WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 21:54:54 1 00:00:03.660 --> 00:00:06.360 Maximal power. 2 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:15.060 Welcome back to Maximum Power, a Blake 7 podcast. 3 00:00:15.419 --> 00:00:16.260 I'm Cy. 4 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:17.339 I'm Colin. 5 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:18.239 I'm Mark. 6 00:00:18.300 --> 00:00:19.199 And I'm Pete. 7 00:00:19.260 --> 00:00:28.980 So here we are at Pressure Point, episode 6 of Series B of Blake 7 and nothing really happens in this one, does it? 8 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:30.960 So nothing of notes. 9 00:00:31.019 --> 00:00:39.179 We're in standard Federation versus Blake territory this week, and it's all going to be fine. 10 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.060 Absolutely fine. 11 00:00:43.020 --> 00:00:44.939 But absolutely. 12 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:47.640 Just as long as nobody tries to penetrate the forbidden zone. 13 00:00:47.700 --> 00:00:49.679 Or is it the Forbidden Zone? 14 00:00:49.740 --> 00:00:59.700 It's the security zone within the Forbidden Zone because you can tell it's a security zone because there's a sign on the floor underneath some grass that's catching fire, which isn't a clue in any way. 15 00:01:01.740 --> 00:01:06.299 So, we're back on the planet Earth. 16 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:10.079 And as Jenna says, it's been a long time. 17 00:01:10.140 --> 00:01:20.099 How do we feel about popping back to the planet where it all started and is it just a little bit different to how we saw it originally in the way back? 18 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:28.319 Well, I mean, the 1st thing is, for some reason, you get to see Arthur Dent's house, and I don't know what that, what that is. 19 00:01:28.379 --> 00:01:31.019 I don't know if Serverland's in there or Travis is in there. 20 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:36.359 But it doesn't seem, it's like we've done this, a lot of this world building where everything's inside the dome. 21 00:01:36.420 --> 00:01:39.359 So why are these people outside the... 22 00:01:39.420 --> 00:01:41.159 You can't go free forbidden zones in dorms. 23 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:46.560 It would be a forbidden dome. 24 00:01:46.620 --> 00:01:47.519 This is a forbidden zone. 25 00:01:47.579 --> 00:01:49.859 The forbidden zone zone. 26 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:55.859 Look, they've obviously got interesting reasons for going back because obviously there's an underground bunker, so they must go. 27 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:03.359 But moreover, it's this Blake's instincts versus risk taking versus sort of gambling. 28 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:06.959 And it's in his instincts and like we've got to do this. 29 00:02:07.019 --> 00:02:07.739 I want to strike earth. 30 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:09.479 I want to strike the Federation at its heart. 31 00:02:09.539 --> 00:02:11.099 It's fine. 32 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:13.860 You just, yeah, I mean, it's not about perhaps world building on it. 33 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.580 There's only one tiny bit of a world building where Gan goes, what's this? 34 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:18.900 And he goes, oh, it's a church. 35 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:22.199 They destroyed them all in about 200 years ago or something like that. 36 00:02:22.259 --> 00:02:25.020 Yeah, nothing nothing else has really happened since the left. 37 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.000 I thought that was interesting. 38 00:02:27.060 --> 00:02:42.120 It sort of brings some elements of shading that the Federation isn't all bad, um, whereas before they'd sort of, uh, you know, been built up to, uh, you know, that they were just uniformly evil and all the rest of it, but it was nice to bring some nuance in, I thought. 39 00:02:42.180 --> 00:02:44.759 Yeah, because Kasabi gets that line, doesn't she, about? 40 00:02:44.819 --> 00:02:53.699 She says to serverland, you're the reason the federation's become degenerate, almost as if it used to be quite nice, really, until these people like serverland came along and ruined it all. 41 00:02:53.759 --> 00:03:08.219 Well, maybe it's one of those dictatorships that starts out with the very best of intentions, and they're going to make the world a better place for everyone, and then gradually people see ways of exploiting it, and yeah, it all changes and becomes a bit of a mess. 42 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.039 We've all dreamed of a nice dorm-based secular society. 43 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:14.879 And then a few bad apples come along and ruin it. 44 00:03:14.939 --> 00:03:15.180 Yeah. 45 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.639 You talk about centre parks, basically, aren't you? 46 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.120 Pretty much the difference. 47 00:03:21.180 --> 00:03:25.919 This is the way that people in Luke got centre parks. view people who go to ordinary campsites, I think. 48 00:03:26.340 --> 00:03:29.039 This is a very middle class podcast. 49 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:30.300 It's the Eden Project. 50 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:35.759 You come away from their completely drugged up. 51 00:03:35.819 --> 00:03:36.780 It's fine. 52 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:44.039 Surrounded by about 20 feet of impenetrable unmowed grass, which is pretty much all that there is to it. 53 00:03:44.099 --> 00:03:51.479 But it's done with conviction because as our 2 little bits of cannon fodder in the opening sequence showers quite clearly. 54 00:03:51.539 --> 00:03:56.099 But, uh, yeah, you just tell that they're doomed from the 2nd that they come on, because you've seen teronation in the credits. 55 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:57.719 It's nice to have terri nation back. 56 00:03:57.780 --> 00:03:59.099 I know they've been mixing it up a bit. 57 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:03.900 But it's nice to have Terry Nation back writing an episode and throwing all of his Terry Nation stuff right at it for me. 58 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:10.319 Except for the bit later on when the liberator crew are running across the, the sort of the deadly field. 59 00:04:10.379 --> 00:04:20.879 And when Gan runs with Villa, and he says, I thought it would save time, and I thought that was very unterrination, you'd normally have them all running one by one across the, across Atlantic rats. 60 00:04:20.939 --> 00:04:26.579 They should have bought a giant egg timer to turn over. to indicate countdown. 61 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:28.860 Speaking of return to earth. 62 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:32.459 It does give Jenna a chance to sing the theme to Star Trek Enterprise. 63 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:34.079 It's been a long time. 64 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.079 Getting from there to here. 65 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.540 Getting from there to here in 8 seconds over that field. 66 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:40.620 It's not 8 seconds. 67 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:41.819 It's like 2 fucking seconds. 68 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:42.720 Come on. 69 00:04:42.779 --> 00:04:44.399 No, no, no. 70 00:04:44.459 --> 00:04:50.879 My notes say it goes from total self-repair in 8 seconds, so it's definitely 8 seconds. 71 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:52.920 Definitely 8 seconds. 72 00:04:52.980 --> 00:04:53.519 Wrong. 73 00:04:57.660 --> 00:05:01.620 I'm curious in the opening section with Blake. 74 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:03.540 He's really going for it, isn't he? 75 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:09.360 He's sudden, he's back to being messianic, determined, obsessed leader. 76 00:05:09.420 --> 00:05:12.240 I think he's kind of doing a little bit of a Paul Darrow impression at one point. 77 00:05:12.300 --> 00:05:16.740 There's the bit where he delivers that speech and then Avon sardonically claps him. 78 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:22.139 And I thought that's like, is that Paul Darrow actually clapping him having, you've stolen my act, mate? 79 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:24.240 I love that. 80 00:05:24.300 --> 00:05:26.759 No, it's really interesting, isn't it? 81 00:05:26.819 --> 00:05:32.459 Because everything he's doing and saying is I'd rather not try. 82 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:34.139 I'd do this. 83 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:35.040 I do that. 84 00:05:35.100 --> 00:05:37.980 Not we, not I want you with me. 85 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:44.459 He's determined to do this because it's him and it's like he's brought into his myth. 86 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:48.000 Yeah, it's a big change from the Blake of series 8, isn't it? 87 00:05:48.060 --> 00:06:13.199 Yes, and we've seen this sort of all the way through series B so far, so particularly in Shadow, where he's not concerned with Cali, when she's having her Aurac inspired breakdown, and he doesn't care about what's going on there because it's getting in the way of his plot with the Pterranostra, and in Horizon, he's playing the percentages, so that Avon won't run. 88 00:06:13.259 --> 00:06:20.220 He's thinking about all these things and how it affects him, but not necessarily how it affects the rest of the crew. 89 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:21.480 Yeah, man with man with a mission. 90 00:06:21.540 --> 00:06:36.600 Yeah, I think I've watched this episode twice, and I think the 1st time the tragic finale, which obviously we'll get to, I felt like, well, that came from nowhere, but then watching it the 2nd time round, you see that it is seeded throughout where the whole crew are questioning him and saying it's not suicide mission. 91 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:53.279 And then when they find out that his his contact with the resistance has already died, and Gan says, right, like, we should just pull out now, he's given opportunity after opportunity to not to go ahead with it as the risks stack up and still does it, doesn't he? 92 00:06:53.339 --> 00:06:55.079 Yeah, after promising them all. 93 00:06:55.139 --> 00:06:57.959 Are you sure none of us are going to get killed on this mission, but... 94 00:06:58.019 --> 00:07:01.860 Yeah, definitely no, nobody's going to like, what if we're probably going to get killed? 95 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:04.439 No, if you're probably going to get killed, I'll call it all off. 96 00:07:04.500 --> 00:07:05.639 I absolutely promise. 97 00:07:05.699 --> 00:07:09.360 It's kind of like when you're the one person at work who's John upside everyone to go out for a few beers after work. 98 00:07:09.420 --> 00:07:10.560 I was like, are you sure? 99 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:11.939 It's not going to be a messy night. 100 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.160 It's definitely not going to be a messy night. 101 00:07:14.220 --> 00:07:16.439 No one's going to end up punched in a doorway. 102 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.500 With everything collapsing around them. 103 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.899 We haven't done a spoiler warning, have we? 104 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:23.100 Have we done a spoiler warning? 105 00:07:23.100 --> 00:07:27.120 For our wonderful listeners. who may be watching along with us. 106 00:07:27.180 --> 00:07:31.319 I suspect they watched the episode 1st before listening to us. blather about it. would hope so. 107 00:07:31.379 --> 00:07:33.540 Well, if you haven't, you've got about 30. 108 00:07:33.540 --> 00:07:38.639 If you haven't, you've got 5 minutes to get out of this podcast or 8 seconds. 109 00:07:38.699 --> 00:07:41.279 Yeah, 8 seconds. 110 00:07:41.339 --> 00:07:50.279 Of course, because seconds have been probably been decimalized in this hellish future world, along with the new, they say it's the start of the new calendar. 111 00:07:50.339 --> 00:07:54.660 Maybe they have new seconds too, and that explains why it takes different amounts of time to run across a mineshield. 112 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:59.939 It's still imperial measurements for the, for the distance across the minefield, though, isn't it? 113 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:00.240 Noticed? 114 00:08:00.300 --> 00:08:02.279 Villa say it's 50 yards or something. 115 00:08:02.339 --> 00:08:04.259 Maybe that's because he's a rebel. 116 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:06.360 He's not going to use that fancy European nonsense. 117 00:08:07.620 --> 00:08:16.439 The stuff with Blake leads to a really interesting conversation between Blake and Avon about what might happen after this. 118 00:08:16.500 --> 00:08:19.560 So, Pete, what do you think about that? 119 00:08:19.620 --> 00:08:21.660 The tension in that scene is fantastic. 120 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:26.279 I've been shipping Blave on since the start and I honestly thought they were just going to give each other a kiss at one point. 121 00:08:26.339 --> 00:08:29.819 It was just so just a testosterone. 122 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:31.560 You could smell the imperial leather. 123 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:36.779 And, um, that kind of 70s maleness that you just don't get anymore. 124 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:38.700 Uh, uh, yeah. 125 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:46.139 So, no, seriously, that was a, it was a really well written scene and it's, it's, I know we have a tendency whenever any good line of dialogue comes out. 126 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:51.960 We immediately go, oh, Chris Boucher, and maybe it will Boucher, but... 127 00:08:52.019 --> 00:08:58.860 Right, in normal conversation, I can say easily, not that I have to all that off. recording going on. 128 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:04.559 Who played the 1st Travis, by the way, Pete, who played the 1st Travis? 129 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.200 I don't know. 130 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.220 Stephen Grief cry. 131 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:12.120 A grief cry. 132 00:09:12.179 --> 00:09:12.539 Oh, yeah. 133 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:13.620 Of course. 134 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:15.960 I haven't got that written down on my notes. 135 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:23.039 I've deleted that But, um, Grief Grief left to set up a mobile phone company, didn't he? 136 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:45.240 Ladies and gentlemen, what was saying earlier about, I think Blake is deliberately doing an Avon to a certain extent, but in a different, for different reasons, when he says, while it exists, the Federation is invulnerable, and he really powers that word out, just like Paul Darrow would. 137 00:09:45.299 --> 00:09:47.220 Wait, hang on. 138 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:52.019 While it exists, the Federation is invulnerable. impenetrable or whatever. 139 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.000 That means you could just give up. 140 00:09:54.059 --> 00:09:55.740 I mean, clearly. 141 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:57.720 No, we can destroy it. 142 00:09:58.259 --> 00:10:00.240 Well, control exists. 143 00:10:00.299 --> 00:10:01.559 Yes. 144 00:10:01.620 --> 00:10:03.720 Oh yeah, it could be in control in that sentence. 145 00:10:03.779 --> 00:10:04.980 Okay, good. 146 00:10:04.980 --> 00:10:07.440 Yeah, I thought that conversation was really key as well. 147 00:10:07.500 --> 00:10:26.940 It's the 1st felt like the 1st time that Avon's really spoken about it to Blake, I think, before he said to other members of the crew, there will be a day when Blake isn't in charge, but it feels like it's sort of, you know, dragged out into the open, what's been there between him and Blake, and it's, but it's quite civil. 148 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:49.440 It's, it's sort of, you know, where you'll get what you want, you can unite all the rebels and I'll get the liberator, but it's not clear what he's going to do with it, is it whether he's going to continue the fight in space or whether he's just going to take this amazing ship off and rob people and just keep himself safe and from, I mean, imagine in the latter, but yeah, I thought it was weird that Blake didn't ask him what he would do with it. 149 00:10:49.500 --> 00:10:57.899 No, it's almost like Blake's assuming he will carry on doing this work out in the outer worlds or wherever and do that. 150 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:07.139 But as we've seen in the previous episode in Horizon, Avon's definitely out for himself at this point or it feels like he is. 151 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.460 I think in later seasons, he does hand over the mantle. 152 00:11:11.580 --> 00:11:22.860 I think Avon is trying to really take the Federation down, not just sort of go off to a desert island or anything or a space desert planet, but at this point he's still in the zone of thinking for himself. 153 00:11:22.860 --> 00:11:25.980 And they kind of overdo that a little bit, I think, but it still works. 154 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:35.580 I do like the smile on his face as he says, and somebody has to take charge of all this looking round and liberate. 155 00:11:36.419 --> 00:11:38.639 Yeah, off you go, Blake. 156 00:11:38.700 --> 00:11:40.620 You can go do the admin work down on it. 157 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:43.019 You'll be in charge of the shipping freight and everything. 158 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.419 I'm off on a joyride. 159 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:50.340 He's going to be doing donuts around Jupiter and the illberator as soon as he gets rid of Blake, isn't he? 160 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:55.679 he So yeah, and there's a lot of tension between Blake and Avon all the way through. 161 00:11:55.740 --> 00:12:00.360 Avon is super suspicious all the way through this episode, isn't he? 162 00:12:00.419 --> 00:12:06.240 He's really pushing Blake and he's not at all happy about where this is going. 163 00:12:06.299 --> 00:12:09.840 He's the only one who seems to see through what Blake's doing. 164 00:12:09.899 --> 00:12:19.620 He's right to be suspicious because Blake has withheld the mission from them and then not told them about the Miss rendezvous and everything else that's happened. 165 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:23.759 So it's not Blake isn't really, I think, inspiring much trust. 166 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.200 Or loyalty in his crew at this time at this point. 167 00:12:28.259 --> 00:12:32.399 Yeah, and I think it's really well done because it's a really natural conflict. 168 00:12:32.460 --> 00:12:47.879 It doesn't, they just don't suddenly all start yelling at each other for no particular reason, which can happen sometimes when a scriptwriter is trying to shush things up a bit, but it has just, it's just grown out of their, their character's development and particularly Blake's frustration at not having been able to really make an impact. 169 00:12:48.059 --> 00:12:52.200 And so he suddenly sort of bit out of nowhere, but it's the story of the week. 170 00:12:52.259 --> 00:13:00.000 He gets this lead, which I think has been ceded before, but to go on this one mission that can suddenly make his eyes light up about making a difference. 171 00:13:00.059 --> 00:13:01.919 And he goes a bit mad basically, doesn't he? 172 00:13:01.980 --> 00:13:05.580 He's a bit off his rocker to put it in an unkind language. 173 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:20.940 To help him in his quest to take down control, he's made contact with another rebel leader, Kasabi, who it turns out, was originally written as a man called Kasabian. 174 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:27.179 So it's Terry Nation once again switching the gender of his his people, which is good. 175 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:31.500 It's good to have it's nice and progressive to have another female freedom fighter. 176 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.379 She's a bit tougher than Avalon last year. 177 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.120 Colin, you're making faces. 178 00:13:36.179 --> 00:13:41.100 So you're not... not impressed with with Kasabi. awesome. 179 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:53.700 I'm not impressed with Kasabi because I don't think rebel leader of the week thing that's just dropped in and then suddenly you're just here to talk to Servoland, but her performance is terrible. 180 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:56.820 I mean, there's so many bad performances in this episode. 181 00:13:57.179 --> 00:13:57.539 Oh, sorry. 182 00:13:57.600 --> 00:13:59.159 That's really that's really mean of me. 183 00:13:59.220 --> 00:14:02.700 Does Lady Jennifer from the war games that you're blaspheming against? 184 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:03.539 Is it? 185 00:14:03.539 --> 00:14:04.139 Oh God. 186 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:08.220 Well, we haven't got we haven't got to Janet from Terror of the Vervoids yet. 187 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:08.759 Not yet. 188 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:10.860 We will. 189 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:15.720 I thought it was Gene Marsh at 1st when she had a hair up and a cap on and she was out in the woods. 190 00:14:15.779 --> 00:14:16.860 I was like, oh, wow, it's Jesus. 191 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:17.639 That would have been awesome. 192 00:14:17.700 --> 00:14:21.179 Yeah, and then when she was captured, I thought, oh, no, it's Jim Marsh. 193 00:14:21.299 --> 00:14:23.879 It didn't look like a bit like a from a distance. 194 00:14:24.299 --> 00:14:41.159 What I really liked is the relationship between Kasabi and Serverland, which is dropping some fascinating hints about Serverland past, which I think makes the character a bit more interesting than Rebel of the Week that you think you're going to meet. 195 00:14:41.220 --> 00:14:46.139 And, um, yeah, so, um, what do you think about that mark? 196 00:14:46.500 --> 00:14:49.200 Yeah, that was interesting. 197 00:14:49.259 --> 00:14:58.620 It was a little bit late, the sort of Darth Vader, Obi-Wan Kenobi relationship, wasn't it, of the trainee sort of, you know, rising up and betraying the mentor. 198 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:08.759 And I suppose explains how Serverline has risen so high in the Federation, so young that she's just been willing to sort of stab anybody in the back and climb over anybody. 199 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:18.480 But the line that Kasabi said, when they talked, she was asking Kasabi about Blake and she says, is he young more in your line, surely? 200 00:15:18.899 --> 00:15:23.820 I wasn't sure exactly what that was a reference to or what she was getting at there. 201 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:27.299 Because, I mean, because Servan's so young herself, I think. 202 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:40.919 Oh, I took that as a little digger, Serverland, sort of only being interested in sort of Toy Boys or something as if she had a reputation for that. not wanting to deal with anyone who might conflict with her or stand up to her. 203 00:15:40.980 --> 00:15:42.120 That's what I took from that line. 204 00:15:42.179 --> 00:15:43.620 Yeah, I thought it was something like that. 205 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.559 But I mean, she's only, she only looks about like mid 20s herself. 206 00:15:46.620 --> 00:15:49.379 It's not like a cougar issue, you know what I mean? 207 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:50.100 Yeah. 208 00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:57.840 Yeah, I wonder if it could be an overhang from an earlier, a very earlier version when, before Serviland was made female. 209 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:03.899 Well, when we 1st meet Surverland, she's got her very young bit of stuff, Ray, hasn't she? 210 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:05.580 Encyclocate destroyed. 211 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:09.899 So maybe Terry Nation is thinking back to that perhaps. 212 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:23.580 Well, it's just thought it was just one of those offhand lines that Kasabi is throwing out just to sort of try and get a rise out of Serverland, maybe, and so that she can battle her way then sort of out of this room or whatever. 213 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:25.440 I mean, it's okay. 214 00:16:25.500 --> 00:16:30.120 It's a good bit of character building, but it's really not enough to justify this. 215 00:16:30.179 --> 00:16:31.799 It's just she's just a plot device. 216 00:16:31.860 --> 00:16:34.440 There's not really much to say, she's just captured. 217 00:16:34.500 --> 00:16:41.519 Uh, Servolan insists on um, injecting her, uh, herself. you know, a bit of exposition. 218 00:16:41.580 --> 00:16:44.879 You've just destroyed the entire format of Blake 7, I can't. 219 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:49.139 Some people and they have a fight and they fly around in spaceships. 220 00:16:49.259 --> 00:17:01.620 That's right I just felt that Travis didn't need to be there in a way because he's, he's, it's just like unnecessary dialogue if you've got 2 of them there. 221 00:17:01.620 --> 00:17:07.680 And what they could have done is have a bit more interesting stuff with, I was going to say wasabi. 222 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.599 She's probably named after, thanks to Google. 223 00:17:12.660 --> 00:17:23.220 Linda Kasabian, who was the getaway driver of the Manson family, who did all the murders in America in the late 60s, that whole cult murder thing. 224 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:24.359 Yeah, which... 225 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:25.559 Stop Googling that. 226 00:17:25.619 --> 00:17:28.980 Which is also where the band, Kazavian, get their name. 227 00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:34.259 There is one good line, I think, where Kasabi says I should have tried to help you. 228 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:35.039 Yes. 229 00:17:35.099 --> 00:17:54.240 And it provokes a really interesting reaction from Servoland as well, where she looks almost hurt or upset just for and the camera just holds it just for a 2nd and you see this almost fragile moment from her, which you don't see very often. 230 00:17:54.299 --> 00:17:56.460 It's like she's got under her skin. 231 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:05.880 Yeah, the Kasabi had a unsuccessful de-radicalization program, if she really thought that she could save serve one, but from her own nature, but could not. 232 00:18:06.059 --> 00:18:16.799 I love the, um, the, the, the, when the way Servlin appears in her, in her white, lovely white suit and hat in the woods, completely managing to sneak up on them somehow. 233 00:18:16.859 --> 00:18:39.359 I think that, that was originally written to be Travis capturing them, but, but this is, oh, by the way, this episode is the point where um, Serviland now gets top baddy billing after you've had all of the, all of the, all of the liberator crew credited. 2 or 3 weeks ago, it was still Travis, who was billed next and then Serviland, but this week she has well and truly usurped him and taken her place. 234 00:18:39.420 --> 00:18:44.640 She's been to the same space tailor as Skagra from Shada, hasn't she? 235 00:18:44.700 --> 00:18:47.460 Yeah, great big white hats. 236 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:55.859 I like the way she's so dolled up, even though she's just been pacing around that room for 18 days waiting for something to happen. 237 00:18:55.980 --> 00:19:03.960 She hasn't sacrificed any of her kind of style or anything, actually, for that job, just to stand in a room with 3 other people. 238 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:13.619 Perhaps she started off with the really practical stuff on day one, and it's got nothing practical, and she's gone along. and she's sort of gone through her wardrobe before. 239 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:20.339 Oh, no, this is the only one that's clean. except it's not because she does change into another dress for the last scenes. 240 00:19:20.460 --> 00:19:22.079 At good point. 241 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:22.980 Yeah. 242 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.759 Genemous maker get changed at gunpoint because she's in one costume. 243 00:19:27.539 --> 00:19:33.900 And then when they arrive in the empty room, she's got changed into another one. 244 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:36.720 Get it to your spaceball gown. 245 00:19:36.779 --> 00:19:49.019 Well, yeah, and I mean, and what, I've complained about Jenna not being piracy enough at times in the past, but this time she's, she's like, she's about to host the Eurovision song contest or something in that blue evening gown that she resplendently. 246 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:54.299 And on the scenes on the on the liberator bridge at the start, she literally has to hoist it up because she can't run. 247 00:19:54.359 --> 00:20:01.079 She has to sort of grab it at her hips and pull it up a little bit so that she can totter excitedly to her control. 248 00:20:01.140 --> 00:20:03.240 I think Villa has the best costume. 249 00:20:03.299 --> 00:20:08.220 He's wearing a bib backwards. really bizarre. 250 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.920 The rest of the costume is great. 251 00:20:10.980 --> 00:20:18.180 The gray top that he's got on is really nice, but the yellow thing is just bizarre. 252 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:20.220 It's really odd. 253 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:25.799 Jenna's got a handbag as well. what she'd brought in her handbag. 254 00:20:25.859 --> 00:20:28.319 It's full of teleport bracelets. 255 00:20:29.220 --> 00:20:30.599 Yeah. 256 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:32.099 Why is there a teleport handbag? 257 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:37.799 Don't see many space handbags, so everything is a good practical solution for her. 258 00:20:46.859 --> 00:20:56.579 As we mentioned, we've got Travis also in this episode, but is this the moment the character becomes completely and utterly redundant in the series? 259 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:58.319 What do you think, Pete? 260 00:20:58.380 --> 00:21:02.519 I thought you were going to say completely and utterly deranged or something. 261 00:21:02.940 --> 00:21:05.099 He is he is utterly deranged as well. 262 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:07.440 Yeah, it was never ranged. 263 00:21:07.500 --> 00:21:09.539 But, um, it's, um... 264 00:21:09.539 --> 00:21:22.200 Yes, but that, and, and that, I mean, we talked about it way back last year, you know, his sort of his impotence and his inability to do the one, his one job that, that Serverland increasingly wields all that power over him. 265 00:21:22.259 --> 00:21:29.640 But in this one, at least it's, it's really not his fault this time because it's, it's Servoland getting, well, jumping ahead to the end. 266 00:21:29.700 --> 00:21:30.960 But I don't think it's his fault this time. 267 00:21:31.019 --> 00:21:43.859 But yeah, he's he's really lost it, but I love the uh, the dynamic of that scene where he is calling on Servolan to lift the, uh, to deactivate the minefield. so that he can get in and chase them in and recapture them. 268 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:59.640 And she has to put a call through to Federation HQ to get the minefield switched off, which just shows that the 2 of them are still a unit that has to succeed in order to impress someone else, you know, the, the, the, there are powers that be above the, above the 2 of them. 269 00:21:59.700 --> 00:22:06.180 And I think that makes their sparring and their, um, a little bit of their bickering, still have a, and a really entertaining dynamic to it. 270 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:17.700 Like, particularly when he tries to stop her administering the final dose of the truth serum, of the likely fatal truth serum, to, uh, to, what you call it, Kasabi, and now. 271 00:22:17.940 --> 00:22:21.299 Which is so easy to capture because she's got a club foot, perhaps. 272 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:24.839 But, um, that's the name of the Kazamian song. 273 00:22:24.900 --> 00:22:26.700 Okay. 274 00:22:26.700 --> 00:22:34.079 But that bit where she Tervlon goes and he tries to snatch it off her and she just slaps him back like a cat. 275 00:22:34.140 --> 00:22:35.940 It's very good. 276 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:40.619 There's a bit of, speaking of Travis, some very odd dialogue delivery. 277 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:43.500 What are you talking about? 278 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:46.380 What is the matter with you? 279 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:49.079 It's not well directed. 280 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:56.880 No, well, I'm famously, the director, George Spenton Foster, had real problems with Brian Croucher. 281 00:22:56.940 --> 00:22:58.440 The 2 of them did not get on. 282 00:22:58.500 --> 00:23:07.079 So apparently he loved Jacqueline Pierce and he loved Paul Darrow and was not keen on a lot of the rest of the cast. 283 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:13.859 And it caused major problems for Brian Croucher because he directed Weapon as well, which is Brian Cruncher's 1st story. 284 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:16.440 And so he didn't get much direction. 285 00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:22.440 He was not favoured by the director, wasn't given a lot of help to start in the role. 286 00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:27.180 And I think it knocked his confidence in the park for quite a while. 287 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:30.839 He doesn't really even have any good mutoids around. 288 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:37.440 The mutoids this week to sort of say a couple of lines and they prod someone with their finger. 289 00:23:37.500 --> 00:23:39.180 It completely blocked. 290 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:40.859 There's no way through. 291 00:23:43.500 --> 00:23:50.339 Nathan's observation back when they 1st came in that after a while the new toys just become people in hats has pretty much proved true, hasn't it? 292 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:58.440 Speaking of direction, though, there was a couple of really ropey bits, I thought when the when Veron throws the grenade down into the basement. 293 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:12.779 It just didn't, it was, it was really unclear what, what had happened at 1st because they all went down and then the gas started leaking and they just stayed down so there was no sort of like coughing or a scene of them being overcome by the gas. 294 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:16.440 So I thought, are they out of range and they're faking? 295 00:24:16.500 --> 00:24:19.740 It was just, yeah, it was just kind of a really weirdly directed. 296 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.500 Not only that, you can see her hair. 297 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:31.680 And then they cut back to another shot and it's just like person walking indistinguishable person walking downstairs so may maintain some mystery. 298 00:24:31.740 --> 00:24:34.920 But it's like you can definitely see it. 299 00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:38.819 It's like, are they, they're trying really hard to conceal who it was. 300 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:47.460 It's not like a Agatha Christie or anything, but it was just like, it's not like any kind of big reveal or mystery or who on earth could have done this or is she double crossing them? 301 00:24:47.460 --> 00:24:48.779 Because it, there's no surprise. 302 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:49.980 All the surprises taken out. 303 00:24:50.039 --> 00:25:06.599 The surprises taken out where Blake and Gan are sort of, sort of shouting what they're going to do with each other. while she sort of, when they say after they've said to her, you know, get some rest, i.e. just sleep on the floor instead of like somewhere else in that room. 304 00:25:06.660 --> 00:25:13.140 And she's obviously sort of looks up and, you know, so it's just felt like a wasted thing to... 305 00:25:13.140 --> 00:25:17.039 I think I'd just have a walk outside and get some fresh air. 306 00:25:17.099 --> 00:25:17.339 Yes. 307 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.619 Going for a walk in the danger zone. 308 00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:23.759 Kenny Loggins song. 309 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:31.319 That's the moment where Travis could have just gone in and captured Blake. 310 00:25:31.380 --> 00:25:37.140 He's forced asleep on the floor about probably a mile away from where he is. 311 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:39.960 He could have just popped over there and captured him then. 312 00:25:40.019 --> 00:25:42.720 But to escape this room. 313 00:25:42.779 --> 00:25:45.839 What we're going to do is not use the guns that we have. 314 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:54.599 Consistently, they've left us with because the plot needs us to do some shooting, but we can't, but they take away our teleport break. 315 00:25:54.779 --> 00:25:55.140 What? 316 00:25:55.259 --> 00:25:56.279 Yeah, yes. 317 00:25:56.339 --> 00:26:01.500 And so, you know, they do have their perfect one, but it's like, look, guys, this is Gan's last episode. 318 00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:07.259 So let just let him bash things up a little bit. like open doors, hold over door. 319 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:08.940 He is Hodor. 320 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.779 Yeah, in this episode, he's really become Hodor, hasn't he? 321 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.960 I know we get plenty of Gang jeopardy. 322 00:26:16.019 --> 00:26:19.740 So every time there is there is something dangerous. 323 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.140 Gan's the one who is in danger. 324 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:33.839 So like we said earlier, we've got the moment where he runs off the villa, um, when they're um, running to control to the entrance through the through the danger zone or whatever it's called this week. 325 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.200 It's the security zone within the... 326 00:26:37.259 --> 00:26:39.420 Through the security site. 327 00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:41.519 So we've got a moment where it can. 328 00:26:41.579 --> 00:26:43.440 And is something going to happen again? 329 00:26:43.500 --> 00:26:53.700 And then you've got the moment where they're on the space monkey bars in the city of the Exilon sequence, which I know, we're going to come back to in a moment, Colin, for you, especially. 330 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:54.119 Okay. 331 00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:57.420 My favourite bit of like 7th... 332 00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:58.799 I just want to get out of there. 333 00:26:58.859 --> 00:27:06.539 Everyone's crossed the cross, apart from Gan, and suddenly, oh, no, the bar's broken and he's going to fall on the electric floor. 334 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:09.660 Go on, then. 335 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:11.220 What do I, what do you have for me on that? 336 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:17.579 We've got some of the very best corridor action here in this story, haven't we, Colin? 337 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:19.079 Come on, tell us all about it. 338 00:27:19.259 --> 00:27:23.039 Oh, Jesus, it's my least favourite thing in Blake 7. 339 00:27:23.099 --> 00:27:26.880 They're on a fucking A frame from PE at primary school. 340 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.539 It's just... 341 00:27:30.539 --> 00:27:32.279 What? 342 00:27:32.339 --> 00:27:36.420 Is it like a game show or something where you just, you know, you can't touch the floor. 343 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:45.779 I mean, how, how would you design a building, which is totally impenetrable in Forbidden Zone, in the security zone, with lots of wires that are radioactive and explode? 344 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:50.940 But when you get inside, you're okay just hanging onto a couple of bars which seem to be conveniently there. 345 00:27:50.940 --> 00:27:52.859 And not electrified. 346 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.640 Find some other way. get it right? 347 00:27:56.700 --> 00:28:00.839 I want to see how Jenna got Servoland to go over those monkey bars. 348 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.480 I'm jumping ahead of it. 349 00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:07.019 I think you got the high council to turn them off. 350 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.319 Oh, yeah, just a button that nobody noticed. 351 00:28:10.380 --> 00:28:12.299 They're not the brightest cookies. 352 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:26.039 But yes, and we've got our favourite Blake 7 trope back from Mission to Destiny of the same corridor filmed in the same way, but it's a different coloured light on it. 353 00:28:26.099 --> 00:28:28.559 That's just how the universe works. 354 00:28:28.980 --> 00:28:34.740 Even if they just had a couple of different camera angles to try and sell it for you. 355 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.880 But there's, it's in the same shot, but with a different lights. 356 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:52.019 Well, it's like what they, you know, when they, uh, in aliens when they're going down to sub-level 3 to find those colonists, they do actually change the numbers on the pillars and things. 357 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:59.579 So you could have just put like a 9 and then like a -10 or something just to prove that they've been down. 358 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:00.900 But we've built this. 359 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.420 We've built this ladder and we're going to fucking use. 360 00:29:03.539 --> 00:29:09.000 But they've got these great big blank walls that they could have easily stuck a big number on. 361 00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.180 Would that really have made a difference? 362 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:16.980 No, that sometimes looks a bit laboured. 363 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.259 That looks too obviously. trying too hard when they do that. 364 00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.599 Hey, let's talk about everything Kelly does in this episode. 365 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:30.059 Anyway. 366 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:38.460 She does some very good bored acting when she sat at the Liberator. 367 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:41.579 Yeah, ever since she got her job as liberator receptionist. 368 00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:43.440 She's really. 369 00:29:43.619 --> 00:29:51.240 She doesn't use a telepathy to contact them and find out where they are, which they established the other week that she can do from the liberator. 370 00:29:51.299 --> 00:29:55.319 Mark, stop thinking this through because it's not supposed to make sense. 371 00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:57.119 It's an adventure. 372 00:29:57.180 --> 00:29:57.599 That the thing. 373 00:29:57.779 --> 00:30:05.460 But yes, we are now beginning the long, long run of Jenna and Callie are relegated to the liberator. 374 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:20.400 They act like they've never teleported on an away mission before, which is really, it's just funny, because after the, after everything we've seen them go through, and I haven't quite how Terry Nation has forgotten that, but then you could argue he's setting it up for it to be a twist. 375 00:30:20.460 --> 00:30:27.900 The last thing we would have expected at the end is for genitor just teleported down and pulled a gun on server land, which anyone could have done from the beginning of the episode. 376 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.559 I appreciate if you're obsessed with the minutiae plot mechanics. 377 00:30:31.619 --> 00:30:35.160 But that wouldn't be much fun, would it? 378 00:30:35.220 --> 00:30:37.799 So, yeah, and they have their ball gown off. 379 00:30:37.859 --> 00:30:42.599 It is another example of shonky directing, though, I will concede, when there's that scene. 380 00:30:42.660 --> 00:30:48.119 I mean, it is meant to be to startle you, where Servolan suddenly looks at the opening door and says, what does she say? 381 00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:48.720 Something like that. 382 00:30:48.779 --> 00:30:49.680 Oh, it's you. 383 00:30:49.740 --> 00:30:50.640 Yeah, who were you? 384 00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:53.400 Um, because they haven't met before, I don't think. 385 00:30:53.460 --> 00:30:57.119 I think Gener is the last one to actually meet Servoland. 386 00:30:57.180 --> 00:30:58.559 I think she's seen her before about it. 387 00:30:58.619 --> 00:30:59.400 I think they've met. 388 00:30:59.460 --> 00:31:00.839 She's probably seen her vid files. 389 00:31:00.900 --> 00:31:01.680 Yeah, yeah. 390 00:31:01.740 --> 00:31:07.079 On the odd subject of teleporting, the music has gone from when they beamed out, beamed down. 391 00:31:07.140 --> 00:31:14.339 When they teleport down, from bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom. 392 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:15.779 It's like the Muppet show, isn't it? 393 00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:18.000 It's got really happy. 394 00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:26.099 And Gareth Thomas is still very assiduously insisting on doing something interesting. 395 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:28.680 Like he beams down into the middle of the woods with his foot on a rock. 396 00:31:28.740 --> 00:31:31.859 So he sort of stood proudly as if he's a statue or something. 397 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.099 He won't just be stood there on a flat bit of ground. 398 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:36.839 He's determined to make it more interesting than that. 399 00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:41.819 No, he still does a little bit of teleport wobble every time, just to show that he's down. 400 00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.279 I think they workshopped that. 401 00:31:44.339 --> 00:31:46.619 But most of the others can't be bothered after a while. 402 00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:55.440 Did you notice by, um, Villa getting his uh, David Tennant moment in with her, I don't want to go on the um, uh, to be dragged down to the surface by Avon. 403 00:31:55.500 --> 00:32:05.460 I did notice that he does knock the sophisticated key locking mechanism on the door and it kind of wobbles about a bit like it's about to fall off. 404 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:12.599 But they weren't a lot of effort in putting the Federation logo on that door to an empty room. 405 00:32:12.660 --> 00:32:21.180 Yes, but that shows you the lengths that they're prepared to go to, these evil maniacs, that it's the one door in the Federation that's got the official logo on it. 406 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:22.440 Carved into it. 407 00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:23.700 I just, as well. 408 00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:24.359 Yeah. 409 00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:25.680 I mean, that's a special door. 410 00:32:25.740 --> 00:32:29.880 And I think that is a really good moment with Dwight just bursting in there and absolutely losing it. 411 00:32:29.940 --> 00:32:31.140 Yeah. 412 00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:31.799 We've done it. 413 00:32:31.859 --> 00:32:32.460 We've done it. 414 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.259 I've done it. 415 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:34.980 Yeah. 416 00:32:34.980 --> 00:32:37.619 It's a good part of the episode. 417 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:55.799 It's like, I mean, it's a continual theme of Travis versus Blake, but it's also hubris or instinct or gambling, bad decisions has bad outcomes. you've got to take a risk if you're trying to destroy an evil federation that's completely enslaved your planet and loads of other planets. 418 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:57.539 You've got to take gamble. 419 00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.720 Otherwise, you're just not going to get anywhere, but it does have that. 420 00:33:00.779 --> 00:33:16.140 It was all for nothing type thing and it is foreshadowing something mark that will happen perhaps later, maybe, or maybe not, that, like, this empty room and, well, they, Travis does say it all got moved 30 years ago, you know, so who knows? 421 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:20.220 I've had that experience myself when trying to collect a new chair at work, actually. 422 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.500 I got sent to a place to work. 423 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:26.640 Yeah, I got sent to the place where the chairs were supposed to be and they're like, no, we've never had chairs here. 424 00:33:26.700 --> 00:33:31.319 I didn't, I fell to my knees screaming. 425 00:33:31.380 --> 00:33:32.519 Obviously. 426 00:33:32.579 --> 00:33:34.559 It was the appropriate thing to do. 427 00:33:34.619 --> 00:33:39.960 Pete has not been sitting down for over 7 years now. on an old chair. 428 00:33:40.019 --> 00:33:40.500 That the problem. 429 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.180 We've got site to site. 430 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:43.200 Teleport all of a sudden. 431 00:33:43.259 --> 00:33:44.039 That was a twist. 432 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:44.880 What, in your office? 433 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:50.759 I wanted the paperwork is a complete... 434 00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:51.779 Red tape. 435 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:53.279 Someone needs to sort this world out. 436 00:33:53.339 --> 00:33:55.980 But yeah, they can do site to site teleport. 437 00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:57.059 That suddenly struck me watching this episode. 438 00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:58.619 I don't know. that's a new thing. 439 00:33:58.680 --> 00:33:59.279 I think. 440 00:33:59.940 --> 00:34:07.019 I wonder if Aurak's done that because other than that, yeah, Aurak does it even less than Callie in this episode by virtue of not being in it, doesn't he? 441 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:14.519 But apart from being there at the start, being quoted by Blake at the start and say, oh, yeah, he checked it all out and all access, it's all real. 442 00:34:14.579 --> 00:34:15.539 So let's let's go die. 443 00:34:15.659 --> 00:34:17.280 Not that clever, is he? 444 00:34:17.340 --> 00:34:17.820 No. 445 00:34:17.820 --> 00:34:24.420 He didn't find the secret files, which revealed it been moved 40 years ago. 446 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.880 Now, who actually knows within the Federation that this is all a scam. 447 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.980 Servolan and Travis clearly do, although it's possible they didn't know before they got there, but I suspect they did. 448 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:39.000 But maybe it's one of those things where like they've only written, it's only like written on post-it notes. 449 00:34:39.059 --> 00:34:40.980 No one's typed the truth into a computer anywhere. 450 00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:42.840 So that way, all right, I can't get at it. 451 00:34:42.900 --> 00:34:46.559 Um, so we're trying to get around the indexing of data systems. 452 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:49.199 So Mark, did you find that a shock? 453 00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:51.059 That there was nothing there? 454 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.099 Yeah, I did. 455 00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:54.659 I thought that was a good reveal. 456 00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.480 I thought they could have done with a shot showing the empty room. 457 00:34:57.539 --> 00:34:59.940 Not just their reaction to it. 458 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.139 I felt like that was slightly odd that we didn't get to see what they could see. 459 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.320 But I suppose it follows. 460 00:35:07.380 --> 00:35:12.840 Yeah, that would be really, yeah, that would really be... 461 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.119 A bunch of people smoking and looking at them, yeah. 462 00:35:15.659 --> 00:35:18.119 Talk ticking towards 10 p.m. 463 00:35:18.179 --> 00:35:26.159 But I suppose it was good that you, it just stayed entirely on their faces as, as, Blake realised and then and then you heard Travis's voice as well. 464 00:35:26.219 --> 00:35:27.239 Yeah. 465 00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:32.159 It does take him a long time to realise after he's walked into this room and gone, I've done it. 466 00:35:32.219 --> 00:35:32.760 We've done it. 467 00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:33.420 I've done it. 468 00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:33.960 We've done it. 469 00:35:34.019 --> 00:35:36.780 It's like, you did have your eyes open when you were saying that. 470 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:45.300 I think we've seen plenty of examples of leaders refusing to accept the evidence of their own eyes in recent times. 471 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.280 Because, because obsession. 472 00:35:47.340 --> 00:36:06.480 I think, I don't know if I'm going over the top because it's Terran Ocean script, but it has, does got that theme of obsessions going all the way through it, like, um, with uh, with Servoland, I'm sort of obsessed with them wanting revenge on, on Kasabi, and Blake being obsessed with the idea that this one fell swoop will, uh, will destroy the, the federation. 473 00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:10.380 It's like they're all, and Travis obsessed with Blake and so forth. 474 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:16.500 The theme of gambling that you mentioned just before as well, because Travis has a line where it says about the look has changed. 475 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:33.659 It's my turn now as well, which I think it's felt a little bit sort of superstitious. for his character where he seemed quite kind of, just practical and down the line up until then, but I suppose it makes him more of a mirror of Blake, doesn't it, if it's about sort of gambling and odds and that kind of thing. 476 00:36:33.780 --> 00:36:40.199 And of course, Gan is the one person who is quite keen for them to crook to pull out of this whole thing once the odds are going against them. 477 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.000 And Blake's having none of it. 478 00:36:45.059 --> 00:36:50.940 Yes, well, I suppose now is the time, really, to talk about Gan. 479 00:36:50.940 --> 00:36:53.460 And what happens to Gan? 480 00:36:53.519 --> 00:37:03.840 I can remember watching this episode for the 1st time and being absolutely shocked because I had no idea what was going on in Blake 7 when I 1st saw this episode. 481 00:37:03.900 --> 00:37:09.179 So, because I saw 4 random episodes of series B of Blake 7. 482 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:14.639 A long many years after I saw series D on the BBC. 483 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:22.079 So, C Blake 7, A with Blake, was really, really bizarre and beat all this crew. 484 00:37:22.139 --> 00:37:23.460 I had no idea what was coming. 485 00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:26.699 And suddenly, the roof is falling in. 486 00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:30.659 We've had sorry, we've had the most magnificent slap. 487 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:41.340 Crevice has thrown his strontium grenade, which is too powerful to bring the roof in, and it literally does bring the roof in and down on Gan. 488 00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:43.079 Gan, but not forgotten. 489 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.559 I'm sorry, Mark. 490 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:54.000 But yeah, they're all trying to get through that door. 491 00:37:54.059 --> 00:38:02.219 And if Gan just got out of everyone's way, they would have all made it through in plenty of time, but he has to say, no, I'll hold the door. like, we're fine. 492 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:02.940 We're getting through it. 493 00:38:03.059 --> 00:38:14.820 Um, but yeah, he gets his like, and that, that lovely moment as he, um, as he's quietly dying on the floor and Blake lifts him up for a 2 shot so that his face is in, is in, is in shot and we get to see him breathing his last. 494 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:15.780 It's very moving. 495 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.039 And it was a surprise. 496 00:38:17.099 --> 00:38:19.920 I kind of, I remember when I 1st watched it, similar to you, I think. 497 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:24.059 I, you know, as a kid, I only remembered series D mainly, maybe bits of the one before. 498 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:27.480 So I didn't know who Gan was when I came to them on video. 499 00:38:27.539 --> 00:38:31.739 And it was more of a surprise that he was still in it, to be honest. 500 00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:36.179 No, we know you're like David Jackson on gender Pete. 501 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:47.280 It's not an agenda. pure ignorance on my part and I still have nightmares about the time I said who the hell is David Jackson when he was stood behind me for anyone who didn't. 502 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.099 He'd still know. 503 00:38:51.780 --> 00:38:54.059 Where no Gan has gone before. 504 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:56.519 Yeah, do we think it's a good... 505 00:38:56.579 --> 00:38:59.280 I think it's moving, despite being somewhat clumsily edited. 506 00:38:59.340 --> 00:39:01.260 I don't think it's moving. 507 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:03.300 I don't think it's particularly shocking. 508 00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:05.340 I think it's quite surprising. 509 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:06.960 I think it's done reasonably well. 510 00:39:07.019 --> 00:39:17.159 I think they do a bit to sort of try and beef up Gan's usefulness in the episode, in a sense, by sort of bashing doors down and holding doors open, which we've talked about. 511 00:39:17.219 --> 00:39:24.719 But it just sort of reinforces the fact that he hasn't got too much to do normally, although he does come out with some good stuff occasionally. 512 00:39:24.780 --> 00:39:26.760 Like, you know, he does challenge Blake on this. 513 00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:29.699 He's challenged him a couple of weeks before. 514 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:41.400 So I think it's, I think it's kind of there, but it's to reinforce the fact that it was all a complete waste of time and a mistake and it was all based on Blake's sort of instinct to do something. 515 00:39:41.460 --> 00:39:48.179 But he doesn't even have dying words about his woman or Blake, Blake doesn't even close his eyelids. 516 00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:49.139 Do you notice that? 517 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:51.780 It's normal. you know, there's people that sort of could do that. 518 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.860 Yeah, I guess that's that must be deliberate that they don't, you know, there must be a choice. 519 00:39:55.860 --> 00:39:57.300 Let's not do that thing that they always do. 520 00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:57.900 I don't think it is. 521 00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:59.400 I think it's my direction again. 522 00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:06.119 Oh, I think it's I think that's Blake being just being too stunned to do anything like that. 523 00:40:06.179 --> 00:40:06.659 Right. 524 00:40:06.659 --> 00:40:10.980 Just he just wanders off to, you know, goes over to degenerate and says, he's dead. 525 00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:11.579 He's dead. 526 00:40:12.539 --> 00:40:17.340 Yeah, he doesn't dress that up nicely for the rest of the crew, does he? 527 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:18.719 I'm really sorry guys. 528 00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:24.420 I'm really sorry But that climbing frame he was on earlier. broke again. 529 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.159 So Mark, as a 1st time viewer, was that a surprise for you? 530 00:40:29.219 --> 00:40:31.139 Yeah, a completed prize. 531 00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:34.619 I didn't feel like it was it was telegraphed in any way. 532 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:43.320 I think the 2nd time I was watching it, I sort of picked up a few bits, but I didn't think that I didn't expect any of them to die really, particularly mid-series. 533 00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:47.579 I think I probably thought things like that would be in a series finale. 534 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.159 Maybe they'd be contracted for the full series or something. 535 00:40:50.219 --> 00:40:53.400 But yeah, I really liked the bits that he had with Veron. 536 00:40:53.460 --> 00:41:04.500 I thought they brought out a side of him that you don't see that often with Gan, where Blake wasn't particularly sensitive with her, you know, given that a much, your mum's just died and I think she, well, they think her mum's dead. 537 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.239 She doesn't know her mum's dead, but she is. 538 00:41:06.300 --> 00:41:14.039 But again, he's very, very, you know, kind of sensitive with her and caring towards her, which was a nice kind of gentle giant side that you see with her. 539 00:41:14.099 --> 00:41:20.699 Blake was not particularly interested in her other than to get information out of her about Kasabi and stuff. 540 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:21.239 So that was good. 541 00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:24.599 And like you say, and then we got to see his strength as well in breaking the door down. 542 00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:26.579 So it was he had a few good scenes. 543 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:33.659 Yeah, he didn't make anyone any drinks this week, so it wasn't quite his greatest hits because he obviously takes drinks around on the hole. 544 00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:41.099 But yeah, you get to sort of reminding that he's a good sort and is it only the limiter in his brain that's making him be nice to people and do all of that stuff. 545 00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:45.599 And inside, he is still a deranged killer trying to get out. 546 00:41:45.659 --> 00:41:46.980 Now we'll never know. 547 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:55.199 Maybe a good ending for him would be when if they were sort of trapped and the mutoids have gone from and they could have pulled the limiter out and he could have gone berserk. 548 00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:00.659 While they left, he could have been, you know, holding them off and, you know, knowing that it was going to blow up anyway. 549 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.420 That is much... 550 00:42:03.539 --> 00:42:06.780 Quick, right, back to 1979. 551 00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:08.099 We'll sort this out. 552 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.480 They'd be that sadistic, knowing that it's all going to come to an end or something. 553 00:42:12.539 --> 00:42:15.480 You'd go, come on, should we just pull his plug? 554 00:42:15.539 --> 00:42:17.460 Well, he could have done it to himself, I suppose. 555 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.219 That would have been a bit more of a noble self-sacrifice, wouldn't it? 556 00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:33.179 But yeah, and it's going back to what you said, Colin, it is unusual, isn't it, to have a, if you're going to kill a main character to do it in a sort of mid-season episode rather than as a finale thing, but I suppose it does get people talking and it's to give it a mid-series boost, I suppose. 557 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:35.280 Contermination did that in survivors quite a lot. 558 00:42:35.340 --> 00:42:39.900 They're getting bumped off left, right, and centre. as you go through that a couple of years earlier. 559 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:41.880 So I suppose he's uh, He bringing it back. 560 00:42:41.940 --> 00:42:42.780 And that's actually the right way. 561 00:42:42.780 --> 00:42:44.639 It is more exciting. 562 00:42:44.699 --> 00:42:47.340 I read that Terry Nation, I don't know if this is just a fan rumour. 563 00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.119 I don't know if any of you know better that I read somewhere that Terry Nation actually wanted to get rid of Villa. 564 00:42:51.179 --> 00:42:53.699 He thought that Villa didn't have enough interesting stuff to do. 565 00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:54.119 Is that true? 566 00:42:54.179 --> 00:42:55.199 that's absolutely true. 567 00:42:55.260 --> 00:42:59.099 He went to David Maloney and said, well, the character I don't like is Villa. 568 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.099 Let's kill him, and David Maloney said, absolutely not. 569 00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.900 The BBC has done audience research and Villa is really popular with the audience. 570 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.059 So we are not killing Villa. 571 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:10.800 And think, hang on. 572 00:43:10.860 --> 00:43:14.820 Villa, Gan, Villa, Gan. 573 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:16.260 Who are you going to choose? 574 00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.480 Yeah, it seems really bizarre. 575 00:43:18.539 --> 00:43:27.539 Well, I think Villa only starts getting really good again after they left room for him, in a sense, because he'd had fuck all to do these last few episodes. 576 00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:31.920 So the comedy comes back, the lines come back and I think it comes back. 577 00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:40.559 You've got more time, if Blake's 7, for the moment, are Aurak plus N plus the rest, there's more space for him. 578 00:43:40.619 --> 00:43:46.019 There's a nice bit at the end where they zoom in on Gan's space chair and it's empty. 579 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:47.099 Yeah, I like that. 580 00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.079 It's quite understated. 581 00:43:49.260 --> 00:44:01.320 I quite like the depth because it's so pointless, but it shows how much Blake has really not project managed to go back to our previous theme from last series. 582 00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:06.420 Project managed his his adventures, again, because he's been so self-obsessed. 583 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:13.980 He's not thought of the details and it ends up in the death of one of his crew and he's going to have to sort himself out after this. 584 00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:20.460 There's something quite tragic about Gan's last words or I think those last words when he said, I'm not worth dying for as well. 585 00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:24.539 That's, um, I've written, or are you next to my name? 586 00:44:26.099 --> 00:44:32.880 And just compare and contrast a few moments later, we get where Servolan and Travis realise that they're buried in together. 587 00:44:32.940 --> 00:44:38.400 And I just love that scene where my life was at risk and you hesitated. 588 00:44:38.460 --> 00:44:40.739 And then I'll bury you. 589 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.340 And we've got this far. 590 00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:49.260 Podcast member James will be spitting tax that we've got this far without mentioning her dragonfly dress. 591 00:44:49.260 --> 00:44:49.739 Oh, my God. 592 00:44:49.739 --> 00:44:52.559 That amazing metal. is so rude. 593 00:44:52.619 --> 00:44:55.500 If you look, where the hands are gripping. 594 00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.420 And where the tail is pointing. 595 00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:58.980 Oh my god. 596 00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.440 June Hudson was having a laugh that day. 597 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.179 I've seen that dress in the flesh. 598 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.500 It's still it's still around. 599 00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:08.940 In whose flesh? 600 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:10.500 How are you wearing that, friend? 601 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:11.820 I couldn't fit into that. 602 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:17.099 What really struck me looking at it was just how thin Jacqueline Pierce was. 603 00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:19.199 Her waist was tidy. 604 00:45:19.260 --> 00:45:23.219 She was a tiny woman, but you wouldn't think it on TV at all. 605 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.320 It's the presence she got presents. 606 00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:31.079 I have a question for Mark here. 607 00:45:31.139 --> 00:45:33.300 As a 1st time viewer of Blake 7. 608 00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.380 How do you think Dan's death will affect where we go next? 609 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:41.039 Do you feel this will have repercussions sort of going forward? 610 00:45:41.219 --> 00:45:43.860 Yeah, I'm interested in the effect. 611 00:45:43.920 --> 00:46:14.219 Obviously, it has on Blake, whether it rains in that reckless side, that sort of gambling with the lives of his crew and himself to strike at the Federation, and also, I suppose, how the crew now respond to him, you know, whether I suppose they'll switch allegiance to Avon a little bit or be less inclined to go along with these with his missions, especially when he just springs, them on them at the last minute and says, oh, we've arrived at this place and we're going to go and do this without really consulting them 1st and talking it through. 612 00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:18.480 So, yeah, I'm interested to see where it goes. 613 00:46:18.539 --> 00:46:25.500 You'd have to have a heart of glass not to be moved by this, which is exactly what Debbie Harry had at number one in the UK hip parade that week. 614 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:26.760 Well, Gumpy. 615 00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:27.659 Well, hang on. 616 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:29.400 That was that was a song that was number one when I was born. 617 00:46:29.460 --> 00:46:31.860 Oh my god, this is your Blake's birth episode. 618 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:33.840 Yeah, it must be, yeah. 619 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.440 Well, depending depending on how long that was at number one. 620 00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:38.340 I mean, it might have been that. 621 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:46.619 It had a a song that entered the UK chart that week at number 47 and had a long way to get it to number one was unfittingly. 622 00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:47.519 I will survive. 623 00:46:47.579 --> 00:46:49.860 I suddenly scammed. 624 00:46:54.179 --> 00:46:57.960 Overall, how do you feel about pressure point? 625 00:46:58.019 --> 00:46:59.880 So Colin will go with you first. 626 00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:01.019 I like it. 627 00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:15.179 I think it's, I think it's really good, but it's probably squeezing a bit too much out of the Project Avalon dual model of Travis and Serverland sort of scheming or something in a room, Blake and Avon arguing, them going out to the planet. 628 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.719 It's to the point where, you know, God, we've done that so many times now. 629 00:47:18.780 --> 00:47:21.719 But I think it, you know, it has lots of different things. 630 00:47:21.780 --> 00:47:26.639 It has, I enjoy all the explosions in the in the, the grassy field of death. 631 00:47:26.699 --> 00:47:29.340 And it moves pretty fast. 632 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.119 I think the direction could be a little bit better, like the way the dialogue's delivered. 633 00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.179 I think Jacqueline Pierce sort of holds it up, kind of gets nothing to do. 634 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:37.500 Villa gets nothing to do. 635 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.659 Jenna gets very little to do. 636 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:43.500 It's um, not particularly balanced, but it's good. enjoy it. 637 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:44.880 What about you, Pete? 638 00:47:44.940 --> 00:47:50.039 Yeah, I think, I mean, I take Tomlin's point about it being it's very much a... 639 00:47:50.099 --> 00:47:54.659 Well, you could spin it as a saying, it's a quintessential episode of the Terry Nation variety that we've had so far. 640 00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.460 It's teronation hitting a lot of the things that he's already worked out for this, but I think it does come together generally. 641 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:01.139 Well, I like all the cast. 642 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.340 We haven't talked about Yolanda Palfrey, Janet from Terror of the Vervoids. 643 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.980 But once again, is there killing everyone? 644 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.340 Yes, just like a terror of the world. 645 00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:16.019 She's a traitor and that's exactly and poison gas was probably involved in that too. 646 00:48:16.139 --> 00:48:19.980 I think, Colin, were you less impressed than me, but from something you said earlier. 647 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.039 Wait, what did Janet do with the poison gas? 648 00:48:23.579 --> 00:48:26.159 Oh, it's just a popular fan theory that actually... 649 00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:32.880 Oh, the voids has an unrival narrator, and actually it was Janet, the hostess who murdered everybody, not the vervoids. doesn't really hold up. 650 00:48:32.940 --> 00:48:34.980 We need to put it under too much scrutiny. 651 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:35.880 Okay good. 652 00:48:36.539 --> 00:48:43.980 No, yeah, no, she's kind of, I mean, what is it, 7 years difference or something like that? 653 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.179 Yeah, 7 years later. 654 00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:46.860 I think she'd been a child starter. 655 00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:48.480 She had been in lots of things when she was really young. 656 00:48:48.539 --> 00:48:51.780 She's playing much younger than she actually is isn't she? 657 00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.460 Yeah, but she's been being children. 658 00:48:53.460 --> 00:48:55.559 Sort of... quite breathlessly. 659 00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:01.860 Sort of talk when she's very upset and more... 660 00:49:01.860 --> 00:49:04.380 She's much better in verboids, I think. 661 00:49:04.380 --> 00:49:06.840 Sadly, very sadly, no longer with us. 662 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.360 Yes, she died very young. a real shame. 663 00:49:09.420 --> 00:49:13.920 Yeah, and she had loads of, you know, she was doing she was doing really, really well. 664 00:49:13.980 --> 00:49:16.199 You know, she would have gone on to do lots more things, I'm sure. 665 00:49:16.260 --> 00:49:22.739 Yeah, she was someone who made the sort of fairly rare career jump from being a child actress to being an adult one. 666 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.619 But yeah, so anyway, in summary, yeah, I really like this episode. 667 00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:26.460 I think it's fun. 668 00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:27.539 Well, thank you, Pete. 669 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:29.760 How about you, mom? 670 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:32.820 Yeah, I really enjoyed it as well. 671 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.880 So far, I'm enjoying the 2nd series more than the 1st series. 672 00:49:35.940 --> 00:49:40.139 I think the stories are a bit a bit better, a bit less repetitive. 673 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.239 There just seems a bit more substance to them. 674 00:49:42.300 --> 00:49:51.059 And yeah, the big shock of Gandhi and I think adds weight to it makes it feels like the stakes, that it's not just sort of scrape of the week and they all escape. 675 00:49:51.119 --> 00:50:02.940 And I suppose the other thing I didn't mention before about the effects of this. whether a new character will be introduced to bring the number back up to 7 as it sort of is, if you include the computers. 676 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.619 And whether Blake counts. 677 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:08.099 I remember, is Blake one of Blake 7 or is it Blake plus? 678 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:09.659 is it Blake 7 brackets inclusive? 679 00:50:10.500 --> 00:50:12.659 They really don't specify. 680 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:13.619 Holy shit. 681 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:14.039 Yeah. 682 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.679 All these people belong to Blake. 683 00:50:16.739 --> 00:50:18.059 Well, there's no apostrophe. 684 00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:18.780 So they don't. 685 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:23.460 Is Danny Ocean included in Ocean's Eleven? 686 00:50:23.940 --> 00:50:26.460 But no, I really enjoyed it, yeah. 687 00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:27.840 I mean, I agree. 688 00:50:27.900 --> 00:50:40.860 Some of the plotting is a bit clumsy in this one, but it's so easy just to get swept along with it because it moves at a fair enough rate that you don't think about it the 1st 6 or 7 times you watch it. 689 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:42.179 However many it's been. 690 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:50.219 The twist of the empty room is really brilliant and scans death being pointless after that. 691 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:55.440 The last sort of 10 minutes are so superb that it's really brilliant. 692 00:50:55.500 --> 00:50:59.280 Servolan is now top dog in the villain stakes. 693 00:50:59.340 --> 00:51:00.539 This is her show. 694 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.739 Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see where this leads us to. 695 00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.940 Yeah, yeah, you can tell that things are definitely going to change among the dynamic of the crew. 696 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:17.820 This is not a, now we've just got one less cast member and it's going to carry on, I assume and hope, but they're going to have real questions about Blake's leadership now. which isn't a thing that will definitely get you back next week. 697 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.599 Yes, and as we said, what will happen to Blake? 698 00:51:21.659 --> 00:51:23.880 I guess he's going to feel like he's on trial somewhere. 699 00:51:23.940 --> 00:51:26.460 I think that might be where we end up. 700 00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:37.500 Thank you very much for joining us for Pressure Point. 701 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:44.340 We'll be back next week when, as Pete says, there'll be lots and lots and lots of trials. 702 00:51:44.579 --> 00:51:48.420 So, thank you very much for listening and goodbye. 703 00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:49.739 Goodbye.