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Maximal power.

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Welcome to Maximum Power, the pestilential rat hole of a podcast with Vulpine degenerates, space tramps, and a 10 credit touch if you're lucky.

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Because this week we're off for the eviscerating experience of Amelia DeCat's KitKat Club Cabaret Space Chess Carnival, it's Gambit.

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I'm Pete.

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I'm the very Vulpine Brendan.

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I'm Colin.

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I'm Mark.

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And I'm Nathan.

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Now, I think it's fair to say that nobody thinks Gambit is an average episode of Blake Sam.

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But a gambit is a chess move where you sacrifice a pawn at the beginning to try and give yourself an advantage.

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Nathan, what did you make of this episode?

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I had always loved this one.

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I'm doing a reverse TARD on this. listen to flights through entirety.

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And watching it lately and every time I've watched it lately, I actually think it's probably not very good.

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And I think it's hardly.

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It's almost all George Spenton Foster's fault.

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He's terrible.

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The pacing is absolutely shit.

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There's no atmosphere.

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We desperately need June Hudson in this episode and we have Ken Ledsome or whatever who, what did, yes, minister.

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And even Bob Holmes seems to be having a bad day.

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I agree with you, Nathan. you know, received wisdom, as we say, is that this is like the classic and it's a good one.

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Um, and I watched, I watched singing this afternoon.

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I was like, there's so many characters.

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And I was, and at one point, I've, I, I was like, I was getting bored and looked up and goes, this scene's still going on between the guy dressed as a humbug.

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And the, you know, John Leeson dressed as a Centauri.

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I was like, is this still going on?

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So, yeah, it's kind of like, there's a couple of good bits, but the rest of it is just like this long padding to just find out that your arm isn't going to explode.

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That's it.

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Yeah, and it's never quite clear to me whether Travis thinks the bomb is real until he's saying, oh, get it out of my arm, but he sort of wakes up and says the server lab, what have you done to me, knowing there's a listening device and it's just, what do people know in this episode and when do they know it?

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He's something that's not entirely clear.

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Even though there's hours and hours of scenes explaining things to each other.

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This is John Lacarre level plotting.

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This is, we don't know, everyone's got at least 2 names.

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People have only got one name and get their name pronounced different ways just to help make it more confusing.

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Um, I, I, I think, um, Jeriere's little, um, proto Sylvester McCoy.

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Sylvester McCoy could play that role in the movie that I'm sketching out in my head. as Serverland's hench person. and replaced the fact that she's replaced that she's replaced Travis with literally a fool, which will get another iteration of next week.

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There's a theme running here, I think.

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Yeah, why is Lee Fair even in it?

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Someone for her to expond it to.

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I mean, that's all.

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You say that like it's a bad thing?

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It's like I said, way back in weapon that they should have kept Carnel on to give Servolan someone intelligent to talk to.

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You know, I'm sitting here going, why is she putting up with this person who keeps saying, but why?

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Commander.

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I mean, the problem is that the show won't do any more regulars than it already has.

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So it was never going to contract someone to play that role.

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And so we just get a sort of different person each week.

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And look, I think one of the strengths of Blake 7 is that it's completely different every week.

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Never again is anywhere near the Federation, anything like this with fucking nuns and, you know, priests and shit all over the place.

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And I think that's great.

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We've talked about that as a strength before, but it also just means there's no kind of overall plan and it all just sort of wanders from place to place a bit, despite the arc.

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I think there's a brilliant idea at the heart of this episode, which isn't fully realised, and that is that there's a Mardi Gras carnival on.

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So the one day of the year where everybody's dressed up as regency princes and cavaliers and nuns is the day that they all arrive.

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And they should have made more of the fact that that means that they stand out like a sore thumb because they're not in the costume and Blake should have thought, I should have worn my big sleeve thing.

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At least I'd have fit in a bit more.

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It's like, you know, in Blackadder, when he's facing the court martial and Baldrick brings in the escape kit and he said, you know, if you got something to help me blend in in a French village and he goes, I have, and he pulls out a Robin Hood outfit or something.

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And he says, well, I thought, what if the village was having a fancy dress party when you arrive?

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It's like the reverse of that.

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If Zen had been switched on this week.

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Maybe he would have thought.

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Yeah, tends to start learning updates this week, I think.

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That's why he came up from it.

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At least so, okay, Jenna and Callie get to go on a mission and I love Jenna's bye to Villa and Avon as they go down.

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But unfortunately it's me, I really get to do all that much apart from having their amazing cat fight, but apparently that was edited, their roles were edited quite a bit because originally they had a whole plot line of being ladies of the night that was, it was decided, had to be taken out of it.

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It's like, yeah, that's your one.

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The one time they get to go on a mission, or pretending to be anyway, you know.

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There are 2 great things about that cat fight.

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One is it is basically Pat and Peggy from each EastEnders.

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Yeah, you slag.

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And then it's when it's off camera and they're still fighting each other and there's all these ridiculous sound effects.

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Oh my god, what are they doing?

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What it says, what it says, you so-and-so, where the scripts, the scripts obviously run out, they just have they continue to fight.

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No, you are, but what am I?

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You space harpy.

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I will say as much fun as that was.

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I was kind of sitting there going, so let me get this straight.

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They've been on the ship making the coffee for 10 weeks and when you give them something to do, they're 2 women scratching at each other's eyes out because of that.

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Yeah, because we will do that to anyone, to be fair.

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Yeah.

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I think it's the sure that she puts in the Midori.

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It's like what the hell are they doing?

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Because I really liked them sitting at the bar being surly having their drinks and everyone else is having a great time and they're just like, we don't want to talk to anyone.

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We're too cool for this.

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And it ties in with.

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He ties in with what you were saying earlier that everyone else is here for Mardi Gras, but they're here to find out information on Star one.

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And that's the other thing I'm finding with the Star one arc.

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The stories aren't really about the search for Star one.

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It's just at the end of the episode, Blake grabs the guest of the week and says, well, where's Star one?

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And they're like, I don't know, but this person does and he's for God's sake.

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So...

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Docily.

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Now, time has clearly passed since the last episode.

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That's the way I read these things, which some people would call a plot hole, but I think time has passed in various ways.

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One being Dockley has now been doxed by everyone.

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And then, oh, here's a photo of the guy we've been looking for.

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He's spotlight photo, actually, it turns out.

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It's a very nice photo, yeah.

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It's always nice when a cyber surgeon gets a nice photo taken.

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He is possibly the world's worst side surge..

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It's Professor Chrono tits again.

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It is hard to take him seriously as this hard bitten.

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Did you, I didn't know until I watched it with the subtitles on to make my concentration on the plot that, um, it, uh, Doc Colley, it's spelt as like Doc Holiday.

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I've already mentioned this in another episode, but yeah.

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So he was supposed, it's not, it sounds like they're saying dockerly, like a bit like a docker.

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And the fact that he goes down to the docking area at one point as well.

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This was the 1st episode of Blake 7 that I rewatched as an adult.

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Um, so it did set me with very unrealistic expectations as to what I was going to be getting with the rest of the thing.

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But it worked.

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It did its job.

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My friend was like, yeah, I think I'll show you this one, Pete.

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I think I think this might get you get you get you back into it.

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But yeah, it's supposed to be this amazing cyber surgeon.

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It starts with a guy complaining his legs are the wrong length.

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And then when Travis has got a broker arm doesn't work, he's just immediately going back to him with his guarantee.

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I don't know what the what kind of warranty he gives on these jobs that he's doing.

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He's really got a very good record at all.

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Can we just talk about the arm for a second?

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It's really shit, isn't it?

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Like, it's really quite extraordinary.

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And like they just stick it.

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Like it's like he's got one shoulder longer than the other.

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Like there's literally no attempt to do anything, but stick it on the outside of his actual arm.

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And you know, there's kind of a, I've used this line before, I think, when we were talking about the chase on another podcast.

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Spent and Foster has this kind of that'll do attitude.

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You know, like there's just half-assedness to the production.

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It's a half-assed universe.

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I read that.

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It's very digetic.

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The crappy tinsel.

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It isn't even a good Mardi Gras.

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Yeah, tint someone out. car park.

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Yeah. show in the galaxy car park.

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It's the beer is under the beer.

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It's under the BFI, isn't it, I think?

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National Theatre.

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Yeah.

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Which says so much about so many of these cats did go to Rada.

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And now here they are covered in tinsel in the basement under the national. including Aubrey Woods.

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The scene when Cini's packing Dockley off to, yeah, she tries to help him on with his coat.

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And he's also trying to put the coat on and the 2 of them can figure out.

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So they just style it out and she'll treat it as a stall or something instead.

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We're still gonna keep going.

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Still keep going.

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No, they spent hours working that out in rehearsal.

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It'll be a little bit business.

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It will be great.

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We do get lots lots of our homes and double act clacks in this.

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Everyone gets a pair and and and, well, there's a lot of that and and they're all about reflecting each other and and Dockley and Cini are definitely one of those and they get some of them.

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I did a because this has got a heck of a lot of people in it, hasn't it?

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And it was a lot of names to learn.

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And I did a little word search.

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Who do you think gets the most lines in this episode?

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Jerry Ere.

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No, he's not even he's about ninth or something.

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He gets, he gets 10 more lines than Jenna, and he's not in the top.

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Oh, God.

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And a lot more.

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Is it the woman that looks like Betty Davis from Death on the Nile that says 1000000 credits?

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Yeah.

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She's gone to Mardi Gras, Madonna.

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No, it's not her.

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It's Servolan.

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I've got a theory that this whole episode is a backdoor pilot for a server and spinoff where she just goes around the universe finding things tiresome. and having people killed.

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That's a show.

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What more do you need?

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Jimmy Cranky could be a sidekick next week.

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It's actually kind of funny seeing her be being prim and being a bit of a good girl.

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You know, she won't take the drugs, she won't sort of eat the patechy cakes.

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She's actually really kind of a little bit less naughty than, you know, Crantor is.

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Yeah, and we don't know to what extent that's her.

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I think in this episode, we get to see a new layer to serve alone because we can see she's not, she's outside the Federation.

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She's not on her own turf, although she's got plans for it, and there's that, there's, there's one line that, that just really stands out to me where she's, she's someone who doesn't want to have the place closed down and she just says, as I have argued for years, like she's a put-upon member of the, of the project team.

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Federation HQ who's been trying to convince she's the supreme commander.

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Who has she argued with for years?

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And unsuccessfully.

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That's an amazing thing to just sort of drop in there.

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And I think that turns her from the steely...

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I mean, we've seen, oh, we've seen it.

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We seen it before plenty of times really, but here it just, that just really lands it, that there's more to her.

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She's not just Darth Vader in her dress.

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She's got these layers.

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And that's what goes into the whole issue of what campness is, doesn't it?

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that she can do that.

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She can drop the mask a little bit.

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And her 1st scene on the space sofa, wearing a mask, holding a dove of peace.

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She immediately chucks out, chucks away as soon as Crown door is ready to see her.

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And I love the power play where Crantor keeps calling her commander and she keeps correcting him to supreme commander.

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And, uh, but then Jerry air calls a commander all the time.

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She doesn't give a shit.

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Oh, he's not even an underling, is he?

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He's a renter.

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He always came with the sofa.

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It's just a sofa delivery guy.

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The great thing about server line is that how she normally dresses as well.

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I mean, she fits in at the Mardi Gras.

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And that's what I thought he should have made a flux point of that.

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Yeah, that, like, that she can just fit in easily through her normal dress in a way that, you know, Blake and his friends can't.

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But I think the 1st time I watched it.

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I thought when she leaves Crantor's quarters and tells him which room she's in, uh, because they've been lying on the bed together and things, I took that to be more suggestive than it was and then as the episode unfolds, um, it becomes clear that it's just like so that you can bring me Travis and Docley and let me know the, yeah, keep me updated sort of thing.

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What happens at freedom City stays at freedom.

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Maybe everyone...

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It's probably only one key that works every room, Dora.

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Something I find very interesting about Servoland's motivations in this is, you know, usually when she wants a planet or whatever, it's because there's a scientist there that she wants or there's some resource that she wants, but she wants to shut down Freedom City because of its sort of moral decrepitude as she sees it.

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And given that crantor and toys are very unsubtly coded as being queer, if not completely gay.

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Um, I find that very interesting from Serverland, who, right from her 1st episode, it's clear that she is a very sensual character when she's talking to that captain.

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Is it Roy?

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Ray.

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Yeah, it's very clear that they've had a dalliance in the past and she uses that against him.

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So then for Servoland to sort of turn around and say, no, this place is too sexy.

211
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I won't abide it.

212
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It's very interesting because it's a change in motivation for her and...

213
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It implies...

214
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One of the few times where she's not just out for doing something for herself.

215
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Like she is getting something out of it, but she actually sees this place as dangerous, not to her, but to the federation.

216
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And I'm not even sure we see that again really from server land. you know, it's usually sort of self- self-self, even trying to track down Blake is for the kudos that gives her within the Federation. power system.

217
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But yeah, I was just watching that going, that's that's really interesting.

218
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And of course, this is only Robert Holmes' 2nd script for the series, I want to say, after killer.

219
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Yeah, it is.

220
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Yeah.

221
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Yeah.

222
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She's got no authority here.

223
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She probably hates that about it as much as...

224
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Just the idea of being somewhere.

225
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The Becky Weaver in space.

226
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Eat the Petrachia cake and understand it, sir.

227
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You know, I actually really, really, seriously hate Aubrey Woods as Cran, sorry.

228
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And I'll tell you why.

229
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When I watched this as a kid, or not as a kid, like as a, like I watched this as a kid when it was 1st on TV at Australia, but when the videotapes came out, I was watching it through properly, I thought this was fantastic, it's like super gay, look, toys and crants were gay, blah, blah, blah.

230
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But, like, Woods just leans into every, every line and makes it into a kind of smutty innuendo, you know, like the relish with which he says, you know, it is our duty to serve our fellows, you know, like to drop to our knees and serve our fellows.

231
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And it just all just seems a little bit sordid to me.

232
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And like he's constantly kind of like wiping something off the corner of his mouth and like I just think it's super gross, you know?

233
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Me too.

234
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I love about it.

235
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The unsubtlety.

236
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Yeah, the unsubtlety is great.

237
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There's that little edit where Crantor says, well, whatever happens, Crantor wins both ways.

238
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And then it cuts to Villa going, they say it's wide open.

239
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Avon says, what is?

240
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So he goes, Freedom City?

241
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Not the character in the previous city.

242
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Yes, it is, boys.

243
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We know what you're doing wrong at home.

244
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You're a smutter.

245
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Do you know, actually, when he does it in a couple of years time with Agrarian and Pinder, who are just very explicitly gay, I think, you know, we can't say it on television or something.

246
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I'm actually less offended by that.

247
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Even though Agrarian is really super grotesque, there's, I don't know.

248
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There just seems to be some kind of unpleasant.

249
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It's homes being a prick about gay people, I think, almost certainly.

250
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And then Spenson Foster, who's never seen like a camp excess that he can't shoehorn into an episode.

251
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Just runs with it.

252
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And I just sort of think it all isn't that great.

253
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See, I think it's all part of the cabaret atmosphere.

254
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So, Crantor is like the MC.

255
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But of course, so is the croupier a little bit.

256
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The croupier is also a little bit liesa Manelli.

257
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Yeah, but, you know, more Judy Garland's age.

258
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Um, And yeah, it's Robert Holmes doing space cabaret.

259
00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:29.700
And Serverland is the Nazis coming over the hill, you know, and the thing is, you know, Robert Holmes giving Serverland a a motivation beyond what she wants for herself makes her scarier in this.

260
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And I think that's probably him going, I know my story's a little bit ridiculous, and the characters are a little bit ridiculous.

261
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So I'm going to give this really quite terrifying threat because obviously it's not Brian Croucher at this point.

262
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Like, I've said before that I've quite enjoyed Brown Crutch's performance, but it is now getting to the point where he's just sort of gnashing at the furniture. with that.

263
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Well, okay, because this was the 1st time I ever saw Travis, I think, because I, or the 1st time I could, I didn't have clear memories of Travis from when I was a kid, because it was only the last 2 series I remembered clearly much.

264
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Um, so this was my introduction to him.

265
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And seeing him as this kind of, I think, um, that he just like walked out of an Ultravox video 2 years before Ultravox got invented.

266
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And in this, he's, he's, he's camp, but it's silly and quiet and also nasty.

267
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Um, homophobic to, to, uh, to Jariere.

268
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Definitely pronouncing powder puff the way that in his natural accent.

269
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He's pronouncing it P-O-F, not P-U-A. Yeah, obviously.

270
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But that's an accent thing.

271
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Already, we don't like this guy.

272
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It's clearly just when you're really going off somewhere.

273
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You can find out they're even worse as well as being a genocidal thing.

274
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Is there a bit right at the start where the guy he shoots?

275
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Is that the same actor from the 1st episode?

276
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Yes.

277
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Yeah. the same plate?

278
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It's Blake's defender.

279
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Yeah.

280
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No, a different name. everyone's...

281
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It's not the same part.

282
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No.

283
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We can head cannon.

284
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He's caught Z. Yeah, of course, yeah, because yeah, of course he dies, doesn't he?

285
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So what spoilerer?

286
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Sorry, in the 1st episode.

287
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Yeah, they just found outside the film, isn't he?

288
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I'm like...

289
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Maybe you just faint his own death. hard to tell.

290
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It's like there are 2 Tarrants, so there can be 2 whatevers.

291
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Tell Varon.

292
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His brother, Val, Darren.

293
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The thing that really annoys me about Tell Varren being back in another role is we've just had voice from the past last week with fucking awful fake Van Glynn and his stupid beard.

294
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It's like, you know, if, um, if Michael Halsey was available, why couldn't he have been available last week and actually tell Varon survived?

295
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Oh, but you were killed in a skimmer accident.

296
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Yes, but then I killed Jeremy Wilkin.

297
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I wasn't actually dead.

298
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You know, nothing's going to say this from Travis's disguise last week, but we could have actually had, and, you know, that would make it more believable as someone who was always on Blake's side instead of someone who wasn't on Blake's side, but now is, but he's a different actor, but he's betrayed anyway.

299
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And I couldn't even decide last week whether I cared about Legrun or not, let alone...

300
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She's spent and foster again. isn't it?

301
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Like, he's really terrible.

302
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What do we think of Ava and Villa's plot?

303
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I'm home alone.

304
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It's like the opposite of home alone.

305
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It's supposed to be staying home alone, and instead they go out.

306
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So can I ask a question?

307
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Can you contact Aurac when Aurax on the ship?

308
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Can you use your bracelet to contact Aurac from the ground?

309
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That would have been a good idea.

310
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So they shrink Morak, but Villa is still communicating with him through his communicator.

311
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They could have been the left, I told you, not things through like this.

312
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Maybe Bob Holmes didn't have a mobile phone.

313
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I guess that's just possible So he doesn't know how things work when you can communicate with people all the time.

314
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And I'm absolutely here for that stupid scene where he tricks or acting to shrinking himself.

315
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My, this is how I imagine it went right.

316
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Someone said, like Maloney said to Bob, look, no, you can't communicate with Aurak from the ship.

317
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So you'll have to find some way of taking him down.

318
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And he said, all right, fuck you.

319
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He is what I'm going to.

320
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And so he shrinks.

321
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And like that's just the sort of home scene.

322
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And that's awesome.

323
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I think that's really great.

324
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My head cannon is just about him only having Bluetooth.

325
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Oh, fair enough.

326
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I will say my one disappointment with this, because it's incredibly fun, is that I think it's utterly out of character for Avon to do this.

327
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Like I know he, he's on the ship at the beginning because of his failed bank fraud.

328
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But, you know, that was to get money for Anna to get away.

329
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And I think he's always saying to Villa, no, don't run off.

330
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Don't go to the casino, don't get drunk, and this time he's like, it's Avon kind of going, yeah, I heard the security's really impressed.

331
00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:25.500
Yeah, I've heard they have a lot of money.

332
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Yeah, Villa.

333
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Yeah.

334
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Don't they?

335
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Don't they, Villa?

336
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Yeah.

337
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Don't have fun.

338
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Someone has to do it though.

339
00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:33.059
It's a casino.

340
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You want a casino heist?

341
00:24:34.740 --> 00:24:36.240
you want them to sort of play the casino?

342
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I just think the problem is that the realisation of the casino is so shit.

343
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It's so tampered, you know. that it never really feels like we're in a casino.

344
00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:48.000
It's cool, not Vegas, isn't it?

345
00:24:48.059 --> 00:24:49.740
Yeah, it's miserable.

346
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:53.940
And Holmes must have known that that was the best they were going to be able to do.

347
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So it never really comes off as a casino.

348
00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:02.880
But I'm absolutely there for like let's go and try and, you know, I don't know what the verb is.

349
00:25:02.940 --> 00:25:04.440
Let's go and try and kind of.

350
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Cheat at the casino.

351
00:25:07.259 --> 00:25:08.039
There's a verb.

352
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:11.579
You're so pure, Nathan.

353
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:12.720
You don't even know the right.

354
00:25:13.380 --> 00:25:19.319
And there's only crunter and toys who are in charge of it, in charge of security, in charge of anything.

355
00:25:20.579 --> 00:25:23.759
And then it's like he somehow is doing it.

356
00:25:23.819 --> 00:25:26.460
He keeps putting that big chunky bracelet up to his ear.

357
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And there's that guy in the silver anorak eating soup with another bracelet on a box.

358
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With a flashing one?

359
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can't believe it.

360
00:25:38.220 --> 00:25:40.799
Yeah, it's like they've never heard of communicators.

361
00:25:40.859 --> 00:25:43.380
It really is the world's shittest casino.

362
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:44.940
It's ocean too, isn't it?

363
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:45.299
Yeah.

364
00:25:45.660 --> 00:25:51.599
It's more like it's the Isle of Man rather than Blackpool.

365
00:25:51.660 --> 00:26:04.079
I suppose it's meant to be spoofing like Sun City or you know, 70s awareness of there being these out of beyond legislation areas where places like this were set up.

366
00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:04.740
But yeah, it's not.

367
00:26:04.740 --> 00:26:05.940
But we can have...

368
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.279
I suppose now, Pete, because we've left the European Union.

369
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Your sausages can be filled with sawdust.

370
00:26:14.339 --> 00:26:20.640
My favourite bit about that Avon Villa storyline is the way when they're back on the Liberator.

371
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And he's like, hi, the money, hide the money.

372
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.519
And then they call up and they one goes, hello, liberator, can I help you?

373
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Avon, like, I must act innocently.

374
00:26:32.460 --> 00:26:33.779
What's that?

375
00:26:37.019 --> 00:26:39.960
Yeah, and he has that line, he has that line.

376
00:26:40.019 --> 00:26:43.859
Blake has how Blake says how it's gone and everyone says, oh, great, wonderful terrific.

377
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:45.839
That's wonderful, terrific.

378
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:46.140
Lovely.

379
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:46.619
Terrific.

380
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.140
There's not a word you'd expect everyone to say.

381
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.220
Yeah, and Blake's whole suspicion seems to come down to, Avon, you're not being a prick.

382
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:53.880
What's up?

383
00:26:53.940 --> 00:26:55.200
What's happening?

384
00:26:56.819 --> 00:26:59.099
I've seen some people claim.

385
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.859
I've seen some people claim online that J.

386
00:27:01.859 --> 00:27:07.140
Michael Stratinsky was inspired by Blake 7 to create, well, he said it himself to create Babylon 5.

387
00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:17.099
I've seen people claim it was actually just this episode. make it less tinsely and you're not far off. give it higher budget.

388
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:18.000
I heard that as well.

389
00:27:18.059 --> 00:27:19.019
I'm watching it earlier.

390
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:23.039
I wrote down, you know, several kind of things about um, about Breck 7.

391
00:27:23.099 --> 00:27:32.099
It's like the Crantor and Toys do look like the Centauri, and then all the sort of drapes and everywhere in the palace, it's a little bit like that as well.

392
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:37.740
And, uh, and then there's, and you step outside and it is a car park dressed with tinsball watch.

393
00:27:37.740 --> 00:27:40.619
Well, it's about...

394
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.299
It's a port of call.

395
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:43.200
A home away from home.

396
00:27:43.259 --> 00:27:43.980
That's right.

397
00:27:43.980 --> 00:27:45.059
Regency princes.

398
00:27:45.059 --> 00:27:46.500
Catholic.

399
00:27:47.339 --> 00:27:49.920
Oh, last best hope for chess.

400
00:27:51.180 --> 00:27:54.000
Re-exhumed Liza Manelli.

401
00:27:54.900 --> 00:28:04.559
Can we talk about how incredibly dull and undramatic and completely lacking intention the chess scenes are?

402
00:28:04.619 --> 00:28:05.819
They're really bad.

403
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:07.380
The music.

404
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.039
The music's great.

405
00:28:11.099 --> 00:28:12.660
Deep Roy is having a fun time.

406
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:17.579
The Mr. Sims laugh is actually his laugh, which is fucking terrifying.

407
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:40.380
Elizabeth Park is going great going full on Jean-Michel Ja for it. take that back I thought it was going to be some kind of twist where it turns out that Deep Roy's character was actually being fed, moves by a computer as well, and that was why Avon spotted that Aurak would be able to help him.

408
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:42.180
But it just seems to be a gamble, doesn't it?

409
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:43.559
It's just sort of like, no, play the game.

410
00:28:43.619 --> 00:28:44.220
It'll be okay.

411
00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:46.680
It's really funny.

412
00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:49.319
This is our 2nd chess computer of the season.

413
00:28:49.319 --> 00:29:04.319
And it is sort of super hilarious to think of this show being made in a world where no one knew that computers could just wipe, you know, like kick people's asses in chess with no particular difficulty without breaking a sweat all the time.

414
00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:08.579
The Queen's Gamba is definitely not based on this in any way.

415
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:18.779
I have a suspicion that in the spring of 1979, maybe as Abu Watouring through the UK, Bjorn and Benny might have caught this episode before.

416
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:24.240
After this ABBA thing's burned out, maybe it's room for a musical in this kind of chess contest thing.

417
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.240
Maybe have, you know, Elaine Page and Servolan role.

418
00:29:27.299 --> 00:29:28.859
Barbara Dixon is the klute.

419
00:29:28.859 --> 00:29:32.640
Yeah, they had to shake it up a bit for copyright reasons.

420
00:29:33.779 --> 00:29:36.960
Well, we're talking about other sci-fi series.

421
00:29:37.019 --> 00:29:43.799
When Crantor introduces the 1st speed chess contestant, does he call him a young trekker?

422
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.880
Isn't that what Trekkies tried to rebrand themselves as in the 90s?

423
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:59.039
Yeah, it was a whole fandom war thing of people wanting to be Trekkers and Trekkies and that and that's sort of what Futurama sends up with the Star Trek Wars.

424
00:29:59.099 --> 00:30:01.140
Oh, you mean the massive migration of Star Wars fans?

425
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.400
No, that was the Star Wars trek.

426
00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:09.960
I did think for a 2nd that maybe Holmes was making fun of Star Trek, people. very probably.

427
00:30:10.019 --> 00:30:12.539
Probably didn't give a shit about that.

428
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.720
He doesn't look particularly young either, does he?

429
00:30:15.779 --> 00:30:21.480
He's like a, he's like a sort of another sort of fat nobleman in a regency portrait sort of guy.

430
00:30:21.539 --> 00:30:23.579
Okay, non-speaking part as well.

431
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:25.500
He has to whisper his name like sooty.

432
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.779
He doesn't even...

433
00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:30.779
He doesn't get a death scream as well.

434
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:32.039
He just he just explodes.

435
00:30:32.099 --> 00:30:34.079
Yeah, his punishes.

436
00:30:34.140 --> 00:30:37.559
I guess I'd cast Stephen Toast in that role in it.

437
00:30:37.619 --> 00:30:39.599
He'd be right in.

438
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.420
On the topic of the speed chess.

439
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.059
The costume designer for this story is Barbara Kidd.

440
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.339
Yeah, where's June?

441
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.140
We really need a June this episode.

442
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:55.140
I mean, Barbara Kid just went to the BBC wardrobes and just pulled out whatever old shit she could find.

443
00:30:55.200 --> 00:31:01.380
The thing is, the Barbara kid also... costume.

444
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.740
Let's put Sylvia Coleridge in a leotard.

445
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:11.339
I wonder which ones of those actually are costumes for Mardi Gras or does the nuns just actually go there every day?

446
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:12.720
Yeah, no, nuns go.

447
00:31:12.779 --> 00:31:14.220
Very degenerate.

448
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:20.880
Well, amongst her past triumphs, however, are frontier in space in Doctor Who.

449
00:31:20.940 --> 00:31:24.839
So she designed the Draconian outfit, the Ark in space.

450
00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:25.920
So she had a thing for space.

451
00:31:25.980 --> 00:31:26.700
Yeah.

452
00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:27.839
Kinder.

453
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:29.400
Okay.

454
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:29.940
Kinder.

455
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:37.980
But also the entirety of Doctor Who series 6 from a Christmas carol right through to the wedding of River Songs.

456
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:38.759
Wow.

457
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.980
Which featured speed chess.

458
00:31:41.220 --> 00:31:44.039
It did be just being chess.

459
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.900
Live and have been in her contract.

460
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:46.440
Yeah.

461
00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:47.400
Yeah, yeah.

462
00:31:47.460 --> 00:31:51.420
So, yeah, she is designed at least 3 outfits.

463
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.619
If not, what, 4 outfits for deadly chess games.

464
00:31:55.680 --> 00:32:01.259
We did mention servilance outfit, and this is her only time wearing red ever.

465
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.539
And I think the outfit is magnificent.

466
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.579
I think it is one of her very best.

467
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:07.859
It is one of the full neck lizard outfits.

468
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:08.640
Yeah, wonderful.

469
00:32:08.700 --> 00:32:10.019
Yeah, from Jurassic Park.

470
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:17.640
Look, you know, if you imagine a dilophosaur, but about the size of a gerbil, that's a frill neck lizard in Australia.

471
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.400
Oh, right.

472
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:21.900
I thought they were just real.

473
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:22.740
No, no.

474
00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:24.299
They're awesome.

475
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.579
We used to have them on our $2 piece, I think.

476
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:29.579
And we don't have the ¢2 piece anymore.

477
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:42.960
And also for fans of Ultraman, you can see a very similar looking thing in the monster, girass, that's girass, which is actually just a recycled Godzilla costume painted green with a frill attached.

478
00:32:43.019 --> 00:32:43.559
Nice.

479
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.380
And Ultraman is totally a dick and rips off the frill.

480
00:32:46.500 --> 00:32:47.160
Wow.

481
00:32:47.220 --> 00:32:47.640
Yeah.

482
00:32:47.700 --> 00:32:49.200
Ultraman's an asshole.

483
00:32:50.579 --> 00:32:52.500
Just better get out there.

484
00:32:53.400 --> 00:33:00.839
Well, remember, this whole story ends with them going on a quest to find a song with a brain print on it, which I love.

485
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:06.119
Apparently, thong doesn't just have to be worn around the groin.

486
00:33:06.180 --> 00:33:06.779
It can be one.

487
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:07.559
Oh my god.

488
00:33:07.619 --> 00:33:08.519
Imagine if...

489
00:33:08.579 --> 00:33:11.700
Bruce Purchase had been wearing a thong in next week.

490
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.559
That's what you call flip flops in Australia, isn't it?

491
00:33:16.619 --> 00:33:17.819
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

492
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.759
I remember walking into a pub that said no thongs.

493
00:33:20.819 --> 00:33:24.180
And I thought, and you were wandering a thong.

494
00:33:24.180 --> 00:33:25.740
That's shit.

495
00:33:25.859 --> 00:33:27.599
And then you think, oh, no, no, it's all right.

496
00:33:27.660 --> 00:33:28.319
My shoes are fine.

497
00:33:28.380 --> 00:33:30.539
I thought is it somebody's job to check.

498
00:33:36.059 --> 00:33:38.099
Sylvia Coleridge.

499
00:33:46.019 --> 00:33:49.859
There's a nice little dialogue loop back that I noticed.

500
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:51.119
No, I could, I'm saying this.

501
00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:54.960
It could just be a reuse, but in city at the edge of forever.

502
00:33:55.019 --> 00:34:00.119
There's a moment where Villa produces the diamonds and whatnot near the end, and Avon goes, I'm impressed.

503
00:34:00.180 --> 00:34:02.940
And Villa says, wonderful, that makes it all worthwhile.

504
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:08.400
And then this one, Villa says, Avon, there are times I almost get to like you.

505
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.159
And Avon goes, well, that makes it all worthwhile.

506
00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:16.920
I figured that might be a little coming back to coming back to that.

507
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.739
If it's a Chris Boucherism.

508
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:20.519
Maybe.

509
00:34:20.579 --> 00:34:21.360
Yeah, yeah.

510
00:34:21.420 --> 00:34:28.380
This is the, so, I think I just note it down to talk about was theatricality, which we've currently touched on a lot.

511
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:33.059
So I did a thing of just listening to the audio of this while I was commuting.

512
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:39.480
And didn't miss, despite it being such a visual story, it was so much style and over the top stuff.

513
00:34:39.539 --> 00:34:42.420
Um, it's really wordy.

514
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.860
It's all about word games, which people either find tedious or amusing or maybe both.

515
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.260
Um, but and so a lot of the sets, I mean, some, we talk about things not having a 4th wall.

516
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:53.579
A lot of these sets don't have any walls.

517
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:55.199
They're almost just in the round.

518
00:34:55.260 --> 00:35:00.960
Like you just put a big round bed in the middle, plonk your characters on it and get them to spa with each other.

519
00:35:01.019 --> 00:35:03.719
And I just don't know if any other episodes done in that way.

520
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:05.760
And it surprises me that spent in foster.

521
00:35:05.820 --> 00:35:16.019
It doesn't seem, in that way, the way that it's all staged and set up feels quite, uh, I don't know if radicals will, yeah, just or just unusual, anyway, it's certainly unusual.

522
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.400
There's no corridors because there's no rooms almost.

523
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.260
You're right.

524
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.179
There are there are really only in 2 rooms.

525
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.760
And it really lets it down.

526
00:35:26.820 --> 00:35:30.059
It's like it doesn't feel like it's in a casino.

527
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:31.980
It's like not lit like one.

528
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.239
It's lit like, you know, studio 2 in Lane, you know?

529
00:35:36.300 --> 00:35:37.739
It doesn't feel like it.

530
00:35:39.179 --> 00:35:41.940
One character we haven't talked about.

531
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.059
I genuinely thought was called clever dick.

532
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:52.079
But it's it's Chevedic by everyone's favourite American in Doctor Who, Paul Grist.

533
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.739
And he's doesn't appear on location.

534
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:02.340
So he just 80 R's his lines over the car park scene.

535
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.539
So he's not even there.

536
00:36:03.659 --> 00:36:05.219
His most important scene.

537
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:06.179
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

538
00:36:06.659 --> 00:36:09.480
It was on it was filmed on his day off.

539
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.719
I love to imagine him at convention saying, no, I didn't get to go to the car park, unfortunately.

540
00:36:15.780 --> 00:36:17.639
I was devastated.

541
00:36:17.699 --> 00:36:20.039
A lot of Doctor Who people.

542
00:36:20.099 --> 00:36:22.800
Yeah, it's and it's sleep is slapdash, isn't it?

543
00:36:22.860 --> 00:36:23.460
Yeah.

544
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:28.860
And that's the thing, like, unlike Colin, I quite like Dennis Carey, whenever I see him.

545
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:33.900
But it seems like he can be sort of easily flummoxed as an actor.

546
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.500
Like, I think in Shada, Pennant Roberts for all his other failings.

547
00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:41.280
Every actor who works with him says, no, no, no, I completely understood what was going on because of Penn.

548
00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:46.320
And I can imagine Pennant Roberts explaining the, you know, unalive scenes to him and whatnot.

549
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.579
Dennis seems really kind of all at sea with this.

550
00:36:50.639 --> 00:37:06.360
He seems to pretty much get, you know, that he was some kind of surgeon, but then, you know, during the scenes with Cheney, it's like then he's not quite sure what their relationship is, like she sort of flirting with him and he's like, what, uh, who are you?

551
00:37:06.780 --> 00:37:16.260
I actually think he does really well because I do think that he brings a kind of vulnerability and maybe it is just the act of not knowing what's going on.

552
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:25.559
No, I think it's because the rest of the whole thing, I think there's definitely 2 layers to him and he's being inclined and he's being his real self too.

553
00:37:25.619 --> 00:37:32.760
Um, so the times when he's letting that mask slip, uh, which I don't I don't read as an act of being inconsistent.

554
00:37:32.820 --> 00:37:36.300
I think he is, and I get him, and in the early scenes.

555
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:44.039
I think I think I'll pick up the, he, yeah, he and Cheney do have um, a history together, a very, very recent history, but they're, they're involved.

556
00:37:44.099 --> 00:37:45.960
I mean, you know, we know that they're not just meeting there.

557
00:37:46.019 --> 00:38:13.260
Um, and we know that a lot of time has passed since the whole thing that set it in motion with the, uh, the, the crashed ship where he met, um, Travis for the 1st time, which I assume were meant to infer is Travis caused, maybe causing the crash of that ship so that he could get to Docley because he's wanting, he, Travis is getting to Docley because he knows that Blake is trying to get to Docley, isn't he?

558
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.440
That's why he wants to be his bodyguard.

559
00:38:16.500 --> 00:38:20.820
And so I figure that Travis has actually set a lot of this up in motion.

560
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:28.559
But it feels like a four-part story that's been chopped down to a Blake 7 single episode.

561
00:38:28.619 --> 00:38:30.719
I wonder if there was a version of this, it was a Doctor Who story.

562
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.219
In the in the back of Robert Holmes's mind as it was germinating.

563
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.159
Speaking of the whole a surgery thing.

564
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.440
The other thing I really like about this episode is when they're trying to attach the arm and everything.

565
00:38:43.500 --> 00:38:45.300
It's all like camera.

566
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:51.300
So you've got these like, and then, insert server lands like, insert A over B and turn like...

567
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.539
Like, well, that doesn't fucking work because they can't get it to work.

568
00:38:55.860 --> 00:38:58.260
Use Alan Key.

569
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.559
Instructions are in Swedish.

570
00:39:02.820 --> 00:39:10.079
Also, I just remembered something about that arm. you know, not only is it really dodgy when they when they pull it off, Travis at the end.

571
00:39:10.139 --> 00:39:15.659
You can visibly see his arm is going into a pocket on his...

572
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:16.679
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

573
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:18.659
You can see his other arm inside his costume.

574
00:39:18.780 --> 00:39:21.059
And it's just like, just pull the cloak back over it.

575
00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:30.000
You know, be already shooting him from an angle where if you have that cloak there, his shoulders wouldn't look any bigger because he's almost side off.

576
00:39:30.059 --> 00:39:32.280
Yeah, no, but it's just like...

577
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.559
It is that that's good enough.

578
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.559
George, that's good enough to spend and foster.

579
00:39:37.619 --> 00:39:43.079
Which is bizarre because for Doctor Who, George Spenton Foster does image of the Fendal and the Ribos operation.

580
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:48.239
And Rybos is totally studio bound, but... and good.

581
00:39:48.300 --> 00:39:55.800
And you there's not really any part of that you look at and go, that could have been much better, except, of course, for Prentice Hancock.

582
00:39:55.860 --> 00:39:57.119
Does it have more money?

583
00:39:57.179 --> 00:39:57.960
Is that the problem?

584
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:02.639
Is that we've got to do this whole thing in 50 minutes, whereas a Doctor Who story has... good point.

585
00:40:02.699 --> 00:40:02.880
Yeah.

586
00:40:02.940 --> 00:40:04.800
And this is a cheap one, isn't it?

587
00:40:04.860 --> 00:40:06.300
I mean, this is definitely not a big budget.

588
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:12.960
No, that's why you book Robert Holmes because he can write wordplay as well as as well as he can write action.

589
00:40:13.019 --> 00:40:19.679
And like, yeah, we're not we're not doing action this week or not much, apart from having Travis beaten up in a car park by someone who's off screen.

590
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:46.860
But I mean, think about killer, like killer, which is his previous story this season is so much better, and it is partly, I think, because like the setting is doable on a BBC budger, we're in another space base, but it's a space base full of people saying interesting sort of clever things are not kind of slobbering over all the lines.

591
00:40:46.980 --> 00:40:53.039
I think, you know, it's surprising how this misfires, given how good.

592
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.260
The previous one of these was.

593
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:04.500
Our friend over at Making Blake 7 recently did his analysis and information about Gambit.

594
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.480
It's Pete, by the way. you know that?

595
00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:07.679
Not many people know that.

596
00:41:07.739 --> 00:41:08.760
Is it?

597
00:41:08.820 --> 00:41:09.480
No.

598
00:41:09.539 --> 00:41:09.960
Oh.

599
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:14.159
I was going to say.

600
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:19.440
I was like, I can't remember. aren't we having him on at something?

601
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.380
He might have told you.

602
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:33.780
But something that those tweets raised was that even Bob Holmes said, you know, I sort of wrote it camp with the expectation that the director would temper it slightly.

603
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:58.199
And while I love Aubrey Woods performance, it would have been more interesting if in private, he was a little colder because you can, you can be camp and still be cold and have layers, you know, but he's exactly the same as he is with Serverland, as he is with toys, except he occasionally gets a little bit grumpy.

604
00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:07.679
And, you know, you've got toys saying, uh, we should really stop this bloke who's won 3000000 credits on the wheel and Grantor's like, no, wait until he gets to five.

605
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:11.099
I amused.

606
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.739
He's just hedonism bot all the time.

607
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:23.099
And in some way, so devastated at the end because 5000000 he's got 4000000 from Servolan for finding Travis.

608
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:28.260
So losing 5000000 isn't like, it's not going to break the bank, is it?

609
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.739
And he says earlier on that they make 4000000 credits a week.

610
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:41.579
I don't know if that's turnover on a profit, but even so, it's not like, it's not going to absolutely, you know, it hasn't broken the bank, presumably. just they've just had a bad week.

611
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.039
Mark, do you work at that building society by each other?

612
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.539
Yeah.

613
00:42:45.539 --> 00:42:52.679
I just mean, if you hadn't had the 1000000 quotes of several, 5000000 would have been more than a week.

614
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.219
It could be the principle, maybe.

615
00:42:56.280 --> 00:43:00.179
Sylvia Coleridge's leotards cost much more than you might.

616
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.940
They should have made a much bigger amount.

617
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:08.639
When they've talked about different amounts all the way through the episode is what I mean, if they'd made it like 20000000, right?

618
00:43:08.699 --> 00:43:11.940
That is that justifies his devastated reaction at the end.

619
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.119
There's massive inflation, isn't there?

620
00:43:15.179 --> 00:43:21.059
Maybe it's after the space war at the end of this thing, but we start throwing 1000000000s around in sort of series D, I think.

621
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.159
Yeah, yeah.

622
00:43:23.219 --> 00:43:23.940
Yeah.

623
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.460
I guess that's why 10 credit touch is such an insult.

624
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:27.900
I really got much at all.

625
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:32.579
A 1000 credit touch.

626
00:43:40.380 --> 00:43:51.480
That sort of leads to what I find one of the more interesting things about the end of this episode in that, you know, aside from the people who have been blown up playing speed chess and um, poor grist.

627
00:43:51.539 --> 00:43:53.699
I don't think anyone else dies.

628
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.880
Oh, um, Val Taran dies, of course.

629
00:43:56.940 --> 00:44:06.719
Um, But, you know, you would expect Servoland to burst into um, Crantor's chambers at the end and gun them both down.

630
00:44:06.780 --> 00:44:08.880
Yeah, see, that could have been fun.

631
00:44:08.940 --> 00:44:09.960
Why would we do that?

632
00:44:10.019 --> 00:44:12.360
But instead, we did that every week.

633
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.539
Instead, turboland just seems to go at the end.

634
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:16.320
Ah, bugger.

635
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.199
Spoiled again.

636
00:44:20.579 --> 00:44:29.699
But we'll get to see her being more of a fish out of water in terms of stylistics next week down on Goth, which is much less to her aesthetic.

637
00:44:29.820 --> 00:44:31.860
Well, she bought something warmer to wear as well.

638
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:33.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

639
00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:36.719
I wonder if she travels with all the, yes, she mustn't.

640
00:44:36.780 --> 00:44:37.440
Of course she cannot.

641
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.239
I thought the other federation should be possible.

642
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.099
You'd tell she arrived on Freedom City.

643
00:44:44.099 --> 00:44:46.139
I was like, ah, you've dressed for Mardi Gras.

644
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:47.699
Mardi Gras.

645
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.260
That's Mardi Gras.

646
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:50.159
It's Tuesday.

647
00:44:50.219 --> 00:44:51.659
That's why I'm wearing this.

648
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.559
See, yeah, the problem next week is going to be, Serverland's going to go to Goth.

649
00:44:55.619 --> 00:44:59.940
She's heard that the brain print is on a thong and she's like, well, I need to bring something to barter with.

650
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.980
And so she's got a whole box of underwear.

651
00:45:02.460 --> 00:45:05.159
And she's like, shit.

652
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.000
So how does he send again?

653
00:45:09.059 --> 00:45:10.139
Oh my god.

654
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:10.559
Yeah.

655
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.179
Pay attention, they think.

656
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.179
It's another crap joke, isn't it?

657
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.280
It is kind of like another crap joke.

658
00:45:20.340 --> 00:45:25.800
We don't quite all sit around laughing, but we do have an attempted comedy beat, I guess.

659
00:45:25.860 --> 00:45:28.800
Yes, but in this case, something funny has actually happened.

660
00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:35.219
Avon and Villa have got away with their little side plot escapade rather than, yeah, oh, well, yeah, everybody's dead.

661
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:36.900
Yeah, get back to work.

662
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.139
It's just how it sometimes is landed.

663
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.760
But shouldn't we have seen Blake's reaction to Aurak suddenly returning to normal size?

664
00:45:44.820 --> 00:45:53.219
That's when the credits roll, you know, that you, like, there's a whole 10 minute dream of him going, what?

665
00:45:56.579 --> 00:46:00.960
Blake, Blake is even posher than usual this week.

666
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:10.440
And I want to make special mention of his pronunciation of the word merciful, which I just think is, I don't know, particularly merciful.

667
00:46:10.500 --> 00:46:12.960
That's probably how liberal Democrats say it, right?

668
00:46:16.139 --> 00:46:19.619
I kind of I kind of wish Jenna just gone.

669
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:21.059
No, I'm going to shoot him.

670
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:31.739
Which is funny because, you know, Jenna doesn't have any particular beef with Travis.

671
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:36.360
Yeah, yeah, you know, um, whereas, you know, Blake specifically does.

672
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:45.000
And, but it's just, it's just funny, therefore, that Jenna's like, I'm going to shoot this guy who keeps getting us into trouble and Blake's like, nah.

673
00:46:45.059 --> 00:46:47.280
No, no.

674
00:46:47.340 --> 00:46:49.559
Blake Blake just wants to get a restraining order on the guy.

675
00:46:49.619 --> 00:46:52.320
He's just he's a stalker of everything.

676
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.840
He's just avloying me by turning around everywhere.

677
00:46:54.900 --> 00:46:59.280
I think that he thinks that being Brian Croucher is its own punishment.

678
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.260
I don't know if it's a coincidence that I will survive is still at number one in the pop charts.

679
00:47:07.980 --> 00:47:10.679
That's a good...

680
00:47:10.739 --> 00:47:28.380
I wonder if Jacqueline Pierce was channelling anything because this was broadcast the same week that Margaret Thatcher laid down the no-confidence vote that happened a couple of days later that brought down the Labour government and ushered in her ability to punish the vulpine degenerates and pestilential rounds of the UK.

681
00:47:28.739 --> 00:47:32.219
Sometimes, sometimes fact and fiction rhyme.

682
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.820
Yeah, we could have history repeated itself, but in the reverse.

683
00:47:37.019 --> 00:47:37.739
Yeah.

684
00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:49.980
So with that, we will head maybe back towards a bit more normality in our next episode, maybe not, as we head to the planet Goth next time.

685
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:51.480
We hope you'll be joining us then.

686
00:47:51.539 --> 00:47:53.880
From now, from all of us, we'll just say goodbye.

687
00:47:53.940 --> 00:47:54.539
Goodbye.

688
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:55.320
Goodbye.

689
00:47:55.380 --> 00:47:56.280
Goodbye.

690
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:56.460
Goodbye.

691
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:58.619
Anyone's in my thong?

692
00:48:02.099 --> 00:48:04.260
Switching to manual.

693
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:06.300
Maximum power on all drives.

694
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:11.219
Maximum power.

695
00:48:18.420 --> 00:48:21.840
Flashing forward to the space year 2022.

696
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:29.460
As we record, Star Trek Discovery has just returned for the last half of its 4th series.

697
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.079
God, does it have to?

698
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:33.360
So good, Colin.

699
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:35.880
And this season isn't.

700
00:48:35.940 --> 00:48:36.539
Sorry, Brendan.

701
00:48:37.380 --> 00:48:42.780
Now, am I going to am I spoiling last week's episode for anyone who wants to watch it?

702
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:44.460
They have a casino planet.

703
00:48:44.579 --> 00:48:45.239
Yeah.

704
00:48:45.300 --> 00:48:46.739
Pretty much.

705
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:48.179
They go to a casino planet.

706
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:54.000
And 1st of all, there's this hustling to get money with a physical contest in a boxing ring.

707
00:48:54.059 --> 00:48:54.480
Yeah.

708
00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:06.480
And then there is this high stakes poker game to get the magical McGuffin of the week. and they've gone they've gone here searching for a missing scientist.

709
00:49:06.539 --> 00:49:07.619
Awesome.

710
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.659
There's atmosphere.

711
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:10.679
It's incredible.

712
00:49:10.739 --> 00:49:11.280
It looks great.

713
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:13.320
There's atmosphere, there's comedy.

714
00:49:13.500 --> 00:49:18.360
There is oho totally kicking the shit out of a really hot guy.

715
00:49:18.539 --> 00:49:20.519
He is really hot.

716
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:21.719
Yeah, ridiculous.

717
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.019
Yeah. than Travis?

718
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.599
Even hotter than Dennis Carey.

719
00:49:27.659 --> 00:49:30.300
Even hotter than Stephen Grief Travis.

720
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:30.719
Yeah.

721
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.300
Even hotter than Stephen O'Challa keep his top on this.

722
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:36.900
Unfortunately, unfortunately, I agree.

723
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:45.239
But he does gaze longingly at Sonika Martin Green for long periods of time and who can blame him?

724
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:45.599
Really?

725
00:49:45.659 --> 00:49:46.199
I do too.

726
00:49:46.260 --> 00:49:49.800
I have done that and she's held my hand and I have melted completely.

727
00:49:49.860 --> 00:49:52.199
Oh, the other thing about this is beautiful.

728
00:49:52.260 --> 00:50:00.480
She is fantastic in every way, especially her sort of whispering emotional acting, it's like we're going to get out of the ship.

729
00:50:00.539 --> 00:50:05.699
I'm going to find you and it's going to be, she does this all the time in every mind she delivers. really, really intense and shouting.

730
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:07.619
Yeah, she's great.

731
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.380
So yeah, she's Sylvia Colebridge, I'm saying.

732
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:11.519
Okay.

733
00:50:12.300 --> 00:50:15.780
Do we sound from this one, is it?

734
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:19.260
Do you talk first?

735
00:50:19.260 --> 00:50:19.920
Do I talk first?

736
00:50:19.980 --> 00:50:24.840
The last Jedi, aren't they going to go to get a scientist from a casino as well?

737
00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:32.460
Is that, um, is this another inspiration that sprang from the uh, the well of...

738
00:50:32.460 --> 00:50:34.019
And then they do the...

739
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.059
Yeah, and then they do the horse race bit.

740
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.039
Yeah.

741
00:50:38.099 --> 00:50:42.239
They're going to get, um, what a colon, aren't they?

742
00:50:42.300 --> 00:50:43.800
The guy from license to kill.

743
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:46.860
No, I know what you mean.

744
00:50:47.099 --> 00:50:49.440
Benicio del Toro.

745
00:50:49.500 --> 00:50:50.039
That's it.

746
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:51.539
The guy from Sicario.

747
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.840
Yeah, see a scientist, they're going to try and get from a casino.

748
00:50:54.900 --> 00:50:57.480
Maybe it's a more tenuous inspiration.

749
00:50:57.539 --> 00:50:59.519
You should do it again.

750
00:50:59.579 --> 00:51:03.300
That's just about casino scenes in science picture.

751
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:13.619
Battlestar Galactica, the Battlestar Galactica, where all their planets blow up and then they go to a casino where there's a lounge singer with 4 mounds.

752
00:51:15.780 --> 00:51:18.960
That's the next generation one as well, isn't there?

753
00:51:19.019 --> 00:51:20.039
Yeah, the Royale.

754
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:20.460
Season two.

755
00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:21.000
Series two.

756
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:21.719
Yeah, yeah.

757
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:22.199
Yeah, yeah.

758
00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:28.739
And and Gambit, where Riker totally flirts with the forehanded organ player.

759
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.659
And that's not a euphemism.

760
00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:42.780
And come to think of it, Travis's plan, you know, to crash the ship he's on in order to need surgery from this bloke to work his way into his trust to trap Blake.

761
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:56.820
It's kind of like that summer of 2012 where 3 major franchise movies hinged on the fact that the villain wanted to get caught to get inside the institution, which of and including the Bond film.

762
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:57.360
Yep.

763
00:51:57.420 --> 00:51:58.679
So I'm talking Skyfall.

764
00:51:58.739 --> 00:52:04.500
I'm talking the Avengers and I am talking runny egg cumberbond in Star Trek into darkness.

765
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:05.880
Oh my god.

766
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:07.679
You see?

767
00:52:07.739 --> 00:52:10.380
And we've got gambit to thank for all of it.

768
00:52:10.739 --> 00:52:13.800
Thank you very much for listening. and good.

769
00:52:14.820 --> 00:52:17.400
It minced so they could run.

770
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.739
Minced words and I like...

771
00:52:26.940 --> 00:52:36.119
It's very, I mean, in a way, it's a remake of mission to the unknown, but with chess and a casino instead of Daleks and monsters in a forest.

772
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.960
When you think about it.