputer in her last series as well, didn't she? 314 00:26:21.180 --> 00:26:21.660 Iraq. 315 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.519 Which is the same. 316 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:24.420 Oh, cute. 317 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:25.079 Oh my god. 318 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:27.480 Yeah. 319 00:26:27.539 --> 00:26:31.680 But yeah, yeah, legit IRAC. 320 00:26:31.740 --> 00:26:33.000 Yeah, but. 321 00:26:33.059 --> 00:26:33.900 Nobody tell Reagan. 322 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:45.599 But it's one of those generic, you must go and rescue the delegates type things, not actually being personable, like Zen and Noraka. 323 00:26:45.660 --> 00:26:51.960 We've got more potential characters who could be part of the 7 down on the planet. 324 00:26:52.019 --> 00:27:04.380 And I'm very interested to hear from Mark about this because as jaded Blake 7 fans who have seen these episodes, lots of times, we know who are going to make up the actual 7 of Blake 7. 325 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.180 How did you feel about who are they? 326 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:11.400 Arco and Salmon, who are the 2 potential people who might be joining the crew. 327 00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:17.220 I was trying to work out who, uh, I was sort of counting them up who the who the other 7 would be. 328 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.460 So there's already Avon and Jenner on the ship. 329 00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:32.460 So I was thinking, yeah, there isn't, there isn't probably quite 5 unless they're going to take like Pamela Salem or something like that because I thought Gan was maybe going to turn her was maybe going to turn her, but she seemed sympathetic towards him. 330 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:47.460 But yeah, Arco in particular, because Villa was kind of running around after him and and his name seemed to be used a lot in the way that you would with the main character to reinforce the, you know, with the audience, that character's name. 331 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.720 So, yeah, I totally thought that him in particular was going to be a main character. 332 00:27:51.779 --> 00:27:54.059 And it's a great, it's a good name. 333 00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:58.980 It's a good space Blake 7 space name as well, to be to be blown on someone who's not going to survive. 334 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.079 You think, okay, they're definitely trying to trick us with that. 335 00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:02.039 Yeah, Arco. 336 00:28:02.099 --> 00:28:06.900 But shockingly, having seen his other work in, um, in, in the Doctor Who mark of the Rani. 337 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:12.119 I discover he's not really a Geordie from the northeast of England and his accent and that had completely convinced me. 338 00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:17.579 If you want to see a true linguistic variation of an actor's repertoire. 339 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:18.960 I do go and watch that, Doctor Who decide. 340 00:28:19.019 --> 00:28:22.859 I'm quite impressed sort of thinking about the scenes on the planet. 341 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:34.200 It's very interesting to see how Gan takes charge of everything down there, which is quite unexpected, considering how the character ends up, sorry, spoilers mark. 342 00:28:34.259 --> 00:28:42.660 But he is, he's completely in control of what's going on amongst all the prisoners and they seem to be defaulting to him as their de facto leader. 343 00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:44.339 What do we think about that? 344 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:59.519 I found that really interesting because I think David Jackson plays it incredibly well. sort of as soon as they're let out of the holding area, Villa is, of course, being scared and Arco's arguing with him and Gan just goes, okay, we're going this way now. 345 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.880 And he doesn't, he doesn't sort of wait for anyone. 346 00:29:02.940 --> 00:29:05.700 He's just like, um, and yeah, I'm gonna go do this thing. 347 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:11.279 He's no nonsense, and I think that gets watered down as simple. 348 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:20.940 By, by some perceptions, but yeah, he finds a dead body and he's sort of kneeling by it, paying his respects when everyone finds him. 349 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:30.359 I think where the disconnect kind of comes from is, you know, he's this huge man. 350 00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:33.779 But they give him the shirt that make his arms look tiny. 351 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:54.359 Like his his arms kind of disappear and and also David Jackson as an actor is so well spoken. that you, you know, you may be expect this rough kind of voice to come out of Gan, but instead, you know, it's like, um, it's like, Blake, no, we can't leave this planet. 352 00:29:54.420 --> 00:29:54.900 We'll die. 353 00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:55.799 There's a drug. 354 00:29:55.859 --> 00:29:57.180 It can take care of us. 355 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:01.259 And he's got a beautiful voice. that you just don't expect to come from him. 356 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.359 No, surrounded by all these. 357 00:30:03.420 --> 00:30:05.339 I mean, it is space rider anyway. 358 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:16.380 And for then to take the character who is meant to be the, the, and Rada could be a Blake 7 thing. take to take the one who's supposed to, who we we find out more later, but we can clearly say he's the heavy. 359 00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:21.180 He's the strong man and making him the poshest, most gentlemanly of the lot of them. 360 00:30:21.180 --> 00:30:29.880 When he doesn't have all, and in this episode, he's a bit more at the forefront. we get to know him a little bit, we still don't know as much about his backstory as we do even do the others. 361 00:30:29.940 --> 00:30:34.079 I think he makes less of an impact as time goes on. 362 00:30:34.140 --> 00:30:39.599 For me, he just becomes like a pound sharp Hodor as time goes on. 363 00:30:39.660 --> 00:30:42.059 It's just like, I don't know what to do with him. 364 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:51.539 He's just sort of there and is sort of, you know, vaguely beating people up and stuff and then, yeah, it just doesn't work for me after the 1st few episodes. 365 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.240 I think they, they, they run out of things to do with him. 366 00:30:54.299 --> 00:31:03.779 Interestingly, having finished intergalactic last week, which everyone is talking about as being the, the, you know, the Blake 7-ish thing. 367 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:11.880 There is a character with spoiler alert, a chip in the back of their head, who needs that chip in there, otherwise they're, they're gonna go off and do bad things. 368 00:31:11.940 --> 00:31:13.740 That's got to end up in court. 369 00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:14.339 That thing. 370 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.319 And unless something has actually happened. 371 00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:19.200 There's no way Terry Nations are staying together like that. 372 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.579 That just stick over. 373 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.440 Sure, if the Orville can get away with doing what it's doing. 374 00:31:27.660 --> 00:31:30.180 Oh, preferred cuddles, the monkey. 375 00:31:31.380 --> 00:31:36.900 So how do we feel the relationship between Blake and Avon is shaping up? 376 00:31:37.019 --> 00:31:38.940 It seems to be forming a bit more. 377 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.559 There's a great bit where they're looking at the gums, going back to that scene. 378 00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:48.059 And, you know, and yeah, Avon is theorising and saying, well, it could be this and maybe they're that. 379 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:48.660 Don't touch it. 380 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:55.559 You can see that I think termination is definitely deliberately setting them up to be conflict over who's the alpha dog and who's going to be calling the shots. 381 00:31:55.619 --> 00:31:59.039 And I love the line where Blake says, are we sure it's a gun? 382 00:31:59.099 --> 00:32:07.019 And Avon says, well, it's a bit elaborate for a toothpick, to which Blake replies, depends how elaborate their teeth were, which is just a really nice bit of character. 383 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.920 Those, you could put those lines in other characters, but putting it on them. 384 00:32:10.980 --> 00:32:12.720 Yeah, it keeps the viewers on their toes as well. 385 00:32:12.779 --> 00:32:15.660 Apart from the, we know the show is called Blake 7. 386 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.940 If it wasn't, if it was just called the Liberators or something. 387 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.720 We might be thinking, oh, wait, that's actually, that's a good name for a show. 388 00:32:21.779 --> 00:32:24.539 But um, I wonder if I'd get sued. 389 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:31.680 But they, yeah, they're setting up a dynamic that can run for, for, a good seasonal and more. 390 00:32:31.740 --> 00:32:38.759 Yeah, there's a very interesting conversation between Avon and Jenna, again, about Could you kill someone? 391 00:32:38.819 --> 00:32:43.680 And I've been, there's sort of that seeding of, could it be Blake, you're thinking of killing? 392 00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:44.880 Could it could you do this? 393 00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:51.660 And what I'm, what I find very interesting is that it's implied that neither of them have killed anyone before. 394 00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:58.380 Whereas in a few episodes of time, they'll be gunning people, guards down with, with, with abandon all the way through. 395 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:09.420 But it's, yeah, it's very interesting to see how sort of, again, there's a nice character dynamic between those 2 and you've been, yeah, the 3rd person in this conversation is missing here. 396 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:16.500 I really like the way that ended, where Jenna basically implies to Avon. 397 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.000 If you kill Blake, I'm going to kill you. 398 00:33:18.059 --> 00:33:19.019 I read it as that. 399 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.539 Yeah, with a smile and a just so you know. 400 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:23.460 JSYK. 401 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:31.619 Yeah, and even though a few minutes ago, it was like, oh, I suppose if we uh, we don't see him in 6 minutes, we can fuck off. 402 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:33.900 Anyway, you know? 403 00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:38.519 So can anyone explain to me where Brian Blessed teleports up to? 404 00:33:38.579 --> 00:33:42.420 Is it the teleport room behind the cameras or something? 405 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:48.119 There seems to be another teleport bay next to the teleport bay that we never see again. 406 00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:52.559 I think the implication is because you've got so many teleport bracelets. 407 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:58.440 And really, with the teleport chamber, because it's a set, it's a 3 it's a 3 site. 408 00:33:58.500 --> 00:34:00.720 Well, not even a 3 side. a two-sided thing. a corner. 409 00:34:00.779 --> 00:34:05.640 And so you could imagine that it is, in fact, a horseshoe. 410 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.119 And they mainly use the bit that's just opposite the console. 411 00:34:09.179 --> 00:34:18.239 But it's yeah, it's implicit that you could beam up 20 people at a time because there's this big, this big tray full of bracelets. 412 00:34:18.300 --> 00:34:21.480 So if you imagine that he's at the other end of the horseshoe. 413 00:34:21.539 --> 00:34:29.280 If you imagine he's at the other end of the horseshoe for no adequate explored reason. just about works. sneaked into the back door. 414 00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:31.139 Yeah. 415 00:34:31.260 --> 00:34:35.519 And we never see so many teleport bracelets again this year. 416 00:34:35.579 --> 00:34:37.139 I love the way they pronounce it. 417 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:38.039 They're all so posh. 418 00:34:38.099 --> 00:34:43.440 I think it's Blake himself who starts from calling it the teleport. 419 00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:47.400 And that becomes, they always say it as if it's 2 words. 420 00:34:47.460 --> 00:34:48.780 I'm going to the teleport. 421 00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:51.239 But when we don't say beam down, do we? 422 00:34:51.300 --> 00:34:52.019 Well, beam me up. 423 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.920 That's prohibited Of course not, because that would get the other law is involved. 424 00:34:55.980 --> 00:35:01.139 But it's when he gets the, the, I mean, it's the poshless level does increase massively. 425 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.679 But it's like when you get, he's going to the teleport braces, going, hello? 426 00:35:04.739 --> 00:35:06.780 Hello, hello. 427 00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:10.139 Another thing. 428 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:12.239 Going back to the bit of the could you kill someone bit? 429 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:22.320 Did you notice, and I don't know if I've got this right, but in the big fight at the end, is Villa, who, rather brutally, stabs someone in the back in order to save Blake's life. 430 00:35:22.380 --> 00:35:26.519 And is that the 1st killing that any of them have done on screen, I think? 431 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:27.300 I can't remember. 432 00:35:27.420 --> 00:35:35.940 There may have been another one earlier in the fight, you're not quite sure, because they're being bundled here there and everywhere, because that's just after the conversation up on the ship about with those 2 saying, you know, could you have you ever killed anyone? 433 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:42.480 And then, and then we cut a couple of scenes later. actually the class clown who ends up being the 1st one of them to brutally kill someone. 434 00:35:42.539 --> 00:35:44.460 And there's an odd edit I noticed. 435 00:35:44.460 --> 00:35:46.619 And I noticed this because I'm doing a little thing. 436 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.860 I've mentioned on the previous episode that we should have a poll for shriek of the week. 437 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.079 And that is now becoming a real thing. 438 00:35:52.139 --> 00:35:54.900 I've done a little montage of the best treats from this episode. 439 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.639 I'll go back and do the previous ones too. 440 00:35:56.699 --> 00:35:59.099 And he gives a really good shriek, this guy who gets stabbed. 441 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.320 But what's interesting is there's a few frames missing. 442 00:36:01.380 --> 00:36:16.860 You see a close-up of this guy's face as he's like sort of trying to strangle Blake, and then you see that something's happening behind him, and then suddenly it cuts, and he's moved back, and Villa has stabbed him in the back. who cut the villa holding the knife, even though the actual stabbing wasn't in frame. 443 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:22.260 The moment that was a close-up of this man's face as he was being stabbed in the back out of camera is cut. 444 00:36:22.380 --> 00:36:26.099 So it just jumps from him a moment before he's been stabbed in the back to a moment after. 445 00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:28.800 And that could just be a glitch in the master tapes. 446 00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:31.500 But I just wonder if there was that they thought, no, that's going too far. 447 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.380 We can't have his face on screen at the moment he gets stabbed in the back. 448 00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:39.659 We'll just have to clip a few frames because it's a very specific few frames to miss. 449 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:41.579 They're finding their way here, aren't they? 450 00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:48.119 They've not got the, the time slot's not that different to Doctor Who, but they know they can do stuff that Doctor Who can't do, even in this period. 451 00:36:48.179 --> 00:36:52.619 But it's the stuff that, of course, Doctor Who's been told to rein in a couple of years earlier, isn't it? 452 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.500 So they're, yeah, they're like, no, we can, we can, can we do stabbings? 453 00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:56.400 Yeah we can do a stabbing. 454 00:36:56.460 --> 00:36:59.579 Do you think I thought it was interesting about, say the conversation about, could you kill somebody? 455 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:03.179 Is Jenna is the one that points out that room full of treasure? 456 00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:04.199 to Avon? 457 00:37:04.260 --> 00:37:14.400 And she must know, you know, she kind of has an idea, think about his nature. that that will tempt him to just say, well, look, let's leave Blake behind, you know, because she does it while Blake's on the planet and stuff. 458 00:37:14.460 --> 00:37:28.920 And she, again, you're not quite sure about her, I think, what her motives are, because she's very sympathetic to Blake when in the 1st episode, just at the end before the ship takes off saying, oh, it's still time for you, be a lawyer basically to come through for you. 459 00:37:28.980 --> 00:37:35.880 But yeah, I felt like that was quite a, quite a shady sort of move was, uh, was different aiming off to the, to the treasurer at that point. 460 00:37:35.940 --> 00:37:38.159 Almost to put that temptation in his way. 461 00:37:38.219 --> 00:37:42.539 Yeah, and sometimes in ensemble things where there's a lead character. 462 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.619 They forget to give all the other characters interactions with each other. 463 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:57.539 And they all, you end up with a small group of people who all have a one-to-one relationship with the central character, Chris Tribnall, and don't have necessarily the bonding moments with each other that they would benefit from. 464 00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:58.679 It can get overlooked. 465 00:37:58.739 --> 00:38:00.840 And so yeah, that's a good building ground, isn't it? 466 00:38:00.900 --> 00:38:03.420 That it is as much about the 7 as it is about Blake. 467 00:38:03.539 --> 00:38:13.260 And I think that's something that does continue, at least through this season. everyone has an interaction with Avon, particularly that sort of defines their character. 468 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:17.699 So Villa and Avon particularly form a double act, don't they? 469 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.960 And Avon is always very dismissive of Gan. 470 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:32.639 Avon and Cali have a very interesting relationship that's explored through the next, however many years they are together, and so on and so forth. 471 00:38:32.699 --> 00:38:48.539 I don't know whether it's, It's deliberate, but it really feels like it's everyone's relationship with Avon that is their pivotal relationship, even if it's not explicitly stated, but that's how you get to know the characters through their interactions with Paul Darrow. 472 00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:55.500 The other sort of pivotal character moment I see in this episode, aside from the, you know, would you kill anyone scene? 473 00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:06.840 Um, it's when Blake is chucked into the cell with the rest of the prisoners and they all shy away from him and they're all saying, you know, if you don't give Brian Bless of what he wants, he's going to kill us. 474 00:39:06.900 --> 00:39:08.940 And Blake just rounds on them. 475 00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:22.920 And, you know, he, he wasn't that aggressive towards Brian Blessard's character, maybe, because he had a gun on him, but just the way Blake, and we haven't, we've seen Blake be angry in the previous episode. 476 00:39:22.980 --> 00:39:24.659 Like we've seen him be angry at Raker. 477 00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:34.920 We seen him be angry about what happened to him, but for him to turn to his fellow prisoners and be this angry and lambast them for their cowardice and what have you. 478 00:39:34.980 --> 00:39:40.679 It's like, oh, okay, this character has layers because Avon's been talking about, you know, Blake's a crusader. 479 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.659 He's not a survivor, I suppose, in a way. 480 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.579 Whereas that scene, it's like, no, no, no. 481 00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:55.559 Blake is out to protect himself, but he wants to protect other people at the same time, but if you're gonna get in his way, it doesn't matter if you're friend or foe, he's going to go through you. 482 00:39:55.619 --> 00:40:02.940 And the thing that then brings that tension down because you think, uh, Blake, there's about 10 of them. 483 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:07.199 And um, they can just beat you up. 484 00:40:07.260 --> 00:40:13.019 The thing that brings it back down is not even 2 seconds after he finishes talking, Gan just goes, yeah, right. 485 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.559 Yeah, Blake has got that gift of the, he's got the gift of the gab and can win them over. yeah. 486 00:40:16.619 --> 00:40:17.340 Yeah. 487 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:30.780 And I think also it's a conscious thing with Gan's character as well that Gan just, you know, Gan just kind of needs the facts laid out before him and he'll go, okay, yeah, I accept that. 488 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:32.460 But he's but he's not stupid. 489 00:40:32.579 --> 00:40:40.199 He listens and makes the decision quickly and sticks to that decision, whereas Villa is looking for the angles to play. 490 00:40:40.260 --> 00:40:50.340 On the topic of Arco, who we were talking about earlier, in the original treatment, Arco was the master thief, and Villa was his cowardly apprentice. 491 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:56.820 So there was going to be this dynamic between the 2 of them, and we'll see as the season goes on who that dynamic gets transferred to. 492 00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:58.380 That's very interesting. 493 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:04.260 I think a Gareth Thomas is very intense all the time, which is always fascinating. 494 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:05.519 He's doing all the acting. 495 00:41:05.579 --> 00:41:07.980 We've noticed this already in the past 2 episodes. 496 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.559 He's seizing every chance he gets to show. 497 00:41:10.619 --> 00:41:12.599 He's a fantastic actor. 498 00:41:12.659 --> 00:41:14.760 And there's lots in this character to do. 499 00:41:14.820 --> 00:41:36.300 But also, I think there's a feeling from Blake that he's come all this way to rescue all these guys, and they're so ungrateful that they don't want to take the chance to get away from this awful desperate hole in space, this rocky outcrop with nothing going for it, and they'd still take the chance to stay there rather than take a chance with Blake. 500 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.420 I think that's a real, again, that's a really fascinating choice. 501 00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:40.380 Those prisoners have made. 502 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:47.880 Was the sort of prison yard dynamic a bit there as well, isn't there, that he has to win them over with a bit of aggression and forcefulness. 503 00:41:47.940 --> 00:41:52.079 In terms of what you're saying about Gan being the leader as well, having a bit of a leadership role. 504 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.559 He's physically the biggest, strongest character there. 505 00:41:55.619 --> 00:42:01.199 So the dynamic sort of changes once they're on the ship and it's no longer in that sort of prison environment. 506 00:42:01.260 --> 00:42:03.539 Yeah, it's working out who's top dog, isn't it, really? 507 00:42:04.980 --> 00:42:11.039 So one of the things that's introduced in this episode, as we've mentioned, is the teleport. 508 00:42:11.099 --> 00:42:28.559 What do we think of the effect of the teleport and the sound effect and, of course, Dudley Simpson's brilliant choice of making the wonderful teleport music that accompanies them every minute while they've got to do the matting shot and nothing is actually happening. 509 00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:34.619 So he's got to cover this and he just goes for it and it gets better and better as the sim. 510 00:42:34.619 --> 00:42:35.820 It's the whole thing about it. 511 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:41.400 It's like music from Heidi High when Ted pulls off the stage or something. 512 00:42:41.460 --> 00:42:43.380 It's the sad trombone. 513 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.980 It's just like next door. 514 00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.219 There's something called the radiophonic workshop, right? 515 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:55.380 Get Dick Mills, the banger drum, play it in reverse and put it through an oscillator and use that. 516 00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.840 Don't go, bobble, bobble, b, b, b, b, b. 517 00:42:57.900 --> 00:43:05.159 And now Terry and June, you know, it's, I hate, it's my 2nd least favourite thing about Blake 7. 518 00:43:05.219 --> 00:43:07.260 We'll get to the most least favourite. 519 00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:07.980 What? 520 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:09.119 In a few weeks. 521 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:10.260 Cliffhangers. 522 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:30.239 I have to say, I greatly respect that when Big Finish started doing the Liberator Chronicles, not only they had to recreate the teleport sound effect, because the sound effect itself is classed as a piece of music, much like the TARDIS materialisation is, but they also recreated the Dudley Simpson musical queue to go with the teleport effects. 523 00:43:30.300 --> 00:43:44.880 The thing that struck me about the teleport watching at this time, because I'm trying to watch it with a bit more of a critical eye, is the teleport effect arriving on the planet with the outline slowly, well, defining and then the person appearing makes a lot of sense to me. 524 00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:46.260 The women wiggly will. 525 00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:47.099 Is that how they actually did it? 526 00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.320 And I'm doing the action deal this now. 527 00:43:49.980 --> 00:43:52.139 That's how they actually did it. 528 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.099 They don't know what I'm doing or what I'm wearing. 529 00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:58.019 But the wibbly wobbly woo. 530 00:43:58.139 --> 00:44:05.099 It just occurred to be watching it this time and really paying attention to the conversation where they're talking about, you know, what if you're not put back together properly. 531 00:44:05.219 --> 00:44:06.960 This is experimental, da da da. 532 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:16.920 How terrifying must it have been for Avon and Jennifer a few seconds because what they've seen is that Blake's body has suddenly occupied a space 3 times the size of fusion. 533 00:44:16.980 --> 00:44:22.260 He does rapidly shimmying from side to side and then disappearing with a loud sound effect. 534 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.960 It's a good thing Blake does immediately say, yeah, I'm fine. 535 00:44:25.019 --> 00:44:25.320 Im fine. 536 00:44:25.380 --> 00:44:25.739 Don't worry. 537 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:26.460 Yes, I'm fine. 538 00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:27.360 It's all fine here. 539 00:44:27.420 --> 00:44:27.840 How are you? 540 00:44:27.900 --> 00:44:28.199 Yeah. 541 00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:32.460 Yeah, there are just certain operational aspects of the series that we've just got to get over and done with. 542 00:44:32.579 --> 00:44:34.440 And like, yes, they've got to teleport it. 543 00:44:34.500 --> 00:44:34.800 It works. 544 00:44:34.860 --> 00:44:36.659 They just pressed the buttons and it worked. 545 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:41.820 We could have had an extra 5 characters and kill the 1st 3 in attempt failing to use it properly. 546 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:43.320 The only downside to this episode. 547 00:44:43.380 --> 00:44:49.800 But I don't see why they're doing it, but you're about 20 minutes in and still most of your central cast are up on the spaceship reading the instruction manual. 548 00:44:49.860 --> 00:44:53.460 And it's not a traditional, but that's because it's got that job to do. 549 00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:55.019 A normal episode. 550 00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:57.000 Well, obviously plunge them all in all into the action. 551 00:44:57.059 --> 00:45:00.719 So, but it's not doing that. is still doing the setup works, fair, fair, fair, fair. 552 00:45:00.780 --> 00:45:05.579 But I love when not beaming down, teleporting down, both times that he does it. 553 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.500 Blake lands wobbly. 554 00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.000 Like he does proper... 555 00:45:09.059 --> 00:45:12.659 I've landed with my feet side by side, but I'm on a hill, so I'm toppling slightly acting. 556 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:16.079 But that's the Rada showing in him, I think, as well. 557 00:45:16.139 --> 00:45:18.059 Yeah, he's pulled that. 558 00:45:18.059 --> 00:45:19.019 He's pulled that through. 559 00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:29.460 I really love the line where, after all that, that Brendan has just explained about his body being pulled apart, and Genesis, well, he said, well, like nothing at all, really. 560 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.019 That's it. 561 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:40.019 I like the sort of, and the figurativeness of that, the effect when they do materialise is so 2D. you know, that 2D line coming in from the sides of your screen and she said, Brendan. 562 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:45.719 That's something that if you're actually there, you couldn't see it like that because it's a flat line. 563 00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:51.000 So is this supposed to be representing like a 3D haze that comes together. 564 00:45:51.059 --> 00:45:57.179 But it does the thing that old science fiction always does, which is putting some of the effect into your brain. 565 00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:03.480 You know that that's not exactly what everyone there is seeing, and your brain is sort of finishing it off. 566 00:46:03.539 --> 00:46:04.019 Yeah. 567 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.800 That's just, that's why I like shonky effects is what I'm basically saying. 568 00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:13.019 There's a little bit of direction and scripting. 569 00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:14.039 I noticed that I liked. 570 00:46:14.099 --> 00:46:20.760 And I think it happens twice in the episode where the last word of the previous scene becomes the 1st word of the next scene. 571 00:46:20.820 --> 00:46:31.739 It happens for the 1st time at the end of the recap. when Captain Leland says that the prisoners who escaped were prisoners, Blake, Stanis and Avon. 572 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:36.840 And as he says that, we're in the teleport chamber and Blake immediately says, Avon, look at this. 573 00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:37.619 Okay. 574 00:46:37.619 --> 00:46:47.579 And then they have to run back to the flight deck because Jenna notices they've stopped and Blake says, okay, move it, then you can't back to Signus Alpha and Arctics is saying to the prisoners, move it. 575 00:46:47.699 --> 00:46:54.000 It's almost like listening to a long-running podcast trying to work out who's who. helping us out. 576 00:46:54.179 --> 00:46:58.920 We're keeping our listeners guessing as to how many of us there's going to be on this one, for example. 577 00:47:01.980 --> 00:47:05.519 Is that why you asked Australians to be on this to give people a bit of a chance? 578 00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:09.300 I assumed you're on this one because it's a peanut belly. 579 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:16.679 I think the archo of this podcast has just bravely identified himself. 580 00:47:19.739 --> 00:47:25.679 At the end of this episode, it comes with that nice little bit of momentum building. 581 00:47:25.739 --> 00:47:27.539 Oh, there are some ships on our tail. 582 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:29.760 They're not going to catch us, not this time. 583 00:47:29.820 --> 00:47:34.860 And it's, that's a nice, not actually tying Terry Nation into having to pick up a get up next week. 584 00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:36.059 Can't remember whether he does or not. 585 00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:42.300 But it just establishes that this is going to run. you know, this is this has got momentum. 586 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.159 It's not this is not just episodes of the week. 587 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.199 Even when it is episodes of the week. 588 00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:50.880 It's going to have some pace to it through the series, which is a really nice way of ending an episode. 589 00:47:50.940 --> 00:47:52.920 Yep, we've nearly got a full crew. 590 00:47:52.980 --> 00:47:54.960 Maybe, perhaps. 591 00:47:55.019 --> 00:47:56.820 Who knows where we're going next week? 592 00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:02.219 And it also ends with the promise that they're not going to run away every time. 593 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:18.719 You know, Blake clearly says that the reason they're running away is they don't know how to work the weapons yet, but as soon as they understand this ship, they're going to stand it by, but he is being practical. which kind of runs up against what Avon was saying earlier. 594 00:48:18.780 --> 00:48:29.820 The reason Avon wants to leave is because he knows Blake is going to, you know, run in and get them all killed and like, of course, isn't privy to that conversation, but makes it clear that, no, I'm not going to go into a fight. 595 00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:31.440 I can't win if I can run away. 596 00:48:31.500 --> 00:48:37.380 And I think that's sort of how he tries to talk to Vargas as well because he doesn't lie to Vargas. 597 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:44.400 He is one of the prisoners, but he doesn't volunteer the information that he has this that he has this ship because he doesn't know if he can trust him. 598 00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:45.780 But as soon as he has no choice. 599 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:51.900 He is completely upfront because he wants the best chance to get out of this situation. 600 00:48:52.019 --> 00:49:03.539 And even when they do eventually do their prison break, it's not just, we're going to run into the throne room screaming, it's like, no, we're going to use subterfuge, we're going to get as close as we possibly can before we launch the attack. 601 00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.400 He's not a bull in a china shop. 602 00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:13.980 He's he is a man of action, which I always find kind of amusing with Gareth Thomas, because they figured out at this point, he doesn't look good while he's running. 603 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:20.880 If you look at the way back and there's that bin where he's running and gets whacked on the head by a federation guard. 604 00:49:20.940 --> 00:49:22.260 His arms are flapping about everywhere. 605 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:31.800 Well, when he's running in this, it's all sort of close-ups and quick cuts and angle, angle, angle, you know, also because I only lit one part of the quarry. 606 00:49:31.860 --> 00:49:33.300 So he has to run through that several times. 607 00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.199 But it does obscure the fact that Gareth Thomas. 608 00:49:37.500 --> 00:49:42.239 Gareth Thomas does not have a dramatic exciting run, like say David Tennant. 609 00:49:42.300 --> 00:49:44.760 He's not nimble, is that what you think? 610 00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:49.260 I'm sure that they're sure that part about sometimes in episode one as well, don't they? 611 00:49:49.380 --> 00:49:51.659 The bit of him running through that tunnel. 612 00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:52.260 Yeah. 613 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.599 Patrick McGuan resigning it ain't. 614 00:49:54.659 --> 00:49:57.539 Yeah, what you're saying there about not fighting if they don't have to. 615 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:02.579 It made me think because they do they do generate a little bit of sympathy for Captain Leyland, is it? 616 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:10.800 And the other surviving crew member that basically careers are going to be over because of because of what's happened on this on this flight. 617 00:50:10.860 --> 00:50:17.280 So yeah, I guess it's they're not just going to blow up federation ships, I suppose, if they can help it, because just doing their job, aren't they, I guess, in a way? 618 00:50:17.340 --> 00:50:18.059 Yeah. 619 00:50:18.059 --> 00:50:37.980 And even last week in that, once Raker has quelled the rebellion, Blake and Leyland talk about how Raker's actions were an overreaction to the situation and Leyland says it's going to be in my report, he's going to go on report. 620 00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:40.380 So, yeah, there is definitely sympathy there. 621 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:50.219 And I think that's, again, deliberate on the part of Nation to say the Federation is the enemy in this show, but not everyone who works for them is the enemy. 622 00:50:50.219 --> 00:50:53.099 And I'm going to have, there's going to be Shades of Grey here. 623 00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:57.599 And I'm saying nation at this point because I'm sure that for these early ones, he was a lot more hands-on. 624 00:50:57.659 --> 00:51:13.380 Yeah, and we make, I've made a couple of cracks about determination, right, about some of the writing, but I mean, that is in the contest of this being an amazingly well-written show, that a fantastically written, the work of a genius, getting this up and up running and putting all these pieces in place. 625 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.980 It's just such a good script. 626 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.320 Yeah, we're hitting the ground running. 627 00:51:19.380 --> 00:51:21.420 But will we judge to a halt next week? 628 00:51:28.139 --> 00:51:31.920 So that's it for our look back at Sickness Alpha. 629 00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:36.900 We'll be back next week to have a look at episode four, Time Squad. 630 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.900 So thank you very much for everyone who has taken part today. 631 00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:40.860 Thank you very much. 632 00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:41.400 Bye everyone. 633 00:51:41.460 --> 00:51:41.940 Goodbye. 634 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:42.360 Thanks. 635 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.139 Switching to manual. 636 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.480 Maximum power on all drives. 637 00:51:57.539 --> 00:51:59.460 So power.