WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 21:54:40 1 00:00:03.660 --> 00:00:06.360 Maximal power. 2 00:00:12.419 --> 00:00:20.219 Welcome back to Maximum Power, the podcast that is putting you on trial, and your oneness may be absorbed. 3 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:24.120 This week, we are discussing trial. 4 00:00:24.179 --> 00:00:27.660 Yeah, who knew a clue was that you put a clue in that intro, didn't you? 5 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:29.160 I did. 6 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.640 I'm making this up on the spot, you could tell. 7 00:00:32.700 --> 00:00:34.619 Anyway, I'm psy. 8 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:35.579 I'm Colin. 9 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:37.500 I'm Paul and I'm Pete. 10 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:49.979 And we're here to discuss the aftermath of Gan's death in Chris Boucher's 3rd script for the 2nd series of Blake 7, or series B, as I should correctly call it. 11 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:51.060 Trial. 12 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:54.000 So, Paul, welcome to the podcast. 13 00:00:54.060 --> 00:00:56.219 What do you think of trial? 14 00:00:56.460 --> 00:01:01.079 Personally, I think this is one of the best episodes of Blake Seven. 15 00:01:01.140 --> 00:01:03.299 It's certainly one of my favourites. 16 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:04.319 I think. 17 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:13.859 It sets up the rest of the season, then... follows. 18 00:01:13.859 --> 00:01:17.219 That is, you know, will be for future episodes. 19 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:18.359 But yes, it's one of my favourites. 20 00:01:18.420 --> 00:01:20.400 Oh, what about you, Pete? 21 00:01:20.459 --> 00:01:22.260 Yeah, it's really good. 22 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:31.379 I, I, it has its peculiarities, um, to put it mildly, and that's what you want from late seven, you know, just, don't just want it to just trundle out straightforwardly. 23 00:01:31.500 --> 00:01:40.859 And it's A plot and it's B plot, seem extremely distant, physically, but obviously thematically, I see what's happening here. 24 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:42.420 There's a trial and a trial. 25 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:44.159 There's more than one type of trial. 26 00:01:44.219 --> 00:01:51.420 Uh, so, yeah, I think this, whoever this um, Chris Boucher is, I think you could go a long way in script, right? 27 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:53.219 about time they gave him a go to write, probably. 28 00:01:53.280 --> 00:02:01.680 Although it's a bit a non-terri nation episode, and straight away, we're down on a planet with alien plants squirting stuff in your face and whatnot. 29 00:02:01.739 --> 00:02:06.299 So it's clearly still playing true to Terry Nation's vision of the universe. 30 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:14.580 No, it's great to be back on Planet of the Daleks, or Planet Genesis, from Star Trek 3, really is. 31 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:22.680 Well, technically, we're on, um, we're in the Matrix, because it's the same location as used in the deadly assassin. 32 00:02:22.740 --> 00:02:24.900 Interestingly, I used to work there. 33 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.780 So my very 1st in the matrix. 34 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:36.120 Yeah, my very 1st job. was at the Royal Alexandra and Albert school, which is where this, this, the location stuff's filmed. 35 00:02:36.180 --> 00:02:38.280 And they have a wonderful grounds. 36 00:02:38.340 --> 00:02:40.500 It's a it's a boarding school. 37 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:53.159 And they have a fantastic park with a Japanese garden, which I think they use some of it here, and a lake, which they don't use, but which is used in deadly assassin. 38 00:02:53.219 --> 00:02:57.659 Sorry, I was just thinking of the Japanese garden from police squad, I'm sorry. 39 00:03:00.300 --> 00:03:01.680 Cool. 40 00:03:01.740 --> 00:03:06.539 But so when you were there, did you hunger or, you know, did you sort of forage in the ground? 41 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.379 I was always concerned for my oneness, I have to say. 42 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:13.560 Well, those BBC one items are atrocious. 43 00:03:13.620 --> 00:03:16.379 It's no wonder that everyone is very concerned about. 44 00:03:16.500 --> 00:03:19.199 Brazil in particular is very concerned about them and who can blame them. 45 00:03:26.699 --> 00:03:30.780 So, yes, let's talk about zill first, shall we? 46 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.080 Because it's one of the very rare aliens in Blake 7. 47 00:03:34.139 --> 00:03:36.659 And I think she's rather cool. 48 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:37.800 I really like her. 49 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:41.340 She moves very well and is very interesting. 50 00:03:41.580 --> 00:03:43.259 Yeah, she is. 51 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:50.639 I like the way she, um, learns Blake, learns English in, you know, maybe 10 seconds or something. 52 00:03:50.699 --> 00:03:56.580 She's sort of listening to a bit and suddenly has all the vocabulary, but the way she plays it, sort of trying to get words out is kind of nice. 53 00:03:56.939 --> 00:04:13.919 And it is quite, it's an odd sort of performance and it's an odd kind of character, um, to, you know, trying to get across to Blake that, you know, you are important and, you know, I sort of thought I was protecting you because I thought you were an egg or something. 54 00:04:13.979 --> 00:04:15.960 It gets a bit trippy. 55 00:04:16.019 --> 00:04:16.439 Okay. 56 00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:23.100 I do wonder what her agent, what she thought when her agent phoned her up with this job. 57 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:31.079 By the way, you're going to be in like a weird little leo dart and have to sort of move about sticking your tongue out all the time. 58 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:35.639 Yeah, you're basically a flea who helps someone get up with the fact that he's killed one of his friends. 59 00:04:35.699 --> 00:04:40.019 Can you just could have come bring that a place of realness to that part, please, love? 60 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:40.800 Yeah. 61 00:04:40.860 --> 00:04:45.600 She, um, and it's one of his performances that, like, I mean, it's not a Star Trek performance. 62 00:04:45.660 --> 00:04:49.079 It's not a cinematic universe performance of any kind, is it? 63 00:04:49.139 --> 00:05:05.339 It's the sort of thing you'd be much more likely to see in a kid's show, because it's really, but it's, but it's, and I'm say that in a good way, because it's, it's, it's just really honest, and like, imagine if somebody was, or just sort of lizardy type flea thing. 64 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:08.939 Um, but how would that kind of creature react? 65 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:15.899 And yeah, it's, people often always use theatrical in a, as if it's actually put down, but I don't think it is at all in some instances. 66 00:05:15.899 --> 00:05:22.139 And with this, she's just acting her flipping green socks off to, to be that creature. 67 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:32.519 Yeah, she's making her really alien and the way she moves and uh, talks is just really great. 68 00:05:32.579 --> 00:05:34.319 I really like her. 69 00:05:34.379 --> 00:05:42.180 So, yeah, it's probably better than the moon discs, which is our other alien that we've encountered so far this season. so. 70 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:48.240 I think as well, that her storyline is quite interesting. 71 00:05:48.540 --> 00:05:51.540 Because obviously I guess we'll get onto this. 72 00:05:51.660 --> 00:06:04.860 Obviously, it's very much, um, it's thematically linked to, to what's going on with Blake and Travis. around this idea of a sort of family. 73 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:22.439 So whereas Travis is being rejected by his family, and Blake is choosing to run away from his family, Zeal literally cannot have a family, you know, because if they, if too many of them get together, then they get absorbed by the planet. 74 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:26.040 And so she literally has to be on her own to survive. 75 00:06:26.100 --> 00:06:30.779 And so that's quite an interesting contrast to the other two. 76 00:06:32.220 --> 00:06:34.680 It's a lot in this episode, isn't there? 77 00:06:34.740 --> 00:06:51.240 Yeah, and I, when I started watching it, at 1st I was thinking, I mean, I was thinking, wouldn't it be better if Blake had actually had a mission to go on, a thing to do, but then, as it progresses, it starts to thinking, no, because, yeah, exactly the point is he doesn't. 78 00:06:51.300 --> 00:06:56.220 The point is, I think, well, you know, the mission is the women in leotards that you meet along the way. 79 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:02.939 But that it's, I mean, I'm the oneness, and is he, and finding that thing of, am I worth coming back to? 80 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:19.920 I love the, um, the, the music, but just before we, because well, we're still on the end of the jungle, the the music down there, the bongos, the sinister bongos that Dudley's everyone reaches for sometimes, uh, I think that harks back to um, Planet of the Apes soundtrack or, well, 60s genre films in general. 81 00:07:19.980 --> 00:07:22.379 I think you get quite a lot of that, but that really really tense. 82 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:33.300 And the, yeah, the fact that they haven't given him a specific quest that he's got to do is an interesting choice because it just puts basically different to a typical episode. 83 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:50.040 Yeah, I like the fact that he's going down to think about what's happened and sort himself out, and then he gets embroiled in this adventure, that he's not expecting, that actually sorts him out better than him just wallowing in self-pity would have done. 84 00:07:50.100 --> 00:07:52.439 Is it is it convincing though? 85 00:07:52.500 --> 00:07:54.060 I... 86 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.019 He just, he doesn't seem upset, really. 87 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:04.079 He's just like, anyway, I'm just popping down to this planet. you know, I don't need a gun. 88 00:08:04.139 --> 00:08:05.220 Rack, would you mind? 89 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:06.839 I thought he was Tetchy. 90 00:08:06.899 --> 00:08:09.839 I wrote down Blake is being tetchy towards... 91 00:08:09.899 --> 00:08:11.639 Tetchy is as hard as it gets. 92 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:18.600 I wrote Blake is a whiny little child in this running away from his responsibilities. 93 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.620 And I think I think to me, that's how he always comes across. 94 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:24.959 Like, he's making this all about him. 95 00:08:25.019 --> 00:08:29.939 Which I think is an interesting side of Blake's character. 96 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.159 And everyone's making the most of it, right? 97 00:08:32.220 --> 00:08:34.620 Yeah. absolutely every opportunity. 98 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:40.559 Oh, I just love the way he just turns around to him at one point and just says, well, at least I don't get them killed. 99 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.860 Just, yeah, just rub it in, Abel. 100 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:44.220 Go on. 101 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:46.320 Every line is everything out. 102 00:08:46.379 --> 00:08:47.879 Avon doing it. 103 00:08:47.940 --> 00:08:52.860 He's not doing any plot up there. but he's but he's just absolutely owning it and yeah. 104 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.200 And he makes that point really, really clearly. 105 00:08:55.259 --> 00:08:58.379 It's like to distance him from being one of Blake's followers. 106 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:00.659 At least your other 3 are still around. 107 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.360 But if you do one more fuck up, they're out of here. 108 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:07.799 Yeah, and he's clearly the least upset about Gand. 109 00:09:07.860 --> 00:09:10.080 There's a bit where Villa said, I wish Gan was here. 110 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.720 And and Avon replied pretty much, well. 111 00:09:12.779 --> 00:09:13.799 That useless... 112 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:17.039 I'm bleeping my phone. 113 00:09:17.100 --> 00:09:21.000 Well, we are introduced to WWGD this episode. 114 00:09:21.059 --> 00:09:25.500 It really is that it's like, I wonder what Gam would do if he were here. 115 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:27.659 Well, he'd say, is there a message? 116 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:28.200 Would he? 117 00:09:28.259 --> 00:09:29.820 Okay, maybe he would. 118 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:31.500 Well, I'm sure he probably wouldn't. 119 00:09:31.500 --> 00:09:33.360 It wouldn't have been given the dialogue, exactly. 120 00:09:33.419 --> 00:09:41.759 We've got the 2 biggest supercomputers in the galaxy and they've switched off notifications on both of them. in your inbox. 121 00:09:41.820 --> 00:09:44.279 And that message that Blake Blake gives. 122 00:09:44.340 --> 00:09:52.980 It's strange the way he talks, he says, you, if I see you there, it really sounds like he's using the singular U. like there's a there's a way that he phrases something. 123 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:57.539 But I guess that's because we're meant to think, you know, he doesn't know who's actually going to put it on. 124 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:03.059 Um, yeah, it's a, it's an odd choice, but it's a, it's a dramatic choice. 125 00:10:03.299 --> 00:10:09.480 Yeah, and the characterisation of Blake is really carrying on through what we've seen in the series so far. 126 00:10:09.539 --> 00:10:15.000 So we've seen him um being very single-minded against the Pterra Nostra. 127 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:24.480 And then last week in pressure point, we've seen it be all about him and not even caring what everyone else thinks. 128 00:10:24.539 --> 00:10:26.639 So it is fairly consistent. 129 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:33.120 And he does seem to snap out of it a little when he comes back to the liberator at the end of the episode. 130 00:10:33.179 --> 00:10:45.120 He's a bit more series A Blake, but only a little bit. have to do his face at the end because it's, you know, it's like last week's where everyone's happy at the end. 131 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:52.860 The thing about the other thing about the message is that you can tell Avon is immediately pissed off that Blake is leaving such a good message. 132 00:10:52.919 --> 00:11:01.440 You know, it's like, well, glad you guys managed to, you know, switch your phone on and play this message after all or wasn't sure if you would. 133 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:07.679 And then, you know, Avon's advantage as to like, oh, fuck, he is coming back after all. 134 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:10.440 Oh, God, they all, they all do like him. 135 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:11.759 And it's like, you bought that? 136 00:11:11.820 --> 00:11:12.179 Did you? 137 00:11:12.299 --> 00:11:14.100 or you swallowed that villa or something like that? 138 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:22.740 So it's just, it's some terrific, you know, Baucherian, copyright, Nathan, um, dialogue going on there. 139 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:27.179 I think it's the best Avon dialogue and the best sort of Avon performance so far. 140 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:46.259 There's an interesting bit with Jenna, as well, where she always seems to kind of strop out of the flight deck, because Blake didn't tell her or something, I presume. 141 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:49.500 I think that's an interesting little moment. 142 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:51.600 Yeah, because she says, doesn't she? 143 00:11:51.659 --> 00:11:54.299 She says, I don't trust unless I'm trusted in return. 144 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:54.720 Yeah. 145 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:02.519 So it feels like she should be siding with Blake, but because he hasn't confided in her, she is not, she's going to have to think about this. 146 00:12:02.580 --> 00:12:10.080 And when Avon suggests they run off and she flounces off the flight deck because of that, she's not having it. 147 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:15.179 She's still shocked that he would dare to use a secret classification code. 148 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:17.519 How could he possibly do that? 149 00:12:19.139 --> 00:12:23.759 And she gets that great exchange with Avon where she says, what would you know about guilt? 150 00:12:23.820 --> 00:12:25.980 And he sits there smirking, says only what I've read. 151 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:27.360 Yeah. 152 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:37.320 Again, when they're all dealing with their guilt and their grief, he can't resist every joke about how clever and astute and cool and cold he is. 153 00:12:37.379 --> 00:12:41.220 You also get, and the fantastic line later on when they talk about there being a flood. 154 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:46.379 The half the planet is in danger of flooding, and he gets to say, let's hope Blake's on higher ground. 155 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:51.240 Like, you sort of turn to the camera and go, and that's another double meaning for you. 156 00:12:51.299 --> 00:12:53.399 Oh, I can do that at all. 157 00:12:53.460 --> 00:12:54.899 No, that yeah. 158 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:58.320 But this is why we bring people. 159 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:06.600 Even in her most, and like you said, Jenna's the one, she's like his most faithful disciple really, isn't she? 160 00:13:06.659 --> 00:13:08.399 If we want to go down that route. 161 00:13:08.460 --> 00:13:14.159 She's the one who trusted him 1st and she's the one who trusts him most sincerely, probably. 162 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:21.120 And even under all this stress, she still uses the word whom correctly at one point, which I don't think that shows the top. 163 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:22.620 I'm taught like a pirate date. 164 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:23.879 She taught like a space pirate day. 165 00:13:23.940 --> 00:13:27.600 It's Jenna, you're conjugating your sentence is quite assiduously. 166 00:13:27.659 --> 00:13:30.000 And that's the other reason we bring Pete on. 167 00:13:31.620 --> 00:13:33.899 I'm cheaper than Nathan. 168 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:40.139 I have a question. 169 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:47.580 Do we spend more time in this episode talking about how sad we are that Gan is no longer with us? 170 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:55.259 Or is more time spent talking in time flight talking about that Adric is no longer with us? 171 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:57.720 Which of these is the most impactful? 172 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:01.139 I think we've got more about Gan here? 173 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:11.039 Although actually it's more about the after effect and the effect it's had on their legends than actual the effect of Gan's death, isn't it? 174 00:14:11.100 --> 00:14:16.860 So there's the great exchange where Blake says every bounty hunter will now know that we are fallible. 175 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:17.399 Yeah. 176 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:24.779 And, um, that they've come to believe in their invulnerability, and then suddenly that's taken away from them. 177 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:32.820 So is it too late to stop buying into that or do they need to just reestablish that, which is the route that they go down? 178 00:14:32.940 --> 00:14:38.100 Yeah, because they're not just going to cruise around the universe doing occasional heists and everybody's fine. 179 00:14:38.340 --> 00:14:43.200 And like, yeah, you wouldn't get a death of a character in Star Trek in those days. 180 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:45.179 And it was a huge thing when they did it with Tasha Yar. 181 00:14:45.299 --> 00:14:57.120 I don't know if they could do an episode in series D, yesterday's Liberator, where they come back and be, again from a parallel universe who hadn't pointlessly held open a door that was closing very slowly. 182 00:14:57.539 --> 00:14:59.879 They could have all just run through. 183 00:14:59.940 --> 00:15:02.519 Everything is very, very different. 184 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:11.100 And he's never, you know, although they do address it in this episode and it's well done, his name is never, ever mentioned again in Blake 7. 185 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:12.480 That's it. 186 00:15:12.539 --> 00:15:12.899 Yeah. 187 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:16.799 Well, there we go. 188 00:15:16.860 --> 00:15:19.740 That's a good fact, which I read somewhere, and if it's wrong, it's not my fault. 189 00:15:21.539 --> 00:15:44.399 So, I mean, as well as um, Blake and his crew dealing with the aftermath of pressure point, um, Servlan and Travis are also dealing with this, and, um, uh, Servlan is holding Travis to her promise of burying him, um, after after the most wonderful slap last week. 190 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:52.620 So we've got this, the actual trial, not the metaphorical trial of Blake, the actual actual trial of Travis. 191 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:54.299 Fuckload of characters in this. 192 00:15:54.419 --> 00:15:56.580 There really is, isn't there? 193 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:57.840 There's a lot of characters. 194 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:06.299 Senator Ron Seal, Senator Exposition, who are here to talk about the BBC canteen. 195 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:08.940 I'm sorry, Space Command canteen. 196 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:09.840 Oh, that's great. 197 00:16:09.899 --> 00:16:12.000 I should have brought my... shall we die? 198 00:16:13.740 --> 00:16:18.059 But they're back from Siclocate Destroy, which is brilliant. 199 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:18.539 Yes. 200 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.120 And they do a similar role in this, don't they? 201 00:16:21.179 --> 00:16:24.299 They're that sort of Greek chorus. sort of role. 202 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:25.620 That's right. 203 00:16:25.980 --> 00:16:28.139 I like the guards as well. 204 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.419 Oh, Trooper Park. 205 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:32.460 Trooper and Trooper... 206 00:16:32.460 --> 00:16:33.960 Exposition... 207 00:16:34.019 --> 00:16:43.799 Is it only me that thinks of ABBA every time someone says super. what was the number one this week? 208 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:45.840 Still blondie. 209 00:16:45.899 --> 00:16:47.820 Aver or not number one this week. 210 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:49.200 We were a little bit out of things. 211 00:16:49.259 --> 00:16:52.379 Yeah, this would be a perfect time for Super Trooper to have come along. 212 00:16:53.820 --> 00:16:58.740 But it's the 1st Federation guards we've seen without the helmets on. 213 00:16:58.980 --> 00:17:01.500 So can they now shoot straight? 214 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:03.059 They don't really get a chance, do they? 215 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.559 Well, I love the, I love the thing of, ah, welcome, yes. 216 00:17:07.619 --> 00:17:08.700 No, before you can enter the courtroom. 217 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:15.240 You have to speak into this exposition machine, which will just confirm who you are, while you're here and whether you're trustworthy or not. 218 00:17:15.299 --> 00:17:17.039 And one of the guards is Northern, isn't he? 219 00:17:17.099 --> 00:17:20.880 Um, uh, Kevin Lloyd from um, the Bill, from the Bill. 220 00:17:20.940 --> 00:17:22.079 Well, later, obviously. 221 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:24.599 And it's on you. 222 00:17:24.660 --> 00:17:25.079 I don't know. 223 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:31.079 It's always nice to hear non-RP accents in space this far back in time. 224 00:17:31.619 --> 00:17:51.420 Yeah, and that's a very Chris Boucher opening with um, 2 of the lesser characters talking about how boring their jobs are and how awful it is working um, and doing it is something he'll come back to in rumours of death next year where you've got the 2 commanders talking. 225 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:55.740 And yeah, it's it's just, it just makes it seem like a real place, I think. 226 00:17:59.579 --> 00:18:06.900 So I was just going to say, I do like the um, guard that uh, escorts Travis into the courtroom. 227 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:11.759 I think he's super superbly going for it, isn't he? 228 00:18:11.819 --> 00:18:15.779 He's got his couple of lines and he's he's given it everything. 229 00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:18.839 But he's not an escort. 230 00:18:19.140 --> 00:18:25.079 Has he been, is, are we meant to think that he grew up at the same, in the same place as, um, as, as Travis? 231 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:28.619 and that's why he's sort of got a similar, slightly strangled shot me out? 232 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:33.299 The whole battalion of them. 233 00:18:34.140 --> 00:18:39.779 But we do get Fred Elliott in his 1st role in Blake 7. 234 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:41.880 What's his, what's the guy's name? 235 00:18:41.940 --> 00:18:43.200 can't remember John Savaden. 236 00:18:43.259 --> 00:18:44.099 John Savadon? 237 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:44.400 Yeah. 238 00:18:44.460 --> 00:18:46.259 That's old star killer. 239 00:18:46.380 --> 00:18:50.759 Star Killer who just like seems quite nice. sort of ordinary kind of bloke, really. 240 00:18:50.819 --> 00:18:51.779 Not really a star. 241 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:56.819 Yeah, he's quite restrained compared to his later appearance in the show, isn't he? 242 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:57.900 I can't wait to see that. 243 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:05.579 Okay But it's odd. 244 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:15.299 It goes back and it starts doing a little bit of world building again that we did in the way back where you've kind of got kind of like a bit of a knockoff justice machine. 245 00:19:15.299 --> 00:19:25.440 Because in the last justice machine, it was like, here, you know, here's your glass tap from John Lewis, you know, put that in your side, put yours on that side. 246 00:19:25.500 --> 00:19:26.160 We've decided. 247 00:19:26.220 --> 00:19:30.480 And now it's like, well, give it to the prosecution, but you can still speak, but save your declaration to the end. 248 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:38.220 And you know, it's still all decided and then not quite sure why they've gone... 249 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:40.500 Well, of course, it's a spectacle, isn't it? 250 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:48.900 although only the person that's really supposed to be watching it is Serviland secretly, but I surely they just have the justice computer. 251 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:52.559 I think it's because they're on a space station and the Wi-Fi is no good. 252 00:19:53.099 --> 00:19:54.960 Space Wi-Fi. 253 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:59.880 People have got sick of machines taking over all their jobs. 254 00:20:00.900 --> 00:20:03.480 Oh, less about Amazon, please. 255 00:20:03.779 --> 00:20:06.660 Maybe there's been a kickback from the judiciary. 256 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:12.599 Well, speaking of which, frog Callie's out of a job, isn't she, now, that Aurac can operate the teleporter? 257 00:20:12.660 --> 00:20:14.880 That's like one thing. 258 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.339 I'll be on strike if I was you, Kelly. 259 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:20.400 Yeah, it is the 70s. 260 00:20:20.460 --> 00:20:21.720 Can you on strike? 261 00:20:21.779 --> 00:20:22.019 Yes. 262 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:26.220 No, who haven't we mentioned so far? 263 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.539 Well, Major Farnia. we're getting closer. 264 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:31.559 Get it closer. 265 00:20:31.619 --> 00:20:34.019 Hasn't she got a wonderful accent? 266 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:41.640 It's slightly sort of Swiss or posh ink, half English, half you're sounding a bit like, um, uh, breakfast at Tiffany's. 267 00:20:41.700 --> 00:20:44.220 Catherine Hepburn hint to it, I thought. 268 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:53.940 Well, she does succeed in giving par what looks like a bottle of aftershave as just to get Travis on side. 269 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:59.579 And isn't Travis, the like the stingiest pot shop poorer? 270 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:02.099 It's not giving much to see. 271 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:04.079 It's not Benolin, you know? 272 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:08.099 No, it is good stuff. is good stuff. 273 00:21:09.059 --> 00:21:15.720 And the scenes between Major Valia and Servolan are just great. 274 00:21:15.779 --> 00:21:21.599 They are those 2 actors are just playing with each other and the cold cat and mouse thing. 275 00:21:21.660 --> 00:21:32.279 And Servlan is just so good with the, um, she says, uh, as if he were drugged and suddenly goes, of course not, and risk a mistrial, it's like, yeah, as if I, as if I would have drugged him. 276 00:21:32.339 --> 00:21:35.339 Oh, I mean, uh, oh, as if I thought about drugging. 277 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:41.940 And the obvious little slips that she gets to give into the fact that she's clearly watching the whole thing anyway. 278 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.940 Oh, the Guard Commander's report. 279 00:21:44.940 --> 00:21:46.859 Yeah, the room next door. 280 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:48.480 She probably only just got a little... 281 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:49.799 She probably got a little hatch. 282 00:21:49.859 --> 00:21:51.539 She just drilled a hole in it. 283 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:57.599 Well, that's why the justice computer's not working then because she's using all the Wi-Fi to stream the video. 284 00:21:58.619 --> 00:22:00.480 That will be what it is. 285 00:22:01.859 --> 00:22:04.920 Is there any actual evidence in this trial? 286 00:22:04.980 --> 00:22:07.140 I mean, We don't hear him, no. 287 00:22:07.259 --> 00:22:08.099 No we don't hear it. 288 00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:16.799 I mean, we hear that 1000, we hear that there's 1417 people that Travis sort of slaughtered. 289 00:22:16.859 --> 00:22:18.839 And they're going to listen. 290 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:20.579 And we can't be asking them all. 291 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:24.900 But it doesn't feel like... 292 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:33.539 Yeah, it doesn't turn into a like a full trial type episode in like we're weighing up evidence or anything because in a sense that doesn't really matter. 293 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:52.079 What matters is Travis is kind of ahead of them up to a point where the sort of newly liberated liberator decides, oh, fuck it, let's go and blow some shit up. and they race along and they arrive and they have a little bit of a laser and they make a massive spark. 294 00:22:52.140 --> 00:22:56.160 And then instead of finishing their job, they go, oh, wow, Jesus, that's enough for today. 295 00:22:56.220 --> 00:22:56.940 Let's get out of here. 296 00:22:57.180 --> 00:23:00.420 And then I think start blowing up and all this stuff. 297 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:07.259 And then Servolan is like sitting in her office and everything is fine after this massive explosion's gone off on the side. 298 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:08.400 She's just sitting there going... 299 00:23:08.460 --> 00:23:10.140 Yeah, she's over the other side of the station. 300 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:11.880 She's not next door, is she? 301 00:23:11.940 --> 00:23:14.400 Like, none of the lights flicker. 302 00:23:14.460 --> 00:23:20.759 You know, she's still, you know, beautifully dressed in her sort of cook's outfit with silver buttons stuck on. 303 00:23:20.819 --> 00:23:26.640 She, you know, she's completely unaffected until sort of Travis wanders in. 304 00:23:26.700 --> 00:23:28.559 And what's the line? 305 00:23:28.619 --> 00:23:31.559 She says something like, I wonder what the damage is like. 306 00:23:31.619 --> 00:23:34.500 And then Travis walks in and goes, hi. 307 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:37.200 I thought he was like, hi. 308 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:41.099 No, no, no, no, no, because he said she says, oh, casualties. 309 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.799 And he says, hi, but rising all the time. 310 00:23:43.859 --> 00:23:45.180 No, he doesn't. not say hi. 311 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:45.660 All right. 312 00:23:47.700 --> 00:23:49.619 I'm back, did you? 313 00:23:49.619 --> 00:23:58.259 But I think this is one of Jacqueline Pierce's really best performances as Serverland. 314 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:02.099 She is so, she's just so cool in this episode. 315 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:05.640 She's playing everyone against each other. 316 00:24:05.700 --> 00:24:17.099 She's getting what she wants and I, and she's, I keep coming back to this, but at the moment, she is so, her performances are so still and cool. 317 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:21.240 She's not doing the flamboyant, big gestures all the time. 318 00:24:21.299 --> 00:24:27.779 She's really just small and yeah, I think she's phenomenal here. 319 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:35.940 Yeah, and there's a bit where she's I mean, she can be furious and she's still completely cold and completely in cold. 320 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:36.480 And composed. 321 00:24:36.539 --> 00:24:37.920 Yeah, and you get both of that. 322 00:24:37.980 --> 00:24:40.319 You get all of that coming out of her performance all at once. 323 00:24:40.380 --> 00:24:44.759 It's an amazing balancing act for someone to channel all that into the. 324 00:24:44.819 --> 00:24:45.839 But the lines are so good. 325 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.079 Like he's, he's so much better than anything I've got left. 326 00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:52.740 I mean, what, what, can you get that on Valentine's cards, do you think? 327 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:58.079 I mean, let's go to moonpig.com and I'm sending you. 328 00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:03.420 Pete, you are so much better than anything else I've got on this podcast. 329 00:25:06.539 --> 00:25:16.920 The other thing I noticed in there, which I forgot to mention is just before the Liberator arrives, just behind John Savaden, Fred Elliott, there's this little white dot that's moving. 330 00:25:16.980 --> 00:25:17.819 There is. 331 00:25:17.819 --> 00:25:19.019 It's a little white dot. 332 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:20.339 I think that's a really nice touch. 333 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:27.599 Even though, you know, you don't really, you know, they don't really do spaceships outside of windows, but they can do a little white dot approaching. 334 00:25:27.660 --> 00:25:29.099 I thought that was good. 335 00:25:29.460 --> 00:25:36.720 So the only thing that will say, you tell me whether this counts as a negative or not, or whether it's a deliberate thing to sort of throw us off. 336 00:25:36.779 --> 00:25:44.039 But the real abruptness with which suddenly, oh, actually, let's go and attack us, let's go and attack serve lands, headquarters. 337 00:25:44.099 --> 00:25:45.779 Oh, I wonder if there's a trial or something going on. 338 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:48.119 Well, of course, they don't they don't even know, do they? 339 00:25:48.180 --> 00:25:49.980 As far as they're concerned, it's just a drive-by. 340 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:51.480 It's like an egging, basically. 341 00:25:51.539 --> 00:25:54.180 They're just trying to buy chuckets of stuff in it and running away again. 342 00:25:54.240 --> 00:26:04.380 Um, and like they, uh, would it be better if they'd been, if they'd known, if they'd called picked up some signal and they're like, this is our chance to kill Servan and Travis. 343 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.559 But then it's not that kind of episode, is it? 344 00:26:07.619 --> 00:26:12.000 It comes back to just as with Blake's mission to the planet not being a mission. 345 00:26:12.059 --> 00:26:21.240 This is an instance of them not having an intelligence tip off that they're behaving on. just doing something completely spurious, which is like the lesson he's learned from the previous... 346 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:22.740 Yes, don't do spurious things. 347 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:24.299 Let's go and do spurious things. 348 00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:26.700 Is he a conservative cabinet minister at heart? 349 00:26:26.700 --> 00:26:33.900 Because basically, what have I learned from the 1st day whereas if I go ahead with a plan, it will lead to disaster and kill someone? 350 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:35.400 So I just won't bother having a plan. 351 00:26:35.460 --> 00:26:41.819 Ultimately ends with quite severe consequences, doesn't it, with the... 352 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.660 Well, yeah, because... 353 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:55.619 Well, the sort of irony is, if they hadn't gone and attacked space control when they did, Travis would have been put to death. 354 00:26:55.740 --> 00:26:57.720 And he would have been killed. 355 00:26:57.900 --> 00:27:03.119 But because of Blake's actions, actually, Travis ends up surviving this. 356 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.920 It's good. 357 00:27:04.980 --> 00:27:06.180 It's irony. 358 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.759 Yeah, dramatic irony, isn't it? 359 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:09.000 Yeah. 360 00:27:09.059 --> 00:27:10.920 What do we think of Serverlands? 361 00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:13.799 reaction to his survival. 362 00:27:13.859 --> 00:27:15.900 She just seems amused by it. 363 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:17.519 I was like, oh, go on then. off you go. 364 00:27:17.579 --> 00:27:18.480 That's a mute. 365 00:27:18.539 --> 00:27:23.579 I mean, well, she's doing it at gunpoint, so maybe that's just the way, just the demeanour she adopts. 366 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:35.279 But it's almost like it's occurring to her that having him out there being rogue could actually end up playing to her advantage because then she won't get blamed for anything he does and he might cause chaos that could be to her benefits. 367 00:27:35.339 --> 00:27:37.859 I don't know if I'm overthinking it or if that's where she's going. 368 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.460 No, I think I think that's where she's thinking, yeah. 369 00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:54.299 So I was thinking a little bit about the themes of this episode. 370 00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.059 Obviously we've got trial versus trial. 371 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:05.819 Um, The, and I haven't really got my head around what Zill is on about and with the planet and everything and how that is related. 372 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.220 Is that linked or is it metaphorical as well? 373 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:10.920 It's important to be woke. the main thing that she keeps saying. 374 00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:11.880 She did say that. 375 00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:13.140 Good, good for her. 376 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:14.759 I agree. 377 00:28:14.819 --> 00:28:20.039 But the other thing you get is this, the whole concept of time to think. 378 00:28:20.099 --> 00:28:32.940 It's not really a massive theme, but Travis says he didn't have time to think. whereas Blake has gone down to the planet for 13 hours to think, but actually he's just going to do it in his room from now on. 379 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.380 Theme wise. 380 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:43.559 I think this is all about how the individual fits into their different societies or families. 381 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.819 Uh, and so you've got, you've got Travis. 382 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.759 He's somebody that was basically raised in the military. 383 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.339 And that is his family. 384 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:59.880 That's what he's used to, that's his entire life, and he's being rejected by his family. 385 00:28:59.940 --> 00:29:03.059 So it's about how him as an individual reacts to that. 386 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:09.180 Blake has decided to basically leave his family unit of the liberator and the crew. 387 00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:13.799 And he then comes back and is reabsorbed back into the family. 388 00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:18.059 Um, and then, and then zeal on the planet. 389 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.619 Can't be with her family because they have to be alone in order to survive. 390 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:27.720 But ultimately, she then gets reabsorbed into the whole, the planet as a whole. 391 00:29:27.779 --> 00:29:32.460 Um, But that's obviously a negative consequence for her. 392 00:29:32.579 --> 00:29:35.640 So that theme runs across all 3 sections, I think. 393 00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.279 I've been thinking about that for a while. 394 00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.460 Ever since you stepped into that Japanese garden. 395 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:42.779 What the fuck does this episode mean? 396 00:29:45.299 --> 00:29:58.559 But you're right also, Colin, about the thinking thing, because the judge, um, Fleetwall, um, thingy, John Sabadon, that suit. um, yes. 397 00:29:58.619 --> 00:29:59.700 Old Star Killer. 398 00:30:00.299 --> 00:30:04.859 Call Travis, a savage, unthinking animal. 399 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:12.000 And then Serverland switches that round and says, oh, savage thinking animals have a way of surviving. 400 00:30:12.059 --> 00:30:24.059 That's an interesting line, though, because essentially what they're doing is they know that Travis is absolutely a product of their military, what they've created. 401 00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:35.039 And so by, they have to call him that because by, if they don't, then they are sort of admitting that, that they're a part of this and that they're equally responsible. 402 00:30:35.099 --> 00:30:39.900 So they have to say, you're this, this, this, this, this brute. 403 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:45.660 Um, and not a product of your training or our military. 404 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.559 Um, Yeah, because they're incredible guilty. 405 00:30:49.619 --> 00:30:53.700 Yeah, he's been bringing homicidal fascist dictatorships into disrepute, basically. 406 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:55.019 Yeah, exactly. 407 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.900 And it's what, again, Paul says it, doesn't it? 408 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:08.160 Whereas where he's asked whether he thinks Travis is guilty and he says, yeah, he gave the orders. 409 00:31:08.220 --> 00:31:09.480 We just did the shooting. 410 00:31:09.539 --> 00:31:14.039 We just did what we were told and it's always comes back to that. 411 00:31:14.099 --> 00:31:16.140 Yeah, he's the one in command. 412 00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.480 So he takes the takes the can for this. 413 00:31:18.539 --> 00:31:19.859 We were only obeying orders. 414 00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:21.119 Yeah. 415 00:31:21.180 --> 00:31:24.359 When you're up to your neck in slime and lasers. 416 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.900 I love that. 417 00:31:28.500 --> 00:31:30.539 That's my band name. 418 00:31:32.099 --> 00:31:36.779 I just want to go ask a question really. 419 00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:45.900 What do we make of the fact that he's that Travis is on trial for a massacre on Zacaster? 420 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:53.940 But obviously when he's introduced in season A, he's done a similar massacre on a place called Oros. 421 00:31:54.059 --> 00:31:55.859 And I wonder... 422 00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:56.819 I thought it was the same. 423 00:31:56.819 --> 00:31:57.720 No, it's a different planet. 424 00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:59.220 What a bastard. 425 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:05.279 Yeah, so he's he's done it twice and there's some continuity era where they've forgotten the name of the... 426 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:06.900 Oh, it's probably continuity era. 427 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:07.380 No. 428 00:32:07.380 --> 00:32:13.559 I guess they forgot that they'd mentioned it, but maybe hadn't checked back. 429 00:32:13.619 --> 00:32:14.700 Did they not watch script box? 430 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:15.599 We'll find out. 431 00:32:15.660 --> 00:32:17.279 Fuck out. 432 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:23.579 Either that or Brian Croucher did one and Stephen Grife did the exact game. 433 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:33.480 I mean, I guess I guess there's an idea that the Zacaster could have been earlier than the other one. 434 00:32:34.500 --> 00:32:40.799 And I think you, there's some justification for that because that wouldn't have been on Serverland's watch. 435 00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.559 She wouldn't have been supreme commander. 436 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:44.700 Oh, yeah. 437 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:50.160 So I don't know if they just decided that the Oros one was too... 438 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:51.480 And hadn't he... 439 00:32:51.539 --> 00:32:54.059 Yeah, hadn't he already been punished? 440 00:32:54.119 --> 00:33:00.539 He'd hadn't he faced some kind of punishment or stripping of his rank because of that when Servalam 1st brought him in and she was bringing him into the cold? 441 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:06.420 She was, I think she was bringing, like bringing him in from the cold, this disgraced man who'd been disgraced because of that massacre. 442 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.420 And so maybe now it's like, oh, here's another massacre. he's done. 443 00:33:09.660 --> 00:33:11.940 He just can't stop the massacre. 444 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:12.839 And I guess... 445 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:14.279 You got to have a hobby. 446 00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:16.680 And it is, of course, the point with the... 447 00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.259 The point of the trial is that it is a stitch up. 448 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:26.099 It's her trying to get him out of the picture before he can take, before he can call, be called as a witness against her. 449 00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.160 So, yeah, it's a blame storm. 450 00:33:29.220 --> 00:33:32.400 It's typical large organisation. 451 00:33:32.460 --> 00:33:34.259 Exactly the same in local government. 452 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:35.099 Well, not exactly the same. 453 00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:37.440 Mash, yeah. 454 00:33:49.559 --> 00:34:02.460 And, of course, well, Brian Crucher gets his, as I believe it's pronounced, gets his amazing, amazing moment in the spotlight. 455 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:09.119 So are all of you, moment, which I don't know how anyone could deliver that dialogue, really. 456 00:34:09.179 --> 00:34:13.559 I can't imagine Travis Wond doing it. even as it's written. 457 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:14.940 Well, it'd be a bit more rather, wouldn't it? 458 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:15.960 Yes. 459 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:21.420 I think it's very much Brian Croucher's best performance in the role here. 460 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.159 He is absolutely wonderful. 461 00:34:23.219 --> 00:34:27.360 I really like the, stop pulling faces, Colin, myself. 462 00:34:27.420 --> 00:34:28.980 Shut up, my love turn is great. 463 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:33.119 No, when I saw Blake 7 the 1st time. 464 00:34:33.179 --> 00:34:40.619 I saw Travis Mark II before I saw Travis Mark I. So he always feels like proper Travis to me. 465 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.960 So I've got my hands up there. 466 00:34:43.019 --> 00:34:45.239 Do you feel like about that with canine as well? 467 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.139 He's got better hair than the other Travis as well. 468 00:34:49.739 --> 00:34:51.300 That's true. 469 00:34:51.420 --> 00:34:52.019 Yeah. 470 00:34:52.019 --> 00:34:57.000 And he's a bit vainer because he's had the face bit tidied up, so, you know. 471 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.420 Yeah, he's got slightly less of an eye patch, hasn't he? 472 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:06.539 And he does the Roxy music tribute act on the space station at the Christmas party as well. 473 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.239 Is Brian Ferry impression? 474 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:11.639 He doesn't. 475 00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:19.079 Did you spot the amazing in the midst of the trial room decompressing and or havoc breaking loose? 476 00:35:19.139 --> 00:35:22.380 He still managed to do a karate chop on someone as he walks back to him. 477 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:23.699 Yes, does. 478 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.500 That's the mark of a pro. 479 00:35:25.500 --> 00:35:31.079 On a par with the one Beryl Reed gives to a cyberman in Earthshock. 480 00:35:31.139 --> 00:35:32.340 Oh, Miss Pick. 481 00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:38.039 But no, I really like the Muppet Blake 7. 482 00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:39.000 Sorry. 483 00:35:39.059 --> 00:35:40.679 The must have played seven. 484 00:35:40.739 --> 00:35:43.139 Colin, what have you unleashed to our brains? 485 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:44.099 What? 486 00:35:44.099 --> 00:35:46.260 The Muppets do blank seven. 487 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.059 Miss Piggy's got to be Servolan, really, hasn't she? 488 00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:49.559 Yeah, absolutely. 489 00:35:49.619 --> 00:35:50.039 Yep. 490 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.179 Kermit is obviously Blake. 491 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.539 It's not easy being a massacre. 492 00:35:58.260 --> 00:36:00.179 It's not easy. 493 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:01.860 It's not easy doing a massacre. 494 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:02.579 Also, Tom. 495 00:36:02.579 --> 00:36:05.159 Fozy is definitely finner. 496 00:36:08.219 --> 00:36:09.059 I don't know. 497 00:36:09.059 --> 00:36:13.679 Avon would be both the guys at the back who watch. 498 00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:15.000 Oh, Statler and Waldo. 499 00:36:15.300 --> 00:36:18.059 I don't like this episode at all, Bill. 500 00:36:19.260 --> 00:36:22.079 Ah, generous is Janice. 501 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:28.199 He apologise for the breakdown in your maximum power podcast. 502 00:36:29.340 --> 00:36:33.960 So anyway, Ryan Croucher gives some really good performance here. 503 00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:53.219 And I really like the fact that he's playing it like he knows exactly how this is going to play out and he plays it very blank and not giving anything away in the trial until he loses his rag finally. and shouts at, at, um, Thania, doesn't he? 504 00:36:53.280 --> 00:37:00.719 So, yeah, until then, he's been very restrained and very, and then suddenly you get the full Brian Croucher. 505 00:37:00.900 --> 00:37:10.500 And that's great because they all shout over each other, which is sort of, I think, quite unusual in these programs of this sort of era. 506 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.039 But that, yeah, it's, I think it's really effective. 507 00:37:14.340 --> 00:37:26.940 You know, the other thing that's effective is when Blake leaves the message for them, he leaves sufficient time for Avon to come in and make a comment. 508 00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:29.159 That's the only other thing. 509 00:37:30.179 --> 00:37:33.000 It's like he knows one is going to come. 510 00:37:33.059 --> 00:37:34.440 So I just wait, yeah. 511 00:37:43.739 --> 00:37:54.119 So then we get the verdict and it is delivered most amazingly, like, you shall, in ascending order, lose your library card, have no lunch ticket. for tomorrow. 512 00:37:54.179 --> 00:37:56.519 Have to hand in your uniform and be murdered. 513 00:37:58.380 --> 00:38:00.719 You could have just cut straight to that. 514 00:38:00.780 --> 00:38:03.599 But I guess they're trying to make it. was growing up okay for you? 515 00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.119 I wasn't very good at karate chopping people. 516 00:38:09.179 --> 00:38:10.199 So, no. 517 00:38:10.260 --> 00:38:14.340 But, um, did you think, I mean, watching this for the 1st time? 518 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:19.980 I've only seen it once before, and I do remember thinking, oh, well, this probably is going to be it for him. 519 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:26.039 It did surprise me when he got away at the end, but it's an exciting ending. 520 00:38:26.099 --> 00:38:28.260 He is jam-packed this episode. 521 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:32.699 It's full of, you know, you're not bored through any of it, really. 522 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:41.940 I had this memory that the whole scene's on Sarcaster, Zencaster, whatever, on Genesis, went on for ages. 523 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.500 But they don't really. 524 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:47.159 It's only like kind of 10 minutes interspersed. 525 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.619 And it's very much to the point. 526 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.840 And then it's out on his back. 527 00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:57.719 I still want to do my, um, I still think it is Planogenesis, so I can do my, I want Genesis. 528 00:38:57.780 --> 00:38:59.219 Impression. 529 00:39:00.059 --> 00:39:02.519 Give me... 530 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:03.059 Phil Collins. 531 00:39:04.739 --> 00:39:07.260 Oh, dare you set bastards. 532 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:08.340 Sorry. 533 00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:32.400 And it's interesting because I always remember it seeming to take forever for Blake and everyone to turn up, but actually, it's only 5 minutes, but it always feels like a lot longer before they turn up, and I'm always willing it to be a lot longer because all the stuff with the Federation is still more interesting this week, particularly the politicking and everything else is going on. 534 00:39:32.460 --> 00:39:36.059 It's a twist that it's Travis who's on trial, isn't it? 535 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:42.840 Coming into it straight out of the previous episode, you just, I just would have assumed that they'd been captured and it was going to be Blake on trial. 536 00:39:43.619 --> 00:39:45.059 Yeah. 537 00:39:45.119 --> 00:40:00.780 But yeah, no, I think this is really nice and it, I love the, the idea that it, it puts Travis and Blake on equal footing and that Travis is now an outlaw in the same way Blake is, um, they, yeah, they do make that very clear. 538 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.260 It's like, we choose the code word outlaw. 539 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:10.139 Yeah. should flash the word outlaw at the front of the screen as well. 540 00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.019 Just make doubly sure. 541 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:14.400 But I quite like that. 542 00:40:14.460 --> 00:40:19.260 I think maybe that the season then doesn't make the most of that. 543 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.800 Um, at least not right away. 544 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:46.500 No, and I think this is, because next time we see Travis, Um, he has done some bits, but he's also back in league with Serverland almost straight away, and it feels like a missed opportunity that they haven't explored Travis on his own and how he's going to survive and what he's going to do to Blake, as well as the Federation being on Blake's tail. 545 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.159 You could have had the 2 of them coming at him from different angles. 546 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:11.519 So, uh, thank you very much for joining us for trial, and um, I hope you've enjoyed the thoughts of my friends, my savage thinking animals, and my philosophical fleas. 547 00:41:11.579 --> 00:41:13.920 This is the stuff that legends are made of. 548 00:41:13.980 --> 00:41:17.760 So thank you very much for listening and goodbye. 549 00:41:17.820 --> 00:41:18.360 Goodbye. 550 00:41:18.420 --> 00:41:19.559 Bye. 551 00:41:19.619 --> 00:41:20.880 Goodbye. 552 00:41:23.940 --> 00:41:25.800 Switching to manual. 553 00:41:25.860 --> 00:41:27.960 Maximum power on all drives. 554 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:32.820 Maximal power. 555 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:53.159 For him, it did surprise me when he got away at the end, but it's an exciting ending. 556 00:41:56.219 --> 00:41:56.760 Yeah. 557 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:58.619 Yeah. 558 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.659 He's got his... 559 00:42:00.659 --> 00:42:04.079 I said something so bland and it completely killed the conversation. 560 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:14.820 Well, thank you for your opinion, there, Pete. is jam-packed this episode. 561 00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.219 It's full of, you know, you're not bored. 562 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.940 This is the stuff that legends are made of. 563 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:29.340 So hope you'll join us next week for next week's episode, which is... 564 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:30.000 Killer. 565 00:42:30.659 --> 00:42:39.420 Join us next week for killer, which I won't be on, but everyone... do insincere and over the top laughing. 566 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:42.900 Oh, yeah, let's do that. 567 00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:44.400 Let's do play space at the end. 568 00:42:44.460 --> 00:42:45.780 Oh my god. 569 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:47.039 That's amazing, Colin. 570 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:50.940 Fortunately, you can't see that. 571 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.119 So thank you very much for listening and goodbye. 572 00:42:57.179 --> 00:42:57.599 Goodbye. 573 00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:57.960 Goodbye. 574 00:42:58.019 --> 00:42:58.559 Goodbye. 575 00:42:58.860 --> 00:43:00.239 Bye. 576 00:43:00.300 --> 00:43:05.460 I think I'll correct that. edit. and we'll re record. 577 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:06.480 You may read course.